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7/10
Season 1 Pretty Good, Season 2 Weak!
packrats-215 September 2018
I really enjoyed season 1 of this show. Sure, there was the usual overacting, but several actors turn in a decent performance. There was a lot of action. Season 2 is Weak!! They must have phoned it in because I was very bored. It is too bad.
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7/10
I really liked this; waiting for season 2
blanche-218 November 2017
Mexican First Lady Emillia (Kate del Castillo) wants to divorce her husband, the President, Diego (Erik Hayser). During a brutal argument, Diego falls from the balcony, landing on top of a car and dying. Emillia goes on the run when she realizes she is being accused of her husband's murder. She needs to find the killer and exonerate herself. She winds up in the barrio Tepito, where she is not considered very popular.

Very exciting series with some wonderful performances, particularly by del Castillo in the workhorse role. Lots of great suspense and dramatic scenes as the actual story unfolds, far more complicated than Emillia could ever have imagined.

Emillia has two children; her daughter, Maria (Alicia Jaziz) is gay. I have no problem with that at all, but it was completely unnecessary to the plot. Eréndira Ibarra brings an elegance and coldness to the role of Ana Vargas-West. Both she and Erik Hayser were in the series Sense8. There are many striking performances, particularly from Aida Lopez, Alberto Guerra, and Tamara Mazarraza.

Looking forward to season 2.
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8/10
A political/police thriller set in Mexico.
cryanfamily26 March 2017
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The perfect couple are elected to the presidency of the United States of Mexico but apparently not everything is perfect because in the first episode the President is murdered. All the fingers point at, or want to point at, the first lady as the culprit. The first two episodes reveal the principal characters in play who seem to have no connection between themselves. From then on we see how everything is interconnected. This is a well written, well acted thriller which does not let up but keeps us on the edge of our seats. Speculation abounds from the very beginning which, no doubt, will lead us up many a blind path. After seeing only three episodes I am hooked so cannot but recommend this series highly. We will see if it maintains the rhythm and interest. In the meantime enjoy it.
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9/10
Sure to please!
dickiepena9 December 2018
Ingobernable is a superior show. It follows a serial format with short seasons that are popular today. I watched two seasons over the course of a couple weeks, and I loved every minute.

The First Lady of Mexico finds herself in the midst of intrigue that is illustrated by the dichotomy of the corrupt and powerful and those who live in fear and fight to be treated with dignity.

The characters are well written and three dimensional. Each episode is fast paced.

There is something about Spanish language production that have really made me a fan. They commit to the story, and go for it.

Kate del Castillo leads the ensemble cast. She was in the Telemundo production of La Reina del Sur, and again delivers a strong performance.

As First Lady, Emília Urquiza, she wants to fight corruption in Mexico that plagues the life of the innocents.

There are twists and turns, heartache, friendships, loyalty and betrayals.

The production values are stunning. Sets include a presidential palace and desperate neighborhoods.

Even if you need subtitles, it's worth watching. I noted there were complaints about the subtitles. Not every sentence spoken in one language translates well to another language, but the subtitles serve the story well.
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7/10
Decent for Latin American Audience
moefrankly15 April 2017
First: Good on Netflix for working on decent Spanish shows for the Latino/Spanish language Audience. Second: The general quality if fine. It does feel like a Spanish language "Houes of Cards" / "Narcos" style production. So if you like those, you will probably enjoy this. Third: Ignore the"Overdramatic Cheesy Telenovela" comments. Those comments are by people expecting things to feel like USA English language productions. Apples and Oranges. If speak Spanish fluently, are Latin American or at least know Latin American culture, and have watched sufficient Latin American TV, it presents appropriately for shows of this genre. I suppose the target audience is for Spanish native Latin Americans, not for those watching through USA English style glasses.
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9/10
Loved it
elenaabaum8 August 2018
I haven't seen the English subtitles, so i am not sure if the few bad reviews are from people who read a poor translation, or just don't get it....but this show is great! The action, the drama, everything! Disagree with the bad acting comment. This show's characters are well developed and multi-faceted. If you like exciting thrillers, especially if you speak Spanish, you will probably love this. Also... this isn't "Mexico trying to be the US." That kind of US exceptionalism perspective is so limited, misguided, and uncultured (sorry)....and appears to be based on a stereotypical viewpoint of how people in Mexico should dress/act. I can say that this show is definitely Mexican, and definitely a fun watch.
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7/10
Good conspiracy thriller
sameenuk1 December 2018
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I am most of the way through season 1. This is a character driven Mexican conspiracy drama. For some reason, the way the story flows makes it very hard to feel attached to any of main characters. The backstories are introduced slightly randomly. I really couldn't stand "chris" at first, but then the backstory kicked in about his ptsd. Which made what happened to his sister very anti climatic.

