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7/10
I was an extra in this film...
dutch-5-74119521 March 2011
John Evens Jr. High School in Greeley Colorado had a casting call prior to the filming for extras. If I remember right we got 25 dollars for each days work and we got fed.

Greeley was pretty much the perfect place for this movie. There was a huge teen violence problem there. even at age 12 I carried a pistol and roamed the city at will with other kids fearing attack from gangs of older teens. Drugs were everywhere.

The movie captured all that stupidity plus the Apathy and ignorance of the adults. I loved the scenes where we rioted in the Circus tent styled John Evens Jr. High School......made it hard to attend class the following year.

History has proved that the film makers knew what kind of society America would become...Cookie cutter homes,strip malls and teen murderers......Art predicts life.
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7/10
The More You Suppress, the More Extreme the Revolt
jzappa24 February 2011
Further than the imagery of white, middle-class American kids and teenagers getting high, speaking in an acquired voice and lingo to convey a both tastefully silly and unsettling angst, there's a visualization of America in Jonathan Kaplan's appealing, outlandish generation gap exploitation film that's anything but silly, and by now has basically become the norm. The details of the plot aren't all that essential. We're expected to grasp a sentiment of adolescent frustration and suspicion.

The locale is New Granada, one of those depressingly vanilla suburban districts that emerged all over this country in an upsurge of real-estate guesswork and substandard urban planning in the '60s and early '70s. New Granada is a development of dull condos, rigorously serviceable apartment blocks for those who cannot meet the expense of the condos, streets that bend futilely into badlands still to be urbanized, and an ultra-modern high school that seems like it's been built yesterday to accommodate tomorrow's automatons. It's the assertion of the filmmakers that the planners of New Granada made a grave gaffe in not bearing in mind that a quarter of its population would be 15 years old or younger, with nowhere to go except an old Quonset hut used as a rec center, nothing to consider and, most terrible, nothing to do.

The hub of the film is Carl, an ultimately good 15-year-old boy whose dad, a Cadillac dealer, frets more about selling than about where the kids are, before or after 10pm. Provoked by the case of his more experienced pal Richie, played by Matt Dillon, who auditioned for the role while skipping school, Carl starts to embrace the scornful, tough-guy characteristics of the rest of New Granada's youth, most of whom are on drugs of one kind or another. Carl keeps away from drugs but not danger. New Granada's fanatical policeman, Doberman, discriminatorily blames Carl and Richie for a practical joke perpetrated by two other troublemakers. Like a New Granada street, Carl's life doesn't seem to be progressing.

Doberman's jumpy shooting of one of Carl's friends induces the film's furious climax: The New Granada youth charge the high school, where their parents are holding an urgent assembly to argue property values and teenage crime, lock their parents into the school auditorium, and go on a huge sabotage binge. There's something unluckily amusing in the image of a smug child, who looks to be no more than 12, talking about scoring some hash for his friends, and about the quandary of another, just as young student who stumbles into an art class, having taken some LSD to begin the day, just to be faced with a projection of a Bosch painting.

The movie can't help idealizing its generally stupid teenagers, their incoherent yearnings and doubts, their disheartenment and, ultimately, their fuming revolt. Not including Carl and Richie, the youngsters aren't characters but a refrain of postures. Unlike other such films, however, this independent suburban wasteland drama dramatizes the tedium and futility of their world with exceptional sincerity. New Granada is a virtually unspoiled visual symbol of the incorporated obsolescence that's expected to perpetuate the American economy, but which makes crap faster than the crap can be used. If New Granada's kids are apathetic robots, they're only a spot more offensive and less self-righteous than their ignorant parents.

