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9/10
"Let's give it a go and see what the future brings."
leonardbast19106 November 2012
Warning: Spoilers
The question: is this, the season three finale of Downton Abbey, actually the season three finale, or will there be, come December 25, an episode that is the actual season finale? British television is admittedly first-rate, but British television programming has something of Lewis Carroll about it. Whatever it is, episode eight moves past the oddities of episode seven and has many of the grace notes that made season one and the Christmas episode of season two so pleasurable. If we are to have another Christmas treat, and if it includes Shirley MacLaine, and if it's as good as the last time around, then season three may end up being the best overall, so far.

Lady Rose is the only jarring note. It's rarely a good idea to introduce a new character near the end of something, but, nonetheless, here comes Rose Somebody's-Distant-Relation. Who she is, what she's doing, and where she's going is anybody's guess. Looking a bit like a demented Bo Peep, she does give us entry into the inferno (Matthew references Dante in describing it) of a Jazz Age London nightclub, complete with black trumpet player, gyrating flappers, and a man that looks vaguely like the old Prince of Wales. It's a nice bit of twenties local color, but that's all it is.

Violet's meddling in Isobel's household comes up good, albeit through a series of accidents. As it turns out, a very nice lady has answered Violet's employment ad regarding Ethel. This very nice lady happens to live near Ethel's son's grandparents, a situation fraught with possibility and anxiety. At Violet's instigation, Grandmother Blimp arrives just in time to announce that everything will work out fine (she'll deal with Grandfather Blimp, no worries). Violet is vindicated (through sheer luck), and Isobel is out a housekeeper-cook. Perhaps Mrs. Patmore can teach Mr. Molesley—since he can't play cricket or do much of anything else.

Poor Edith's editor and love interest turns out to be married to a woman locked away in a madhouse (what else). It's becoming a running joke—a good one, mind you—that any man Edith shows an interest in will be peculiar and disastrous. We still don't know why Anthony Strallan bolted from the marriage chapel—perhaps he'll make a surprise appearance in the Christmas episode, like he did last year, and reveal all. In other news of the Downton sisters, Mary and Matthew have had the plumbing fixed (quick, secret operation for Mary, no fuss) and Downton's future is that much closer to security.

Tom Branson was most articulate again, finally making Robert understand that interlopers such as himself and Matthew only want to use their particular skills to make the place a success. Of course, what finally turns the tide is Tom's reluctant agreement to play in the local cricket match, with which Robert is rather obsessed. Allen Leech is talented and handsome, and Tom's character is a pleasure—beautiful, eloquent, sensitive, oh my! Hugh Bonneville continues to bring depth to Robert, especially when he takes over the situation with Thomas. It's good to see Robert take charge of something and have it work out well. He is good with the servants, one must admit. (He's still not good with finance, mentioning as a possible investment for Downton the fraudulent scheme of the now infamous Charles Ponzi.)

Miss O'Brien's machinations come to a satisfyingly abrupt halt with the whispered mention by Mr. Bates of a certain bar of soap from season one. With that bit of intimidation he saves rival Thomas from the fate of Oscar Wilde. Several people, including Mrs. Hughes and Lord Grantham, deserve praise for the intelligent way they react to Thomas's predicament and the now-official acknowledgment of his homosexuality. There will be those who scoff at Robert's ease of understanding, but, in all fairness, it has always been the prudish middle classes that have had the most problems with sexuality, whatever its manifestation. The upper class has almost always been more flexible. Thomas's revelation to Bates, saying he envies the fact that Bates' and Anna's love is openly celebrated, will evoke feelings recognizable to anyone who has been unfairly and arbitrarily denied the right to love as nature intended them to love. It's one of the best moments in the series. Every gay man will know it acutely. The fear that writer Julian Fellowes was not handling the Thomas character with finesse disappeared completely. Nicely done, Mr. Fellowes.

We end with a quintessentially English event, the summer cricket match between village and house. The women are pale and lovely in cream-colored frocks. The men are pale and overweight (not Tom, Thomas, or Matthew, of course) in their cream-colored knit jumpers. Nothing much happens. Tea is served. Delightful.
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8/10
Uneven
Hitchcoc14 August 2020
First of all, it may be a bit unfair after watching this series for the second time (after much time has passed), but I felt that the series went down for a time when Rose appeared. She, to me, is no more than a distraction--a tiresome, entitled little snot. But we do have some good stuff here. The footmen decide to weigh in on Thomas's "transgression," and he is pushed to despair. Bates, of all people, despises O'Brien more than Thomas, so he feels he must act. I hope there is some gratitude to come. Tom and Matthew continue to look at the practical side of things for the estate, though Robert continues to feel betrayed. We also have the continuing saga of Ethel. One episode to go this season, but it looks like a tack-on.
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8/10
Scheming is like a bar of wet soap. It becomes rather slippery in the wrong hands.
mark.waltz8 February 2021
Warning: Spoilers
As season three rolls down to its conclusion, lots of new stories are brought about as established stories begin to be resolved. Thomas, having been outed in the previous episode when Jimmy woke up to find Thomas trying to kiss him, is given his walking papers with promise of a reference, later reneged when Jimmy threatens to go to the police. Of course, O'Brien is behind everything, and it's the beginning of the end for Siobhan Finneran, preparing to leave after three seasons. Ironically Finneran's looks have changed a bit, having softened her makeup (yet keeping the sideburns) and having a more flattering hair style.