I do appreciate this is best understood in a Mexican historical context. The machismo is a bit overdone and the president just a little too handsome and chiselled. But the speech around tackling the drug traffickers in a different way was cathartic. Given their importance in the plot device, I'm surprised not to see trafficking gangs characterised. The military seem to be doing the job of the police in most scenes.

You have to suspend disbelief which is fair enough. So the first lady going around totally incognito or doing a getaway in heels is a bit hard to swallow. The hacking skills of Ovni just seemed to grow and grow and it becomes harder to believe. The interdynamics like the notional love triangle between Zyan-canek-Emilia just felt contrived. The one character I liked was the super smart special investigator but maybe her scenes were cut as it's hard to see how she makes so many logical deductions.
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10/10
Amazing!
miriam_tierna17 September 2018
Ignore the bad reviews! This very well written, directed and cast. This was not shot in Mexico, and I impressed in how well the locations were choose. The acting in really good. The plot is decent and crude. Some pleople will say it's exagerated and unrealistic, but in Mexico worst things are happening. Kudos for Kate del castillo and the makers
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6/10
Good action and tension, .. but too much unnecesary, boring and really long sex escenes.
Guanche4818 October 2021
I only saw the first season, I just won't watch the second. The series reminds me a little of 24, but only a little.

Action and moments of tension are the best. That kept me going.

The worst of all are the very long sex scenes combined with very important action scenes, stupid, and also with a terrible background music.

This ended up convincing me not to see the second season. Unfortunately the action did not seem enough to continue watching.
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2/10
Promising start, but does not deliver
JohnM6324 October 2021
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Episode one of this series definitely has the promise of an interesting and exciting story, but already at episode two the story falls apart. From then on the scenario is full of plot holes and has some of the worst acting and dialogues I've ever seen. The numerous sex scenes are maybe nice for those who like that, but generally they are just a waste of time as they add nothing to the story.

Other than that, also this series has scenes and subplots that really make no sense at all. A group of complete amateurs raids a military secret prison without any preparation and (partially) succeed and kill all of the soldiers. Really?

Credibility is also an issue in this series. Some amateur 'hacker' who all of a sudden is able to decrypt encrypted files and hack into surveillance cameras and is able to handle a full automatic weapon successfully simple by what he has learned from games? Come on.

At numerous times there are timing mismatches. A mother having sex with her new found friend as she should be on her way to her daughter whom she wants to see so desperately. Really.

I gave it a chance up until episode 11, but gave up. I can only think of one positive thing: generally nice photography. That however is far from enough to keep you going.
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10/10
Can't stop watching
cmgf_usa4 October 2018
The thriller is really good and I can't stop watching the first season
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6/10
Action packed Mexican political thriller with soap opera overtones
antiflakflak28 June 2017
Mexican culture is separate from American culture and vastly different but in this series they try too hard to be American, in their style, hairdos, morals, absorption of the narco culture via American influence, what I find about all of this is that it is sad, they have semi assimilated into Americans without questioning anything. That's what this series has made transparently obvious when I watched it. The first lady and president appear to be barbie doll perfect, all the upper echelon Mexicans appear perfect, coiffed and lipsticked to the T, that's not how I remember Mexicans. There's flashes of crowds of Mexicans, and there you see the real Mexico in the crowd. There are too many sex scenes, overdone to adnauseum, they're tiring after a while. There are too many flashbacks throughout the series. It's not necessary, it is just filler. The main characters carry on like Americans, violent,overly dramatic emotional, the characters don't behave pragmatically, rather hysterically all the time. At times it is tedious to watch, cause here we go another flashback, who cares, we've already seen this. If you have nothing better to do with your life watch this series.
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4/10
A soap opera with a better budget
lupanarreview31 March 2017
The story has the usual melodrama and stereotypes of your regular "telenovela". As such, it highlights the acute class differences in Mexico in a very Manichaean way (the rich are bad, the poor are good) and uses trite ploys like fortuitous lesbian sex for shock value. There are a lot of inexplicable situations, for example, a fugitive First Lady running away in exaggeratedly high-heels with which she can barely walk or the secret service taking all the time in the world to respond to a presidential emergency. There are just too many holes in the logic of the story to make it believable.

