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7/10
Not much Paradise to see here - plenty of Faith, though...
johnnyboyz8 February 2019
It was Georges-Henri Bousquet who, in 1966, wrote about the sexual ethics of the religion of Islam, and how they differed to that of Christianity when he made, certainly by today's standards, the controversial point that Islamic marriage has very little to do with love; companionship or association: there is a sense that a woman is a man's property, and that he is, in actual fact, able to own five of them at once if he wishes. In the same work, entitled "The Sexual Ethics of Islam", he quotes a Muslim jurist who points out that when a man marries a woman in Islam, he "acquires" her genitals "...with the express purpose of enjoying" them.

I read much of this, and more, years ago in Ibn Warraq's 1995 book "Why I am not a Muslim", where Bousquet is often cited and it lingered in my mind as Ulrich Seidl's film "Paradise: Faith" unfolded before me in the unnerving, even ghastly, fashion that it did. If you see it, you'll know why: it has rather a lot to do with sex; sexuality; relationships; love and how people behave towards one another in respect of these things. Quite a lot of religion is tossed in too.

Its pitch is actually fairly straightforward: a devout Roman Catholic woman and a devout Islamic man are thrust together as housemates in an affluent Austrian neighbourhood. They share a history, in that they were once married, but not much else beyond this - despite being confined to a wheelchair, the Muslim seems to want to rekindle what they had, but she is dead-set on the opposite. Sparks fly. You half expect the crockery to fly with it.

It is to Seidl's credit that he sustains the atmosphere that he does in the film. Putting it into words is difficult - it isn't sexual tension, per se; it's a combination of hatred, pity, fear and the vulnerability that the Catholic of the piece clearly exudes. She is Anna (Maria Hofstätter), middle-aged; a little overweight and certainly unattractive who works as a nurse scanning people for cancer signs. Her time away from work is quite different. Heavily into religion, she crawls around her house on her knees to induce injury and even resorts to self-flagellation before a crucifix on the wall in what is behaviour associated with sharing in Christ's pain in knowing he died for you. The exasperating edit Seidl employs early on, from Anna's self-harm at home to state-of-the-art equipment at hospital, is his introducing a sense of the binary to proceedings.

Anna is granted a holiday from work, so takes her downtime to venture out into the wider ethos of Austrian society - spreading her Catholic message, often to migrant communities, in what we learn is an attempt to coerce the new arrivals into Catholicism in order to keep the country on the right religious tract. In an expert move, Seidl releases the tension when an elderly unmarried couple invite her into their living room, and we observe what looks like an actual argument between preacher and atheist on sin. The couple look older than Anna - why couldn't she convince them? Should they not be more conservative in their old age? It demonstrates just how far Austria is from being Catholic again.

Out of nowhere, an Arab by the name of Nabil (Nabil Saleh) enters her life - he has his own key to the house and we learn they were married, although an accident has since forced him to the confines of a wheelchair. At dinner that very night, they are shot in profile directly opposite one another so inferring there is still a degree of conflict between them. We slowly realise he is a slob; a misogynist and will test Anna's Catholicism to its zenith - central to the arc of their relationship is whether she can, alá the Catholic message, 'forgive' him when it is remarked to her that God will forgive him for following the wrong religion.

The film addresses a variety of different issues, among them human sexuality and religion's role in modern society, but it does so within the confines of a 113 minute film which depicts a telling piece of watchable drama, all the while borrowing an aesthetic more synonymous with Michael Haneke and not feeling like an essay. In Nabil, the film seems to want to epitomise the dangers of Austria's Islamification - it appears initially harmless, merely a new arrival which believes in God but does so a little differently, as demonstrated in Nabil's agreeing with Anna's wall-mounted charts depicting what it 'virtuous' (rising early, praying etc.).

Gradually, we learn it packs a punch - it doesn't take to being challenged; ultimately, it hates the host culture/religion; despite being a guest, it isn't afraid of challenging the host, as Nabil demonstrates when he casually pops Anna's Catholic iconography off her walls. Forgetting Austria is not governed by the Sharia, and remembering Bousquet, he seems to think he has the right to fall back into a sexual relationship with Anna because, of course, women are beneath him in his religion.