I suppose, the performances by the grown-ups in the film, particularly by Andy Romano and Ellen Geer, as Carl's parents, and by Harry Northup, as the harrying Doberman, are more effective than those of the younger actors, but both Kramer and Dillon are equal as Carl and Richie. Pamela Ludwig, who plays Carl's girlfriend, is super-hot. A great deal of Over the Edge is gawkily acted and motivated, but it's executed with such vibrancy and disquiet that, as you watch it, you're often caught halfway between an embarrassed laugh and a struggle for breath.
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7/10
Over the edge is just a bit over the top..
AlsExGal27 October 2015
...and a bit obvious to at least me as a viewer. Why can't the parents see what is going on if I can see it from just about frame one and one outsider says the whole problem in one sentence clearly stated as he speeds away from town? The locale is one of those HOA standalone developments in the prairie that was built from end to end as a planned community. The location is never mentioned. The filming was done in Aurora,Colorado, but it appears to be possibly an exoburb of a large city in California (LA/SF/SD??) that is far enough away from the city that urban criminals will not be hanging around, and if they do will stick out like a non-white thumb, yet close enough that "dad" can still commute. This film was made at the tail end of an era in which the majority of wives stayed at home while dad trudged to work every morning. All of the apartments look alike. All of the houses look alike. The high school looks like a prison and seemingly has no history or traditions and is named after the development for which it was formed - New Granada.

There are tennis courts and other amenities for the adults. The problem? There is absolutely NOTHING for the children to do. There is one lone recreation center, but it only has a few pool tables so the kids get together there and share their collective bad habits. Predictably as the children turn into teens they dabble in alcohol, drugs, bored heavy petting and sex, vandalism, and pranks that could turn dangerous - shooting a bee-bee gun at a cop car from an overpass and setting up fireworks to go off underneath cars.

The parents treat the kids like they are some other species. Every incident sparks a reaction from the adults that just makes the kids more rebellious and bored - stay away from your friends! Close down that rec center, it is nothing but a breeding ground for trouble! We need a 9PM curfew! etc. You just want to shake these people and say "Get a grip! These are YOUR kids! How would you feel in this environment? This is not The Village of the Damned!" Then a gun gets into the hands of the teens. They practice shooting cans, they like the power it gives them, then they get into trouble playing a practical joke with it, the cops join chase, and one kid ends up dead. The kid's gun - unloaded at the time.

This causes a final scene that just goes a bit too wild for 1979 suburban kids. It seems like the director said - to quote the film Ed Wood - "I want the film to end with a big explosion". I'll let you watch and find out what happens.

If I have any other criticism at all it is that, although they talk about what they don't want, I never hear enough about what the kids DO want. They never seem quite humanized enough for me in spite of numerous scenes of conversation between each other. However, it is good seeing later talent developing at a young age - Matt Dillon and Vincent Spano in particular. I'd recommend it.
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Just the way it was
aash-229 December 2000
I first saw the movie when it opened in the spring of 1980, on a double bill with "Little Darlings". I ended up seeing it twice. I was the age of the kids in the film at the time, and my bull***t detector didn't go off once during the course of watching this film. The kids were real, the words natural and unaffected, and the whole thing about the boredom that is so prevailing when you're a teenager was right on the money. I remember as I watched the movie thinking that the clothes the kids were wearing looked worn just enough, like they had come out of the actors' own closets. Matt Dillon's first movie - I read that he auditioned for the part as something to do while he skipped school for a day. He reminded me utterly of my then high school boyfriend, right down to the voice, clothes and cocky attitude. The music was exactly what me and all my friends were listening to - Cheap Trick (the earlier, not-played-on-the-radio songs) and the Cars. Ok, so perhaps it was a little unrealistic at parts, and the soundtrack could have done without the Valerie Carter song, but wow, what a great little movie. Rent a copy, go home, slap it in your vcr, and get out your bong and a couple of beers. You won't be dissapointed, not even a little bit.
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6/10
The Inverted World
dansview8 May 2012
Did the film makers depict a place, time, and sociological phenomenon accurately? Yes. But it wasn't balanced. You don't meet any good kids, and you don't meet any fully engaged parents.

Yet in any town, there will be plenty of kids who use their time constructively, and parents who love them and teach them good values. Surely some of those families would have been involved with church, youth sports, scouting, or 4H, etc.

Shooting a police car's front window while it's on the highway is not an act of heroism. Yet the whole movie essentially revolves around covering up this act, and glorifying it all.

Yes the absentee parents are partially to blame for their kids' nihilistic attitudes. But are we really sure that the kids would have listened to them, even if they were more engaged? Some people are just evil, and Junior High is the time when it first comes out most profoundly.

