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6/10
Good, until the ending.
Sleepin_Dragon9 September 2021
What a bizarre, curious movie this was, classified on Netflix as a horror, it is most definitely not a horror, I'd place it more in the thriller genre.

Production values are superb, and the acting is first rate, both James Norton and Amanda Seyfried put in first rate performances, the pair are superb.

Each scene where I saw Norton's white vest popping through the top of his jumper, I saw Sidney Chambers, British fans will of course be familiar with Granchester.

Despite the amazing acting, and the very atmospheric start, I find it hard to forgive the ending, this is a movie in the category of, how not to end a film, it sucks, it's unoriginal, and the movie deserved more.

Overall, very well acted, good story, a poor ending, it's worth a look, 6/10.
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4/10
Bell Curved on Me.
kersten-1382429 April 2021
This had SO much potential. Bummed me right out. It started slowed, built up to something that could have been great, then felt like it tripped over its own pretentiousness and fell flat on its face. Damn. Just made the whole time I watched it feel like a waste.
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5/10
What happened with the last part?
editka-7938729 April 2021
I agree with the reviewer who wrote it builds up to nothing. For the 3/4 part or so it looked more or less like a decent movie, although there was absolutely no suspense, but then?

Like they ran out of money and just ended it. Somehow. :)
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3/10
The Ending?
onexmillion30 April 2021
I'll just keep this short and sweet. Turn it off a few minutes before the ending and make your own version up. Your version will without question be better then this.
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6/10
A movie without guts and without glory
gabrilapo1 May 2021
"Things Heard & Seen" potentially could have been an unusual movie , but it turns down the expectations. Furthermore, the supernatural events in the movie are unnecessary and unoriginal. Although the actors provide us great performances, the screenplay kinda let us down. Rating: 6.
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3/10
Such a frustrating mess
Glassgrl1 May 2021
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I really wanted to like this movie - it had a decent cast and the production values looked good- but there were SO many things in this movie that went absolutely nowhere!

  • What was the point of her eating disorder? I was thinking maybe husband was going to use it against her to make her look crazy when she started catching on to his lies. Nope.


  • Why did we bother getting to know the Willis character? If her only function was to illustrate that George was a jerk and expose the affair with the scarf toward the end, that could have easily been done with a nameless throwaway character that didn't confuse the plot.


  • The boys who used to live in the house. Why were they so keen to come back? Surely they will be involved in the climax in some way. Nope.


  • Most importantly, what was the point of the house being haunted???!!!! I assumed that the conversation that Catherine had with Floyd was foreshadowing that the ghost would end up helping her against her husband in the climax. Nope. She just let Catherine die.


And then the ending comes from out of nowhere and was completely unsatisfying and pretentious. So no justice for any of the women in that house, as the real estate agent so aptly notes, and as far as anyone knows, George escaped and is living on a beach somewhere.

This movie fails as horror, fails as a thriller, and fails as a cohesive drama. I'm not sure what it is. I gave it three stars because the actors did what they could with what they were given and the production values were decent. I am curious if the book makes more sense, but I will be mad if I read it and get more of the same.
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7/10
Weak on the horror
janedoe530030 April 2021
First of all, don't expect a horror movie, this is more of a supernatural thriller with a creepy atmosphere.

I saw it on the release date, and it had already gotten pretty negative reviews. On top of that I don't expect a whole lot from Netflix movies, so I went in with very low expectations. I was pleasantly surprised.

The film is intriguing, it works on the drama and mystery level, and though I'm not easily scared, I would say that the few horror elements in the film are pretty well done. The acting is solid all around, and the direction is capable.

The thing is, and I'm guessing this is due to the fact that it's based on a book, the film tries to do too much. There are characters (Willis) and plot lines (Catherine's bulimia) that you imagine are important in the book, but fail to make the kind of impact on the film that they were clearly meant to. It's hard to go into detail without spoiling, but in short more emphasis on characters and main plot lines would have served the movie well. I have no doubt the source material is fantastic, but the movie could have done better if some of it had just been left in the book.

Which brings us to the two hour run-time, some would argue that it would have been better if it was shorter, I would argue the that the length is what makes the film (mostly) work in the end.