In one of the more extraordinary sequences, harrowing and upsetting though it is, Nabil and Anna wrestle on the floor when the situation snaps, but the overwhelming feeling once it's past and the film has ended is just how pathetic they both looked. We conclude that the film is depicting two people detached from the present - their personal outlooks are irrelevant to wider society, who think nothing of them because incredible technological advances are saving lives in the hospitals; youngsters have sex in public parks after dark and divorce is rife. Society is indifferent to the pair of them, yet paradoxically Islam is incredibly promiscuous and shares common-ground with Catholicism. Anna's devotion to Christ eventually sees her sexually attracted to him, while Nabil resorts to drinking beer. Is it any wonder nobody can get along if they don't yet even know themselves?
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7/10
Life Without Love
paul2001sw-131 December 2015
It's hard to know what to make of Ulrich Siedl's 'Paradise' trilogy, a series of films about the lives of unhappy middle-aged women. 'Faith' tells the story of someone dementedly committed to spreading the love of Jesus, in a life tragically devoid of any love from other humans. Her unexplained marriage to a paralysed, Muslim man is the source of especial unhappiness, although she seeks out misery apparently believing this is what God wants of her. It's grim, and believable, but the purpose of the first two films, with their pathetic yet unsympathetic protagonists and complete lack of redemption narrative, remains unclear. Somehow I'm not expecting a song-and-dance in film three either.
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8/10
The best of the trilogy
Horst_In_Translation5 December 2015
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This is "Glaube" or "Faith", the second chapter from Ulrich Seidl's "Paradise" trilogy. The movie runs for slightly under 110 minutes and features Maria Hofstätter as Anna Maria in basically every scene from start to finish. It is nice to see she won an Austrian Film award for her performance. Ver deserving. This movie runs for almost 110 minutes and it is a steady progress. It actually starts as a really light film. It had a nice comedic touch when we see the protagonist bring Virgin Mary to all these households. The reactions from the people and the way Anna Maria reacts to them felt truly authentic. Well-written film. There is that long scene at the hoarder's apartment, which is really hilarious, but it is also the ending of the film in terms of comedy. Everything afterward is drama and some will shake you to the bones, especially the last 10 minutes.

I am always a bit careful with the term "masterpiece", but I think in terms of films centered around the difficult topic of religion, this one here gets everything right. It does not try to be monumental in the grand scheme of things, but tells us the story of one particular person, for whom religion is the most important aspect in life. There is certainly a lot to discuss about this one here. Was Anna Maria fulfilled with her life? Was she maybe even happy? It seems like she had no real human relationships with anybody else other than her church group. However, does she really need other relationships if she has found God?

This was the second time already that I watched this film, saw it the first time when it hit theaters, and I must say it has even gotten better on rewatch. It was smart from Seidl to include these sequences in which she goes out with Radio Maria and get the little statue out to the people. A much needed form of comic relief that still does not take away anything from this films seriousness, especially with the last couple scenes. Gonna check out "Hope", the last chapter soon, check out my review for that one as well if you want. I liked that one as well the first time I saw it, so I hope I will enjoy it as much again. But more importantly, if you like films about religion, do not miss out on that excellent effort here. Highly recommended. The only minor criticism I have is the poster from this film here. It looks a bit like forbidden fruit and that is totally not what this film is about. Other than that, a sublime watch.
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10/10
Thought provoking film about our own halfway lost religious beliefs, packaged in a compelling performance by the main characters who we can follow very close-by
JvH4827 June 2013
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I saw this film as part of the Rotterdam film festival 2013. After having seen Paradise: Love in the Ghent film festival 2012, I was of course prepared for having to watch not-so-easy digestible scenes. In other words, some scenes you wished you were somewhere else, but still you feel the need to observe what's going on because you won't miss a tiny thread of what the film makers want to get across. Maybe I was prepared too much, surprisingly finding myself less bothered in my spectator role than with predecessor Paradise: Love. Especially the masturbation scene with a crucifix for which we were warned by several professional reviewers, progressed nicely under the blankets and proved suggestive rather than shown in the flesh.