There is nothing inherently wrong with fresh 1970's planned suburban communities. They are what you make of them.

These kids seem to have no sense of connection to their country, their state, their town, their school, their families, or their God. Again, the parents are to blame for some of that. However, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

But this is a movie, not a doctoral thesis. The location choice, the soundtrack usage, particularly the final "Ooh Child" song, and the line about the irony of escaping the city so that the kids wouldn't go bad, and then having them go bad anyways, were quite effective.

But when people say they loved this "cult classic," is it because it was well made, or because they identify with the kids? I do not identify with them, and I was there. I despised them when I was there. I've also noticed that to some degree, the rest of life is just a reenactment of the teen years.

There are the adults that have affairs, bully employees, abuse substances, and cheat on their taxes, and those who pursue a more wholemome track. In popular culture, we still admire the amoral rebel, or even the savage. Be it in Fast and Furious, rap music, or Ultimate Fighting.

The real lesson of the film is what happens when the evil inclination of a human dominates their soul, and is allowed to run amok.
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10/10
The way the 70's REALLY were!
plotrow26 August 2006
The kids are not all right in New Granada!

This film very accurately portrays what life was really like for many teenagers who lived in the suburbs during the 1970s.

Growing up, my own life was very much like those of the teens in this movie: I was a teenager in the mid-70s and I lived in exactly the same sort of constantly under-development, suburban wasteland where whole mobs of kids were pretty much left to their own devices by parents who were too busy chasing the American Dream to notice what we were really up to; a place where there was easy access to lots and lots of cheap drugs and alcohol, and where boredom reigned supreme (remember, these were the days before the Internet, VCRs, or even home video games).

If you were ever rebellious and grew up during the same time period and in the same sort of suburban community, then I guarantee that virtually every character in this movie will remind you of someone you knew back then (maybe even yourself!).
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7/10
Scary how relevant this still is.
tom_golik5 May 2018
I first saw this years ago on cable, and thought it was slightly overdone. Fast forward to today, and the case of Tyler Hadley in Port St. Lucie, FL, who killed his parents so he could throw the best house party ever. (His parents spent the party in their bedroom, dead.) The articles written about it stressed the kids desensitized to violence because of how little there was for kids to do in town except do drugs and commit crimes. Sound familiar? I couldn't help but think of this movie, and how they got it right more than they got it wrong. Do yourself a favor and search this one out. It's well worth it.
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10/10
Reality
haildevilman15 October 2006
This was a teen movie that wasn't a 'teen' movie.

The best thing about this was how it showed that the parents imagined need to raise their kids in a sanitized environment can lead to mind-numbing boredom. Then to petty crime. Then to worse. But at the same time, the kids weren't made out to be these confused little angels either. You sympathized with them while knowing they needed to take responsibility.

Matt Dillion's debut is also his best film.

Most of the young actors were inexperienced. Some of them haven't been seen since. But they all still did a HELL of a job. Why isn't Michael Kramer better known? He was brilliant.

The one complaint I can come up with was some of the parents emotional overacting. Great film though.
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6/10
Better than average teen exploitation movie
sixtwentysix21 January 2004
This film in it's day was pretty controversial. Most of the acting is terrible with a few bright spots. However the message still holds true to the more modern age. A message movie before Harmony Korine was even in kindergarden, this movie underlines how modern adults largely ignore the problems kids have growing up in a bigger faster society. Pretty good movie. Definately better than Kids with about the same attempted shock value.
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9/10
A teen movie that gets it right!
JeffG.30 August 1999
I generally dislike teen movies. Mainly because they're so unrealistic, romanticized versions of high school and teen life. Usually featuring a bunch of stereotypes and some dumb, superficial plot. "Over the Edge," hovever, is one of the few teen movies that actually gets it right.

The movie focuses on a bunch of teens living in the boring, lifeless town of New Granada. A place with with nothing to do. No mall, no movie theaters, not even a fast food place. Nothing to give them somewhere to go or something to do. The adults in the movie can't be bothered with them and are more interested in bringing people into New Granada and developing the town rather than meet the needs of the town's youth. This makes the teens restless and bored and they resort to drugs, guns and crime to keep them occupied. The also misbehave in school and frustrate their teachers.