To sum up, a decent supernatural thriller, albeit with a bit too much going on.
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2/10
Did you know...?
geocapital1 May 2021
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The only explanation for this movie is this: There was a group of scriptwriter friends who went to a deserted forest cabin to write the perfect script. Crazy things started happening, and one by one the friends were found killed in a bizarre way around the cabin. The last one managed to survive and return back to the city. He kept his promise to finish the script with all the parts that his lost friends had written.

And so this movie (Things Heard & Seen) was made.

A haunted house, a sleepy husband, a weaving professor (inspired obviously from MIT), an ugly ghost, a fake recommendation letter, a lost ring (to rule them all), a naughty cowgirl, love at first sight, awkward dinners with strangers, the wife of Indiana Jones, blood, water, purgatory, serial killer, fishing, possessed projectors, painting. This movie has everything you ever wanted to see in a movie.

How it turned so bad, I wonder...
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7/10
Classic 70's style old school, slow burn ghost thriller.
midnitepantera30 April 2021
If you want 300mph pacing and ridiculous gore fest, then this is NOT for you.

This was a nicely done thriller with supernatural aspects and discussion of art and Heaven and Hell. Chock full of great actors you will recognize like F. Murray Abraham and Karen Allen. It's an enjoyable slow moving dark, moody and spooky movie with some last minute irony. I'm a 70's kid so I liked it reminds me of 70's movies like (1972) The Other and (1976) Burnt Offerings. If you like those 2 movies, you may very well enjoy this movie too. ;D.
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5/10
Had potential
merceris1 May 2021
I gave the first 2/3 of the movie a 5 star rating. I thought it had potential as the story unfolded, but, I have no idea why it ended up in the direction that it did. Totally took away from the movie. I gave the ending one star, for WTH?!?
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8/10
The ending explained
mcbare19 May 2021
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It seems a lot of people didn't get the ending. Maybe this will help:
  • George Claire supposedly wrote his dissertation on George Innes, a famous American landscape artist. Innes was a follower of Swedenborg, who believed (among other things) there is a connection to Heaven and Hell through nature. The movie was sprinkled with gorgeous landscape views, with dramatic lighting and brilliant colors, meant to evoke Inness' paintings.


  • Floyd's first meeting with George includes a reference to Swedenborg, and Floyd holds up his book with an Innes painting depicting a a cross in the sky, meant to be a portal to Heaven. He states he is a follower in Swedenborg's beliefs, believes in the existence of spirits who will help those in the physical world, and sees nature's connection to spiritualism in Inness' paintings.


  • Cathy and Floyd see the female spirits during the seance. They are being held back by a malevolent male spirit.


  • After George murders Floyd, the spirits confront George with his crime using George Inness' painting with the cross during the classroom slideshow. This painting is also a metaphor for Floyd's death in the water; Floyd has gone to Heaven, and has, in fact, become a re-enactment of his favorite Inness painting.


  • The female spirits of the house (seen earlier in the seance) try to help Cathy, but cannot do much in the face of a man's free will (I.e. George's decision to murder Cathy). What they can do to help is wake up Justine.


  • With Justine's threat becoming a reality, George tries to flee on the boat, however the spirits confront him again, using the topic of his supposed dissertation. But the Inness painting has changed - this time the cross is upside down, and a fiery portal is opening up under the waves. George is going to Hell (either literally or figuratively), and has now become the subject of an Inness painting that is the *reverse* of Floyd's painting.


  • The painting depicting George's hellacious fate hangs on a wall. We see through the flash of the woman's ring that it is across from the photo of the Smit family who also became the spirits in the household. The female spirits had successfully avenged Catherine, thus finally taking care of one of their own.
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7/10
Didn't need to be a ghost story
jtindahouse4 May 2021
I actually really enjoyed 'Things Heard & Seen' but as I was watching it I kept thinking to myself, why is this a ghost story? The real life characters are interesting and have more than enough depth to carry the story by themselves. The things that they do are interesting, not what's happening to them. I assume it came from a place of wanting to sell the story as a horror movie, but even then the film is very rarely scary.