More problematic for me to watch were her house calls while attempting to convert people to the catholic faith, or at least to interest them for Saint Mary. She carries a nearly life-size statue of Saint Mary along during her missionary journey. Cold calling as she practices is unsympathetic by definition. It may come to no surprise that she meets resistance with most of the people, particularly in the poor neighborhoods with many immigrants she has chosen as her target. But it perfectly fits in her belief that all of Austria should become catholic, as propagated by a small ultra-religious group that counts her as a devoted member. We see a few scenes with group meetings, but these insights were kept relatively short, confined to relevant background information, no more no less.

The film starts on the last working day before her holiday. We see her making preparations for the self-assigned task of spreading her belief. This is apparently her main occupation during her holidays, being happy that she now has all day for making house calls. Not an encouraging journey, however. She has to cope with indifference at best, more often than not with skepticism and hostility, and meets loaded questions to challenge the position she advocates when visiting people (for instance) living together out of wedlock. It is not always easy to explain the rules imposed by the catholic church, and one can always ask who has the right to determine what entails a mortal sin. Yet she seems unshakable in her belief. As a bonus we see vivid discussions from time to time, on average not with either side being really right or wrong.

The story gets more and more interesting when her husband decides that it is time to reunite. Though it is not made very explicit, I assume they never formally divorced. They apparently lived apart a number of years for reasons not revealed to us. The husband is a follower of Allah, a fact that raises questions how these two got married in the first place. The husband is crippled, and totally dependent on a wheelchair. Of course, her belief considers his health situation as a sort of punishment, better said a divine retribution with a specific purpose. Her first action after his homecoming is to arrange a separate sleeping place for him, in spite of his stance that sleeping together is a matter of course when people are married. Their mutual relationship deteriorates further as the story progresses. Differences in beliefs are a core element in their disputes, in combination with her firm position to avoid all forms of sex and intimacy with her husband.

These two story lines intertwine throughout the film, both with headstrong beliefs about right and wrong as fundamental driving forces. Difficult moments for us, viewers, are for example repeated self-flagellation scenes, when she considers herself to have underperformed in her missionary activities, or when she suspects any mark of infamy however small in our eyes. All of this fully justifies the title of this film. Though religion was lost on me many years ago, even I have to admit that the situation becomes more and more interesting alongside subsequent developments.

All in all, a compelling performance of the main characters, especially Anna Maria who we are allowed to follow from close-by. The extent of religious belief we see is very extreme. We may recognize it from books and movies, mostly set in times long past or in areas far away. Such a strong and persistent devotion is rarely seen in western countries, but I can very well imagine that more or less underground movements like this exist even here. Fanatics are not time bound, and exist within many religions. We read and hear about it at present, leading to breakups between people, or at worst even physical abuse and destructive activities. This movie lets us re-consider our own position in this, letting us think why we have dropped the religious education we previously received. Yet I have no answer to those questions. The only constructive thing I could do was giving a maximum score for the audience award when leaving the theater. Not everyone seems to agree, since it ranked far below the top: 42th (out of 176) with score 4.016 (out of 5) from 703 votes.
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8/10
Fantastic!
petarmatic2 January 2014
This film goes right in the heart of it all in Austria and for that matter in Western Europe as well. Islam is coming and Christans are afraid! That is the real truth! Struggle of Anna Maria and Nabil is a struggle of the worlds, different continents and cultures. But it has compatibility to it. Struggle between two great religions brings them together in love-hate relationship! Who will win? People in the park! They are the only the once who understand: There is no God and only thru sexual satisfaction you can achieve happiness before inevitable end!

It is also a story of foreigners coming to Austria for a better life and they do not find any! Austrians are terrified from them but can not start ovens in Aushwitz or Dachau yet. That little bit of power USA and Russia still have, prevents them from doing that.