Other stories are secondary with a few being wrapped up while new stories begin. Lily James joins as cousin Rose, obviously brought on by the departure of Sybil earlier in the season. She jumps instantly into the action as she disappears while visiting Lady Rosamund (her first appearance all season), creating worry for her, Edith and Matthew. Lady Mary also has a secret which she's keeping from Matthew, and Ethel considers a job near where her baby is living with its grandparents.

A drama packed episode that has some surprising liberal attitudes from certain members of the household concerning Thomas with even Carson's rather blunt opinions having a level of understanding. But it's mainly through Bates and Mrs. Hughes that Thomas is able to get some justice and finds some atonement in his confession to Bates. Surprisingly, Anna isn't at all sympathetic, but the twist with O'Brien at the end shows hope for that. Well written and plotted with a new story for Edith and her married employer being set up for season four. This episode certainly is cricket!
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Downton Abbey Episode #8
dalydj-918-2551756 November 2012
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Bates wants to get back to work while Thomas is let go because Carson does not respect his actions. Thomas is called foul while Mrs. O'Brien listen's to Thomas being fired. The Downton cricket team needs Thomas. Mrs. O'Brien is trying the cause something by getting Jimmy to complain. Mr Mosley is happy to be playing cricket with the house for the first time. Violet is getting a visitor who hates London. Mrs. O'Brien once again try's to get Jimmy to say something but he still does not really want to say something. Thomas is using the cricket to try get Robert to change his mind about some old traditions while Mary has somehow changed since her trip to London. Jimmy comes in to complain about Thomas even bringing up the police if Carson does nothing about it. Violet and Isobel meet with Rose. Thomas is upset that he will leave without a reference because he will not be able to get a job anywhere else. When Anna and Bates go to their house. While Edith is going to London Rose wants to tag along. Also Matthew wants to go as well to do business even look after Rose. Tom is going into business with the family. Mrs. Hughes finds Thomas crying outside where he tells her the whole story even though it may shock her. Mary calls Edith to get her to keep Matthew in London so she can do something that day. Hughes talks to Carson about how she does not like Jimmy but more Thomas. Thomas goes to visit Bates at his home. While organizing the cricket team Downton is down two players. In London Rose goes on some exploration calling an unknown number. Ethel is staying on to work for Isobel and she is OK with it. Edith goes to visit her publisher who seems to like his work. While painting the wall Bates talks to Anna about feeling responsible for Thomas's situation. Hughes tells Bates about Thomas. Rose is late for dinner and the man who drove her comes to the house to tell them where Rose has been in London. Rose has gone to a club and the family must come to get her. Matthew says he can help Rose out of trouble if she comes to his deal. Matthew try's to find out what is wrong with Mary but he cannot, he even sees Mary going to visit the doctor. It turns out that Mary was the one who could not have children, she even had to have an operation. When Rose and Edith get home Violet hears there is a secret she does not know. Violet tells Rose that her mother has found out about London. Prison has changed Bates as he wants to help Thomas. Robert is so angry that Matthew is undermining him by trying to change. Robert thinks he is being cast out and feels that he is not the ruler in his own house. The first visitor to the Bates household in surprise is Mrs. O'Brien. It turns out that Bates has something against O'Brien that makes her try to get Jimmy to stop with the complaint towards Thomas. Mr. Mosley is till trying to teach the younger guys how to play cricket. Tom tells Robert that he needs to listen to his family more for Downton's sake. Robert says he will think about hi offer if he plays cricket. Ethel accepts the job because she may see her son. Edith goes to her publisher to talk about him flirting with her even though he is married. He tells her his wife is in an Asylum who does not even know who he is. Everything seems good at the game with Bates even telling Anna about the bathroom soap. The new way everyone ranks in the house seems to upset everyone. The police come to the game to talk to Alfred about the complaint. Robert is able to stop Alfred from the complaint. Tom makes the decision to stay with the family when he sees everyone is getting along so well. He then asks Cora to keep the baby there while she is young.