The film is long for the genre coming in slightly over 2 hours. This can be a risk because if your film isn't good then it can feel extremely long and tedious to watch. Luckily 'Things Heard & Seen' is strong enough to justify it and what's more the extra length let's the story develop at a more natural pace. The film isn't afraid to get very dark at times either. There is one particularly brutal scene near the end that I wasn't expecting (even though it was cleverly foreshadowed).

If you like a ghost story then there is probably enough of that going on here to keep you interested. If you don't like ghost stories then don't be too put off by that being present here. There's more than enough other stuff going on that you can pretty much just ignore that element and enjoy the rest like I did. I had a good time with 'Things Heard & Seen' and would say it is worth your time.
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2/10
What happened?
viclouiserogers1 May 2021
I read the book in anticipation of the movie adaptation and was excited when I heard that the end had been changed for the movie. Little did I know that the book ending was actually the better of the two!

What was the point of Willis, she has a purpose in the book but just floats around in the movie.

Main guy was awful. Also the ghost effects and apperitions were like a 90's low budget tv movie. Laughable.

Come on netflix, this is a new low. Amanda Seyfried is the only redeming feature.
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1/10
Netflix - the new straight to video section
aduncan-6490229 April 2021
Lame

Most of the Netflix original movies would be in the 99c bin if it weren't picked up by Netflix

I hate that that is what Netflix has mostly become.
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7/10
Not a classic, but engaging, well acted period gothic horror
randalrauser30 April 2021
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Doesn't deserve all the poor reviews. The Swedenbogian angle was fresh though it wasn't really eerie let alone scary. Still, a pleasant two hours.
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3/10
Wish i had not seen or heard
mines-costa2 May 2021
This movie doesnt know what genre, plot or story its trying to tell. The characters are all horribly written and you will not care for any of them. The storyline is a mess and the ending feels like they just wanted to wrap up filming. To avoid.
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6/10
Could've Been Better
atractiveeyes2 May 2021
This is a good horror/mystery movie but it could've been much better. It has a beautiful gothic atmosphere but it's not scary at all so if you're expecting a creepy horror film just skip it, it's does great with respect to the mystery part though. The story is really interesting, provoking and has a great implied message but the movie fails in portraying it, the screenplay has holes and feels weak sometimes. It's also unnecessarily long and boring at certain moments. Things Heard & Seen is neither great nor bad, give it a try if you like this genre and forget about it the next day.
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4/10
Could have been much better.
blue_luver29 April 2021
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Struggling to see the point in the ghosts in the house if they aren't going to help to prevent the murder! Ending was boring and the film was 'misleading'.
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7/10
Let's explain for those not too deep thinking. ...
Markyajv1 May 2021
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The film follows a young married couple, Catherine (Oscar-nominee Amanda Seyfried) and George Clare (James Norton), who move from the city to the countryside when George accepts an art history teacher position at a small college. She's incredibly unhappy over being isolated from all of her family and friends, and her troubles are only compounded when strange occurrences start happening in their new home. All while that's taking place, dark truths about their marriage begin to come to light.

It's definitely not your average horror flick. It's much quieter and takes its time with pacing to ensure the tense atmosphere can be maintained. As such, you may miss certain details, and in the event the ending to "Things Heard & Seen" left you puzzled, allow us to illuminate the darkness.

Communing with the supernatural is something of a hobby in Chosen, New York, where the Clares move to. They know that better than anyone as a lot of strange things start happening in their new house like a nightlight flickering on and off. Catherine soon discovers that the house has a history of husbands killing their wives, and just like Chekhov's gun, that's exactly the same fate this married couple ends up in.

Catherine realizes her husband killed one of his colleagues (and attempted to murder another) after they each uncovered one of the many lies he's told. One discovers that he forged a document in order to get the professor job while another uncovers his infidelity. It all comes down to George pulling a "Shining" and bringing an ax down on his wife while she's unconscious. In a way, it's like a prophecy being fulfilled as the violent cycle continues. Vengeful spirits remain in the house who seek to damn the husbands to lives in hellfire. And when we see Catherine again, she almost looks angelic as she's convened with another one of the spirits.

