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8/10
A crash-course in one of the strangest gigs in Hollywood
Mr-Fusion24 August 2013
Warning: Spoilers
The real treat of watching "Tales from the Script" was getting to hear from the likes of William Goldman, Frank Darabont, John Carpenter, Shane Black and Guinevere Turner. The surprise came when the lesser-knowns (to me, at least) proved equally as compelling, as they espoused on their struggles, successes, and peculiarities with their chosen craft. The stories coming from these guys were informative, attention-grabbing and thoroughly entertaining.

I'm not a screenwriter, don't live in Hollywood, and came to this with the basest casual-fan knowledge, and I have much more respect for what these guys go through in this business at the bottom of the totem pole. It's beyond surreal, and that anyone can make a living out of it is indeed impressive. And that many of them are humble enough to acknowledge the luck of their professional careers is endearing.

Fascinating stuff.

8.5/10
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8/10
Film critics and aspiring screenwriters need to see this one...
planktonrules8 July 2014
"Tales From the Script" is a documentary that probably won't excite the average viewer. However, if you have notions of one day becoming a screenwriter or you like to do film criticism, then it's a must-see picture. It is very simple in style and simply consists of a lot of screenwriters talking to the camera--telling their anecdotes, advice and experiences. Much of it is very interesting--again, at least to screenwriters and critics.

The documentary also gave me a lot to think about as well since I spend an awful lot of my time critiquing movies...and often criticizing the quality of the screenplays (this is often the worst part of a film). What I learned is that so little of what you see on screen is what was in the original script. There are many re-writes (often dozens)--and LOTS of changes insisted upon by practically everyone but the gaffers and grips! First, the producers and directors want their say--and since screenwriters are about as low on the food chain as you can get, these folks get a lot of say. Next, when the actors read through the scripts, they also have tons of suggestions--and if they are very famous and have a lot of star power, these changes WILL be made. But that's not all-- you also have committees of studio execs, junior execs and junior junior execs who also want to make changes. One of the interviewees said that in some of her films, only about 20% of what you see in the final picture was her original script!! So, I certainly will be sure to be a bit kinder--perhaps being sure to criticize the final script not the screenwriter.

In addition to learning about this process, the film also talks about how tough it is to make a living screen writing, how originality is often frowned upon and, surprisingly, how being famous for a blockbuster or receiving an Oscar does NOT make the writer necessarily that much more marketable. It's all very interesting...and very depressing for young filmmakers. But it's not all depressing--the DVD has tons of extras. Some of these are things that were edited out of the film due to time but some is great material--such as a special extra where they have specific advice for a budding screenwriter. Well worth seeing even if it is NOT especially cinematic or exciting (plus the music really is pretty cheap and awful). For the right audience, this is a brilliantly insightful and satisfying film. And, if you want to see it, it's available through Netflix or Amazon.
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8/10
Yeah, every screenwriter should watch this now.
Sergeant_Tibbs10 July 2013
Tales From The Script is an essential documentary for aspiring screenwriters. It doesn't break down how to write a script or how to tell a story but it goes over what to expect in a career in screen writing and what they value. It's a very basic doc with interviews shot on DV, but it has access to so many top class writers that I didn't think much about the production of the doc itself. It's fascinating to pick up on the common behaviour of a writer based on their attitudes. It's a doc that both confirms my fears and validates what I want out of screen writing in my life. It finishes with a story from the writer of Ghost talking about a flop he made shortly afterwards where he felt it was finally worth it because it saved the relationship between a mother and son. That's what it's all about.

8/10
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Religion
tedg2 July 2010
I've been very lucky in finding these strangely structured documentaries.

Here is a film about writing films. We luckily encounter a large number of screenwriters, some of whom I admire a great deal.

We have a quick shuffle among them, with the assembly being quite a bit more coherent and engaging than staying. This by itself is a remarkable effect. Almost all of these people are master storytellers and they are speaking about something they have examined thoroughly. Each has their own narrative they have created about who they are and how they fit into the machinery of this collaborative art. They assume that what they have honed will be fascinating to us.