The local authorities try setting up a curfew, holding meetings and assemblies, and even shut down the local recreation center which provided the teens the only place they can go for fun and social contact. All the while overlooking the real source of the problem. The local sherrif who occasionally harasses the kids (often unfairly) only adds to the problem. The frustration finally builds and builds until the movie's destructive climax.

Based on a true incident, "Over the Edge" is a film which, unlike most teen movies, deals with more weighty topics than who's taking who to the prom. This is a much more realistic portrayal of teen life than "Sixteen Candles" or "Can't Hardly Wait." While the movie brings its message across, it does so without comming across as preachy.

I'm also amazed at how prophetic this movie ended up being, gieven the recent shootings at Littleton. The nation's media and politicians put the blame on the entertainment industry (movies, TV, videogames, etc.) and are overlooking the real cause of what happened. This is very much like the adults in "Over the Edge." Closing down the rec center and setting up a curfew didn't make the problem go away because they had nothing to do with the cause of the problem. In fact, they just made things worse.

"Over the Edge" is a well made and underrated film that sadly rings just as true now as it did in 1979. The next time someone tells you that "The Breakfast Club" is the greatest teen movie ever, show them this movie and set them straight.
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6/10
Kurt Cobain Loved It!
yankeerose-2339316 April 2022
I saw this movie decades ago, but today I was watching a documentary about Kurt Cobain, and he brought up this movie. He loved it, and said he really identified with it.

I wonder how many people have now watched it because of him?
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9/10
As a suburban kid in 1979 I know this film nailed that experience
keycompany200130 March 2000
Despite the melodramatic ending this film is very realistic and thoughtful. This is Matt Dillon's first movie and he is very natural and believable. Because the film was shot on location it had a fantastic look and feel. If you want to know what it felt like being a young teenager in 1979 or even now, then rent this film.
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7/10
A real story of teenage rebellion
JakeRfilmfreak7 January 2024
Over The Edge is a 1979 coming of age crime drama about a town full of board rebellious teenagers looking for a good time any way they can find it. But when one of their own is killed by the town's police Sergeant they decide to take action.

I had never heard of this movie before until recently, but was very glad I did because it's a pretty good film. The story was intriguing and had authentic characters with a great cast behind them that really helped deliver the story home. Jonathan Kaplan's direction was good and captured quite nicely the frustration and angst that small town living can bring to a young teen with nothing to do.

Although maybe not for everybody I really enjoyed this movie and if you haven't seen it before, I would recommend giving it a watch.
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5/10
These are my kind of kids . . . these must be the bad kids
klutch_krusch17 March 2006
New Granada is a friendly suburban community with spacious living facilities, nice folks...and misunderstood youths? I don't get it. Are we really supposed to feel sorry for these kids? Should we let them just run rampant in the streets? They are obviously some very bad kids who deserve what they had coming to them. I don't care how bored you are, you don't go waving a gun around in front of a cop or else you get shot. And how was he supposed to know the thing was loaded anyway? They make the cop out to be the villain and the "misguided youths" the heroes. The only good part of the movie was Matt Dillon, whom you may know from Crash(2004), or for his poignant portrayal of Dallas Winston in The Outsiders(1983).
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Childhood Memories
testorca27 October 2004
With all of today's problems plaguing teens and their parents, this movie may seem a bit tame, but at the time of its release, it had a pretty powerful message (assuming anyone paid attention). I remember watching this with some kids who were about the same age as those portrayed in the movie... These kids all thought this was the best movie ever made, and some commented that they wanted to do pretty much everything they saw in the movie. I remember thinking (not unlike "Billy Jack"), "why would you want to live in a community like this, where all the adults either hate you or fear you? To this day, I am drawn to and repulsed by this movie. That being said, I can't wait to get copy of this on DVD!!! It really was a good film, and I think it captured some of uglier realities of life in some of the "planned communities" of the time.
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6/10
Before River's Edge...
sol-12 March 2017
Living in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do, the bored and disaffected teenagers of a poorly resourced planned community are eventually driven to revolt against the oppressive adult population in this searing drama written by Tim Hunter, who also helmed the similarly themed 'River's Edge' a few years later. The film tackles a very real issue that, with urban sprawl all around the world, still exists today: families lured into cheap housing in new communities that are improperly resourced to handle energetic adolescents. Indeed, while the parents of the film come under scrutiny for not understanding their kids and how boxed up they feel, the poor planning of the town is really the villain of the piece. It takes a long time for the film to make its point though, and with the revolt only occurring in the final third of the movie, there are a lot of repetitive scenes of the teens trying to score drugs, pick up girls and evade the sadistic police to firstly endure. The antagonism between the police and teenagers is a little undercooked too; while all the teens believe that the cops are hell-bent on power and tend to overreact, it is hard to blame the police for being like that if the teenagers do actually constantly vandalise their cars and create public nuisances for no good reason. Unless, of course, boredom is a reason, and say what one may about the film, the movie deftly shows the power of boredom to lead to mischief. Topped off with a mood-setting, eerie score by Sol Kaplan (of 'Niagara' fame), it is a haunting experience that lingers in the mind too.
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10/10
Adolescents are just people trying to learn how to make it among the adults in the world, who are probably not so sure themselves.
Fella_shibby26 April 2021
I first saw this in the early 90s on a vhs n loved the film then and still now. This movie is still very relevant.