She may have met an untimely end, but it would appear as though she's been saved. George, on the other hand ... not so much.

You have to get a little philosophical to understand the ending of "Things Heard & Seen." George probably isn't literally sailing into a sea of flames, but rather, it's an allegory for how he's damned himself to Hell for his sins. Try as he might to cover up his misdeeds from forging documents to killing people, he couldn't escape them forever, as evidenced when one of his victims, Justine (Rhea Seehorn), wakes up from a coma. The last we see of her, she's ready to talk to the police.

George believes the only way he can escape is by setting sail, but the camera zooms out to portray a painting that functions as a subversion of "The Valley of the Shadow of Death" from painter George Inness. He was a major proponent of the theological understandings presented by Emanuel Swedenborg, who's namedropped frequently in the movie. The original painting shows an individual walking through darkness, but at the end of the valley is an illuminated cross, symbolizing the eternal salvation of God. However, the final image of the film shows an upside-down cross surrounded by flames, showcasing how George's journey will have him suffering only to wind up in damnation.

While it certainly sounds like a philosophically heavy movie, those who worked on it behind the scenes found a way to make it tie into current events. We learn how the original husband who resided in the house thought his wife to be a heretic, so he punished her for such. Society may like to think it's progressed beyond the overly puritan views of the past, but there's still a serious problem today with men attempting to control women. We even see this throughout "Things Heard & Seen" as George frequently attempts to gaslight his wife into thinking she only believes in ghosts due to her under-eating.

Co-director Robert Pulcini spoke on this idea during an interview with Decider: "I think it's actually a very topical notion as we're seeing this kind of cultural revolt going on with, "toxic people" who have gotten away with things for so long getting their comeuppance. There's something very satisfying about this shift of who's damned actually in this story and who has the power to do that. I think there's a spiritual power, you know, feminine power in this movie that really delivers the ending."

Pulcini's co-director, Shari Springer Berman, carried on with this train of thought, explaining, "I see the final scene as a metaphor for all the women who have been abused by husbands and fathers and preachers, and teachers and all the business people and producers and all that. Maybe not in this in their lifetime, but in the metaphysical sense of the eternity, of gaining some power."

In light of the #MeToo movement and many powerful men's crimes being exposed, even decades after the fact, it looks as though the scales of justice have gotten a little closer, at least somewhat. There's still a lot of work to be done in terms of gender parity in society, but "Things Heard & Seen" suggests that the tides have begun to turn.

Mike Bedard - Looper.
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2/10
Terrible script
MsLSimon29 April 2021
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This movie doesn't know what genre it is. Is it a ghost story? Is it about a deceptive husband who is a con man like Dirty John? The latter part of the story is the better executed of the two, but at the same time it's still poorly done. Who goes boating with someone to tell them that you're going to get them fired? You're literally stuck with them in a tiny boat for hours later after giving them that bit of news.

As far as the ghost story goes, nothing scary happens 99% of this film that I would have thought had some sort of supernatural origin vs. What happens with old houses. Like other than during the seance, I would have never thought there was a ghost in my house if it were me.

So much in this film goes absolutely nowhere -- her bulimia, her affair and his jealousy of Cole, his affair. What little there is that is not uninteresting or boring is completely unoriginal and has been told way better in other films.

Nothing to see here. Watch something else.
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8/10
What can I say, I thought it was pretty good!
agilley-4097430 April 2021
I thought this was a very solid movie, much better than most that I've seen pop up on Netflix lately. I don't see where all of the low or negative reviews are coming from at all. Give it a chance. The acting was very good all around, and I felt like it had a bit of a different direction than other paranormal type films. Everyone saying this movie builds slowly and leads to nothing... yeah, I disagree. I think most people just don't have much of an attention span these days, (sometimes myself included), and it's easy to check out of something quickly. But I felt like there were no loose ends in this film, and everything concluded well for me. It held my attention the entire time. I will say that if you are looking for a horror movie, this probably isn't it. More of a drama/suspense, but very well executed. If you're into true crime, I think you'll find it interesting. Overall, definitely not a waste of a movie night in my opinion.
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A scare to distract from our horrible pandemic
JohnDeSando30 April 2021
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"Things that are in heaven are more real than things that are in the world." (Emanuel Swedenborg)

When is a horror film not a horror film? When it is about things that go wrong all day, like marriage and education, but are influenced by the past. Based on the novel All Things Cease to Appear by Elizabeth Brundage, Things Heard & Seen is a pleasant scare fest emphasizing the sins of its principal characters, present and past, and the robust life after death.