Please try to obtain this film and watch it!
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2/10
poor, clichéd, ticked all boxes of a gritty art-house film
berndporr30 March 2013
We have a loser at the focus of the story and gets humiliated in a variety of different situations. These themselves were constructed to create the classical gritty art-house feel. It feels as if made my a film school graduate who got the assignment to create a collage of gritty situations related to faith. This resulted in a storyline which had no credibility. I'm surprised that this film has received awards at festivals. It was one of the most unoriginal films I've seen. This is not only related to the story but also to lighting and general feel. On a positive note the encounters she had with "real" people was well observed but were just three excellent short films. This film reminded me in many places of films made by Peter Mullen and British Social Realism which is repeated over and over again.
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10/10
what does too much faith lead us to ?
gangeshgnair26 March 2023
"paradise: faith" what does too much faith lead us to ?

The movie definitely has some strong imagery, just look at the first and the last scene of the movie, it clearly shows the character arc of the main character. The movie is an amazing character study. Some scenes in the movie, the way they are shot, its so raw and natural, these makes the scenes more powerful and intense. What an amazing performance by maria hofstatter and nabil saleh. After watching the two movies of the trilogy, i think ulrich seidl is a director with amazing and visually appealing story telling style. Looking forward to watcvhing more of his movies.
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3/10
I do not know if you are criticizing religions, if you are comparing or all at once
Andres-Camara9 October 2017
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It's not just a boring movie. It is a repetitive film, but all his cinema is repetitive. He does not know when the sequence has ended and continues.

The problem, for me is that the director himself does not know what he wants to tell and so it is difficult to tell.

The actors are sometimes seen acting, but there are times when you do not see what happens and so it is difficult to see how they act.

The photograph says nothing. Apart from being a cold movie, but not by the light, it is a distant movie. He does not tell us anything.

The director, lead, for my taste, without being clear what he wants to tell is difficult to do. It repeats the sequences, lengthens them, bores and only knows how to make plane sequence, although it does not count anything and although the camera this badly put, that usually is normal.

It's another film by this director, so special
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8/10
A tale of finding faith
Reno-Rangan27 December 2013
The second movie of the 'Paradise' trilogy which sets in the summer holiday. Like I said in my previous review all the three stories happen in the same timeline in different locations with different themes and people. This movie which unfolds the story of 'Faith' of a woman in her 50s. And her devotion and affection towards Christ. Be ready to to see drama on a serious subject within a few dark humorous.

Anna Maria is a nurse in a private hospital. In her summer vacation she begins to do a missionary work as spreading the religious awareness to the people of Austria. Some of her friends' support it by joining the prayer she orange in her home and sometime she goes door to door to every house in her neighborhood. As planned the expedition runs smoothly until her long gone husband return home which shook her. Her real faithful will be tested when he begins to interfere into her work.

It was quite a nice second movie of the trilogy. It mainly speaks about the honest dedication of a religious stuffs. Sometime clash between another religious showed in the movie was very much true. The director's approach in this second movie was very much artistic. But in scenes where he showed about sex hunger like outdoor orgy and masturbation were totally not understandable. You know, unlike the first movie 'Paradise: Love' I thought it will be exactly opposite and a pure spiritual content story. The director had a different opinion in his mind and mixed with multiple sub-contents. In the end, the ends of both the movies were not much distinct but the audience will be divided especially adult and spiritual theme fans.

7.5/10
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4/10
too much cliché
rasketeer30 May 2019
I would have preferred a more realistic, every days live story rather than cliché bashing. The movie tries to take advantage of the tendency of western Europe to dislike religion, espacially catholicsm, even when it lost relevance in every days live for most people already. The bad traits of faith are just as much exaggerated to make a silly and funny impression but are also soften when it comes to move forward with clichés. There is no explanation on how and why this couple came together and how the persons found together. The situations create the impression as if they just met rather than they shared parts of their lives together. The vast differences between the background of the persons would suggest either a deep bound between them or a clear separation. With the lack of any explanatiom, the couple is just used as basis to move forward with clichés. Also very typical is to compare a very rare form of practicing cahtolicism, not accepted by catholics themselves, to how open and tolerate other religions and cultures are. I liked the other two movies of the trilogie but this one was much to one sided following media stereotypes and lacking objective view on this topic. I know people personally, who would provide better stories with what they experienced on their way finding faith and beyond. Stories who could possibly come true for any of us or could happen to our friends, providing a controversal view on how faith can save lives and the costs of it.
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