Revisited it recently.

This movie is very powerful n realistic n at times very scary inspite of it being a non horror film.

Most of the characters in this movie will remind you of someone you knew while growing up.

The story is about bored n neglected kids who turn to drinking, drugs n vandalism while the adults n police are relentlessly curbing the kids through a 9:30 pm curfew rather than understanding the root causes.
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7/10
Over the Edge...and into Anarchy...
tim-764-29185629 May 2012
After reading reviews, both here on Amazon and elsewhere, I was expecting much from this film. And, whilst it undoubtedly stirred impassioned emotions for many, it left me rather more questioning than sympathetic.

Maybe I'm just too middle-aged now, to really take the side of rebellious youths who then go on to, well, riot. With the riots over here last Summer appalling all but the perpetrators I'm afraid I wasn't hugely moved by their angst. Sure, I can understand the boredom and frustration of youth but I, myself was brought up on a farm and so there was always work and things to do when I was their age and so didn't suffer with that particular affliction.

I didn't mind their dalliance with drugs, at least as far as the film was concerned; that seemed very natural and added interest and I think it was these elements that bumped the certificate up to 18. The soundtrack may have appealed to those who liked those bands, they were before my time, at least in '79, when the film was released, so I can't even say that the music was great.

The young cast is undoubtedly the movie's strong point and much praise has been made on Matt Dillon's debut role. Again, maybe because of my now tender age, I found the politics and economics of it all that were causing all the social problems rather more interesting than that of the youths, which could be a bit worrying!