But it isn't. It simply isn't. We learn that writing is hard, the business is brutal. You and your art get no respect. It is often unbearable and some accomplished writers simply graduate out of the role. None of these storytellers do much other than decorate these complaints. It becomes obvious early in the game that this is still interesting to watch because the filmmaker jumps around, composing his own narrative out of these interviews. No one bit is kept longer than a minute or so. It is a masterpiece of composition, editing and just plain deep listening.

It is a folded story that says in two ways that the writer is the beginning of the adventure, the generator of first ideas, but is not the filmmaker.

So that's all good. Don't expect a single phrase about writing itself. This is all about the business, the selling and the commerce. There are some people here that I really would like to know better. I did not and this will frustrate you too.

Ted's Evaluation -- 2 of 3: Has some interesting elements.
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7/10
4000 reasons not to become a professional screenwriter
skepticskeptical31 August 2019
Tales from the Script is a long series of short clips from interviews with successful screenwriters who reveal what most every artist already knew: if you want to be true to your vision, you must stick to noncollaborative art, and if you are looking to be paid for your art, you had better be ready to compromise.

Screenwriters are writers, but they can earn potentially much more money than solo writers. So the price they pay is having to deal with all of the people in the industry whose only reason for being there is to earn money. They also have to deal with the big egos of directors, producers, and actors. Judging by the anecdotes described in this film, screenwriters are a rather masochistic lot, who despite being psychologically abused by people who have no idea how to write, continue on because, on balance, they have decided that the alternative would be worse.

In addition to all of the interview excerpts with a wide range of screenwriters, short scenes from a variety of films which self-referentially treat the topic are also included. I had no idea that there were so many Hollywood movies with screenwriting as a theme!
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10/10
Excellent behind the scenes movie
veggiegirl4225 July 2010
After reading the book, Tales from the Script by Paul Herman and Peter Hanson, I watched the movie. It was very interesting and engaging. I particularly enjoyed the way they edited the interviews together to develop an overall understanding of screen writing and the film making process. Hearing the screenwriters discuss their journeys from page to screen was enlightening. I think Peter Hanson and Paul Herman did a great job of getting a diversity of screenwriters and putting together thoughtful interviews. Seeing the people who have written some of my favorite movies was interesting, and I ended up learning about some great movies I've never seen through reading the book and seeing the film. I would definitely recommend this movie and book to anyone who is interested in screen writing or just a general film geek.
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10/10
The MUST-SEE movie for screenwriters.
nrfair12 January 2009
Thought this was a great movie and by far the most comprehensive thing i've seen on the subject. For us struggling writers out here in LA, it gives us hope, but also shows us that its not that easy and reminds us that it takes a lot of work and a lot of rejection.

A great film for any of those out there with an interest in Hollywood, screen writing, the industry, or just people chasing a dream.

I really enjoyed the amount of personal accounts from so many of the screenwriters, just documenting how the process literally casts a shadow over the writer and gives them very little credit.

I'm sure it will at least be self-distributed, but I am going to guess that this will be picked up soon. What a gem!
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10/10
Follywood...
poe42611 August 2014
Filmmakers who neglect producing a good script rarely produce a good movie. Sure, film's a visual medium (but, then, so are comic books)- but all the beautiful imagery in the world is meaningless without a coherent background story. TALES FROM THE SCRIPT is a cautionary tale and, like the documentary THE HECK WITH Hollywood!, it offers some possible solutions for aspiring screenwriters. (Although the solution in THE HECK WITH Hollywood! is to go out and make your OWN movie, without regard to geography, which is probably the BEST advice: as mavericks like George Romero have shown, it IS possible to go out and do it yourself and be successful. With the kind of video technology that exists now, I'm frankly amazed that there aren't MORE independent filmmakers making waves out there...) Posting unproduced scripts online is one way to try to interest potential investors (I may do it myself). The options these days are many. Settling for Hollywood should no longer be the only option.
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Must-see
Red_Identity21 October 2013
I've been interested in screen writing for some time now. I've written a few short scripts and taking a screen writing class, and this film is sort of a combination of all the things you've always heard but non-stop in pace. This means that while none of this is all that new, it hits you full-motion and it kinda puts everything into a larger perspective. This is a tough business after all! It's fun seeing screenwriters of films you've seen talk about their experiences (especially Frank Darabont on the ending to The Mist, and John Carpenter). In a way, it's downbeat but also optimistic by the end. This is definitely recommended for pretty much anyone interested in screen writing
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