EPISODE GRADE: B- (MVP: Hugh Bonneville)
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10/10
This show has something great that Game of Thrones will never have... Rose!
kurt78251 March 2022
This show has something great that Game of Thrones will never have... Rose!

Rose is the greatest thing to happen to this show and now things are about to get crazy. She is wonderful Alfred and his dumb voice is a goof A very spectacular episode.
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10/10
The writers of this show knows how to turn the story around
Thomas was going and then he wasn't and then he was and then he wasn't. There was the bizarre introduction of a new character who went nowhere (Rose). And we had only a tantalising sniff of Her Ladyship's soap. Too fleeting! Seasoned, jaded viewers who have stuck with this sequinned turkey of a series through burnt kidney souffles, the death throes of eclampsia and tingle-free impotence deserved more, far more, than Molesley and his sticky wicket. There was something of a literary sheen to tonight's series finale, however. Miss O'Brien was referencing Oscar Wilde. The costume department was channelling Brideshead Revisited. And there was a frenzied depiction of something that can only be described as Fifty Shades of Bates. We zoomed in on Bates several times with various soft focus, Vaseline-lens shots. See how he collapses, winded, on to the sofa! See how the drops of paint splash on to his face as he does his manly home-decorating! We had a real, gruff, Mellors line of dialogue: "You being in the room is enough to make it nice. Come here." Bates fans might have needed to be locked in the cold meat cupboard to cool down. The costumes deserve special mention in tonight's episode, especially Cora's embroidered number and the lilac colour palette. But so frequently the painstakingly recreated aesthetic of the series has only served to point up the weaknesses in the plot.

Most disappointing thing tonight? A complete absence of Isis. She would have loved the cricket! She was obviously being punished for stealing every scene last week. And the most delicious irony of all? The gentleman editor's explanation of his wife's condition. "A lunatic is not deemed the innocent or guilty party ..." And once you're involved, you're simply tied to the madness and unable to escape. Heavens. It's just like being a Downton viewer.
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7/10
Her Ladyship's Soap
jpismyname29 December 2017
Poor Thomas is sacked but is leaving with good references after ten years of service. A despicable Miss O'Brien won't let that happen. Meanwhile, we are introduced to the free-spirited, young and beautiful distant cousin, Rose Maclare, who hates London and is going to stay with the Dowager Countess for a while.

I really don't find it surprising to pity Thomas Barrow. At least we know now that he's just human, we get to see the depth of his character. Anyway, I still don't have an idea why Miss O'Brien is a horrible person. Maybe we'll know why soon, then maybe I'll "like" her too, just as how I "like" Thomas now.

Meanwhile, Lady Maclare introduces us to a world so different from a posh and beautiful Downton Abbey.

The episode ends with a cricket match.
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5/10
Awkward
mostlyharmless-307283 January 2022
Loved the introduction of Rose in this episode (love her acting and the character is refreshing) but the Thomas plotline was just written so awkwardly. The things the characters say just seem so contrived. It surprises me that this show is all written by one person because there is such inconsistency in the quality of the writing throughout.
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1/10
nothing washes
sandcrab2772 May 2020
The writers are way off base ... carson should have simply fired both footmen and barrow and given none of them references .. this is bad and terribly wrong story telling ...sarah o'brien, the countesses ladies maid has yet to be made accountable for her dastardly deeds and should be punished for her overt disgressions
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4/10
So Is Thomas A Villain or Isn't He?
TheFearmakers22 May 2022
The character of Thomas is complicated. On the one hand, right off the bat, the first episode, he's a gay man who, for himself, has no real shame in that...

On the other hand, he's a scheming, manipulating, backstabbing antagonist who didn't even really get injured "for his Queen's Service" since he, as we all know by now, faked his own injury... or at least, made it happen, on purpose... So he's not even a hero... He's basically a coward... A coward who uses people and hurts them so he can climb upward...

Suddenly, Thomas has become a kind of sympathetic puppy of the series, and that makes him far less intriguing, because every show needs a villain, and since Mrs. O'Brien turned nice already, it seems a bit of a double-loss, and, well...

It's extremely unrealistic that a group of people, no matter how progressed they might be, at this time/year would be so openly discussing Thoma's homosexuality as if the series took place in 1997... Yes, the world should have been this way all along, but, folks... it wasn't that way and wouldn't be for many decades (and no one talked about homosexuality being-or-not-being a "choice" back then, as Robert does here, which is anachronism gone completely bonkers)...

Other than that, this episode is rather dull, replete with uneventful dialogue and really goes nowhere... slowly.
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