Despite what I've said about not fully appreciating Over the Edge, it is a good film and well made and I hope that when I come to see it again, sometime, I'll get into it more.
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9/10
I lived this movie.
ezapata-9705822 March 2016
Warning: Spoilers
Just saw this film on TV the other day. This movie is almost a Documentary considering how realistic it is. Kids today have no idea how wild things were back in the 70s. It portrays the Suburban Wasteland in the most authentic way I've ever seen. Parents are still clueless when it comes to their children. Matt Dillon seemed to be in every teen movie of my youth & was great in this one. The only problem I had was with the riot towards the end. It was too over the top. But the dialog spoken by these young actors was almost perfect. This could have had an "After School Special" feel to it but the drugs & general Apathy of the film are what stays with you most. I remember having that sense of "what's the point" growing up in the 70s. This film is very relevant today. I highly recommend it. Watch it with "River's Edge"
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7/10
great chance to see the actors before they were...
unahacker21 October 2005
Semi-realistic portrayal of teen life with a group of believable actors telling the story. The collection of odd characters reminded me of my high school class. Anyone can relate to these kids. We may not go as far as they did, but if it were this bad, I believe we could possibly turn to this action. One example of something that could have pushed me to vandalism is the cheesy "scholastic" film the principal makes the students watch in the auditorium. The makers of the film made this film look bad on purpose (like the old drivers ed. films) and if I had to sit through it, I'd have trashed the school right then. Look for Matt Dillon (a very young Matt Dillon) as the "bad-ass". Pamela Ludwig is the "turn-on" and does a great dance to Cheap Trick's "Surrender". Worth watching once, maybe twice.
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10/10
cool movie!!!!
loumiles-2556819 February 2016
i love this film, my childhood was exactly the same, this movie should be talked about more and seen, its the best high school teen movie ever made. big influence on the larry clark films, the smells like teen spirit film clip, over the edge was the inspiration. think fast times at ridge high, but serious. movies like KIDS, BULLY, were inspired by this film. for 1979 it was way ahead of its time, the high school movies made now are a joke, schools should use this film, its perfect, not one ounce of sentimentality if i was a 16-17 year old i would love this film. sad thing is the film has become just a footnote, rather than a genre definer, if you kids think breakfast club is cool, once you have watched this you will change your mind
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7/10
good 1970s teen movie
monkey-man11 December 2005
I found this gem of a movie called over the edge on a really old video tape at my local DVD/video shop and i was thinking about not hiring it but i ended up hiring it and boy am i glad i hired this movie because this movie is great.There is a good cast in this movie with a really young Matt Dillon he was only 15 in this movie and he did a good job at acting in this movie and his character called Richie is the best character in this movie.

Over all if u like teen movies i think that u will really like this classic 1970s teen movie.And if u see this movie in your rental shop you should rent it.My rating for this movie is 7 out of 10.
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10/10
Still one of my favourite movies - where's the DVD?
ColinHarvey31 May 2005
I was 14 when I first saw this movie on HBO in 1980. It was so much like my life at that time, it's uncanny. Of course, I grew up in an industrial area in northern Indiana, not a "planned community", and my dad wasn't a Cadillac salesman (in fact my dad was a lot more sympathetic than Carl's dad), but a lot of the rest was very similar. Getting beaten up, having stoned/drunk people all around you, basically nothing to do except hang out and listen to music...kids today who feel alienated should see this. I also think social workers, etc, who work with troubled kids should see this.

The music is one thing that really, really makes this movie what it is. I had the soundtrack on vinyl LP and I wish it would be released on CD! Van Halen, Hendrix, The Cars...it's all good. To be more accurate (for me), though, there would have been heavy doses of Kiss, Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, Rush, Black Sabbath, etc.

Please bring on the DVD! For anyone around my age who was this frustrated, this is one of several indispensable movies that will bring back memories; the others being "The Outsiders" and, on a lighter note, "Detroit Rock City".
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2/10
Rubbish that cheapens the social problem it tries to depict
mentalcritic4 March 2006
After reading Roger Ebert's three-star review and reflecting on the small, overengineered, oversafe communities I have borne witness to, I no longer trust the man's opinion. Or that of anyone who rates this film in a positive fashion, for that matter. As the summary says, this film takes a serious social problem, that of small towns boxing their young citizens in and sentencing to what is little more than a life in prison, and cheapens it. As any autistic individual living in a community where there is inadequate or no support for their needs will tell you, and this happens to include many urban environments by the way, there are plenty who would give their eye to see a serious, explorative depiction of the manner in which those rustic communities we are led to believe are so happy should carry warnings on their town limits that only the fit and healthy can expect the hype to be met. Okay, that was a painfully long sentence, and I apologise, but the film is as deep as a puddle, and the problem it is based around is like an ocean.

About the only film's redeeming virtue is a moderated, gentle performance by Matt Dillon. The rest of the cast scream and babble their way through roles that give them less than a whole dimension to work with. The Springtime For Hitler play depicted in The Producers is less farcical. Equally problematic are the adults in this situation. While it is to be expected that a lot of the adult figures in town are going to think the problem will just float away if they rule over the youth with an iron fist, most people over the age of twenty have developed enough of a sense of realism. About the only line in the film that makes any sense is when Lane Smith tells one of the overlords that they have effectively turned their children into the very thing they moved out of civilisation to get away from. And that is what makes this whole thing ironic. These teens are revolting not because their fathers will not buy them a car when they turn sixteen or some petty thing like that. They are revolting because they are being denied their most basic rights, including equal protection under the law. Which makes it all the more insulting, how cheapening the film is.