Swedenborg's philosophy (see quote above) that sees a continuation of this life into the next pervades the story, giving it surprising heft. The 18th-century mystic's influence on well-known Hudson Valley landscape painter George Inness, who showed the "reality of the unseen" connecting the "visible upon the invisible" extends the film's creepy conjunction of past, present, and location. The Puritanical motif and Dutch locale accentuate punishment for sins. Ghosts? It's set, after all, in Ichabod Crane country.

The strength in this lightly-cliched horror piece is the emphasis directors/writers Shari Springer Berman and Robert Pulcini have given to a virtuous wife/painter, inexplicably bulimic Catherine (Amanda Seyfried), who has sacrificed her art success to move to the Valley with her husband, George (James Norton). He just secured a professorial job at a small college. As a friend comments, the town called "Chosen" (typical horror telegraphing) has "rich horsey weekenders and full-time rednecks."

Almost immediately Catherine feels tremors in the house, hears voices, and puts up with bizarre electrical activity. Seems there is a history of wives being murdered well before the current 1980. (Luckily no cell phones means we will not be annoyed by calls that too easily propel plot.)

Berman and Pulcini dot the plot with hints about a current bad dude tied to the past as its instrument in the present. Not good for Catherine, whose husband George is preoccupied with his new job and pursuing pretty young co-eds. How he secured this job and keeps it is a commentary on charismatic teachers and harassment that continues to this day in the halls of academe.

The film features the shenanigans of the haunted-house's past denizens rather than over-supplying horror fans with the usual motifs and tropes, not a bad thing at all. However, as a commentary on the insidiousness of corrupt marriages and their usual outcomes, Things Heard & Seen is enjoyable. That Catherine is not immune to the downside of infidelity, potentially her own, adds another layer to the complexity of the marriage theme.

In a sense it is a low-rent Who's Afraid of Virginial Woolf, where alcohol was the devil, not some bloody ghosts from the 19th century. Yet those ghosts are at the least a contemporary manifestation of the marital disease very real today for the protagonists.

All in all, Things Heard & Seen highlights the emerging acclaim of Amanda Seyfried, lately of Oscar-nomination fame, and smart filmmakers' willingness to merge philosophy and art with standard horror entertainment. As we usher out our own pandemic horror, it's fun to be scared virtually.

(On Netflix)
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7/10
The worst thing about this movie are the reviews
casonfriseal19 May 2021
This is a far from perfect film, but the bulk of the reviews are a laughable commentary on the shallowness of the American film viewing culture. Pretty much everything said in criticism of the film is what gives it it's strength in my opinion. I'm not going to write eight paragraphs trying to convince anyone how good or bad the film is; I'll leave that to the experts. But I will say, if you're wanting a horror film, or a film that satisfies on a visceral level, or a film that "makes sense" so you don't have to think too much, by all means, move on to something else, But if you are in the mood for a well-acted, literary, poetic rendering of a classic morality tale seen through the lens of Victorian spiritualism and Swedenborg's mysticism, watch and enjoy.
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3/10
Felt absolutely robbed by this movie!!
ianliddle1 May 2021
So much potential but what a disappointment!! The movie actually had myself and my wife fairly engrossed and trying to predict what happens a next. We never would have predicted the ending!! Good grief. Reasonable enough build up but my god did we feel robbed at the end!!! Could have used all that time so much better!! Sorry Netflix. Not good!!
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3/10
The movie builds up to nothing
dashingmusic29 April 2021
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Lots of small little things happening, discussing various stuff, doing various things...multiple things happens too but in the end, it leads up to nothing.

Such and ending though? Why?!
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