Not that the youths are any better as characters than are the adults. Matt Dillon does a great job as a focal point for any empathy, but the rest of the young cast are as disagreeable as the adult cast. With the apparent lack of any organised solidarity in these youths, it beggars belief that they are able to organise well enough to hold the adults hostage in the school late in the story. Making matters even worse is that Charles Haas and Jonathan Kaplan are unable to resist the urge to turn this into an action film, with shotgun blasts causing multiple cars to explode in flames. Granted, insulting film physics were not as common in 1979 as they are now, but even asking us to believe that a seventeen year old (at most) can get his hands on a shotgun just pushes us over the edge. Pardon the pun. Even more insulting is how the situation is depicted with the police able to violate the teens' rights against illegal search and seizure or home invasion as if this happens to every white-bread teenager. One must think the police in this town moved from an area like California and became frustrated at the lack of any apparently autistic teens to violate.

Haas also crossed the line when he tried earlier to exaggerate a real-life incident into a news story, upon which he based the screenplay. I am not sure how easy it would be to find any of the teens who were involved in the real incident, but I suspect they would have the same thing to say about Haas' writings as L. Ron Hubbard's son had to say about ninety-five percent of what Hubbard wrote regarding his life. Namely, that it was utterly false. And therein lies the rub. Even upon initial release, I cannot believe that anyone who saw this film took it seriously. In the absence of any reason to take it seriously, this film only serves to polarise the subject and take the place of any serious discussion. I happen to feel that in years to come especially, those who live in communities like the one in this film are going to be hit the worst when the economics of transport become increasingly unviable.

I gave Over The Edge a two out of ten. It is not even good enough to be bad. It is, on the other hand, so bad that it becomes offensive in its final act, which only serves to contrast with the sheer boredom of the previous two. In the presence of serious social-situation films such as Mozart And The Whale or The Squid And The Whale, there is no reason whatsoever to see it.
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The Best Disillusioned Youth Film EVER
robc-1123 April 2004
"Over the Edge" is a powerful, unforgettable 1979 film about a planned suburban community, New Granada, where all the adults are worried only about bringing much-needed money and business to the struggling, barren dump of a town. What the adults don't seem to realize is that more than half of the population is made up of pre-teens and teenagers who drink, smoke weed, do hard drugs, play with guns, and destroy property because these parents and adults have given them nothing to do; nothing constructive whatsoever. These are NOT bad kids. I felt for them. They are victims of their environment and complete lack of parental attention. When the kids finally become restless and hopeless, havoc ensues, but most of it is created by the town Police Chief Doberman, who has no business whatsoever dealing with youth. The only place the kids have to go is the recreation center, managed by a truly sympathetic and understanding young woman. Of course, the town officials fire her. In 1979, this film was rated PG. It's a STRONG "PG". If this film were made today (and I doubt it would be) I imagine it would receive at least a PG-13 or maybe even an R. Children as young as thirteen/fourteen are seen dropping acid, smoking hash, guzzling liquor, shooting guns, getting into fights, etc. AND IT IS ALL THE FAULT OF THE ADULTS, WHO ARE TOTALLY BLIND! Matt Dillon's film debut, and an unknown actor, young Tom Fergus, gives the most natural performance from a kid I have ever seen as Claude, the kid most heavily involved in drugs. SEEK THIS OUT! IT IS UNFORGETTABLE! If anyone reading this has any info on Tom Fergus, I'd love to see what he's up to now. Also features an awesome soundtrack by The Cars, Van Halen, Cheap Trick, Little Feat, and Jimi Hendrix. This has become a cult classic in many youth circles, and is an early film by acclaimed director Jonothan Kaplan. Pops up on HBO and Cinemax occasionally, is available on tape, and is said to be coming to DVD soon. A masterwork.
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