All these traits of the decaying soap opera genre would be enough to question Netflix's new quality standards, however, even the production values are lacking and it clearly wasn't a matter of budget but carelessness. There are night scenes where the daylight coming in from the windows is apparent; the blood looks like ketchup; there are continuity glitches; there is a toy airplane taking off that should have been edited out…

In short, I think this show can only be truly appreciated by those who have grown up with - and love - soap operas.
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10/10
Relevant, entertaining focused on contemporary issues
sun-3416216 September 2018
Honestly the only reason why foreigners may not like Ingobernable it's because they do not know Mexican history and don't understand the relevance of this show. The references to important historical events, the portrait of the military, the media, and the Mexican government, the re-writing of history, foreign government interference, corruption, greed, the interest of few driving a whole nation, it's all just wonderful. Epigmeo Ibarra did an amazing job here and he couldn't have picked a better lead actress. I like how women are portrait in this show too. For me, this show would be a 10, simply for the speech the president did. The speech was, personally, a cathartic moment I am sure 90% of the mexican population would want to see happening in real life. Everything; the president's speech, the well written characters, the portrait of the reality plus the fictional scenarios that are so extreme yet so believable, the good acting, it all makes the show simply amazing.
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6/10
Watchable & Flows along
shaun-3523821 February 2020
It's better than a lot of reviews state. A bit melodramatic at times but then picks itself up. Language dubbing is better than a lot of foreign language shows/movies. Season 1 was easy to watch and haven't seen 2 yet. It won't go into the all time favourites but it's better than the last few series I've seen in Netflix
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9/10
Just when one might think "House of Cards" was tough.
davinci-748091 April 2017
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Caught in a personal fight the President and his wife that ended in a tragedy. The President is killed and the blame is on his wife. She is trying to escape in order to buy time and find out who killed him, while some in the Government and others puts the blame on her. Goes from the top of Mexican society to the drug tunnels of Mexico City in a very realistic manner. Netflix did it again, very well.
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6/10
Weapons soup
kvasle2 February 2022
More and more a banal and unrealistic story, for each episode, especially in season two. Constantly unrealistic spontaneous actions with weapons, carried out by people without weapons training. Screaming even when it's not critical. Cinematic effects are used as the make-up of a soup of a story.
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9/10
Ignore the super low ratings!
TweetyonIMDB25 September 2017
I upped the rating to counter the 1 or 2 star voters. The show is genuinely not bad at all. Yes, it's full of holes but then it's a Mexican production; it doesn't have the big budget and experience of more popular series.

I binge-watched the entire 15 episodes of series 1 and enjoyed it. If I have any real criticism at all, it's that E15 didn't "end" / tie up the series. The whole thing left you feeling like it had been cut mid-stream, without an appropriate resolution to the series. That is poor writing/production and, hopefully, S02 won't leave one feeling the same way at the end. It's worth a 6 or 7 out of 10.
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1/10
The Shows is a joke!
circlerinc13 November 2020
Overall the title has good action, drama, corrupt government and all that. But is is a rotten tomato because 5 simple person is beating the system and fighting three different Armies and cartel is not real. Specially a girl (Emillia) she was an X first lady and she is killing right and left everyone who gets in her way. She is defeating the whole Army, Cartel, Government and the show more looks like a Bionic woman. Basically this show is far from being Real, doesn't make sense.
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8/10
Not your madre's telenovela
richmx2-957-86646416 November 2017
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While the elements of a good telenovela are all present, and the unrealistic coincidences (the first lady on the lam's nanny just happens to have a sister with a hacker toy-boy, and the nanny's son, the stud, just happens to show up at auntie's house the day he's released from prison, etc.) it is as a specifically Mexican (not generic Latin American, or Latin America through US filters) that it works. The references to fictional massacres, and scandals have resonance to our own recent history and various characters are based on political and public figures we can recognize. The conspiracy (involving the CIA, the DEA, our army, the "cartels", and CESEN -- our intelligence service) is perhaps a bit overblown, but plausible to us here.

One thing I thought very good was in the early episodes, the legal and constitutional processes that would go with a transfer of power in a crisis (the last time was in 1927, when the President-elect was assassinated a few weeks before his inauguration) and the formality surrounding our system of government... all without interfering with the story.

What particularly impressed me was that, unlike standard telenovelas, the realities of my city were not "prettied up" for TV. Tepito looks like Tepito, and the actors aren't all the pretty white people, but are very real Mexican types.
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3/10
Escape in High Heels
wolfen24427 January 2019
Other than trying to run across town in 9" high heels and constantly making sure her makeup and hair are perfect and her skirt is high enough, I guess the First Lady is reasonably believable as a surgeon. Otherwise this is actually a reasonably decent chase flick. Oops! I mean chase episodic t.v. show not unlike The Fugitive.
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10/10
So good!
dreammaquarius10 April 2017
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I love this show so so so much! Kate is an amazing actress. I love hers and Canek's relationship as their love grows. Everything is corrupted and intense to watch. I finished all esp. in one day. I am telling you it is that good and I cannot get enough of it. This show made me felt like I was part in their show because this show does connect you in every different ways.
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8/10
Great fun. Tense. Entertaining.
clivejamesrd12 January 2020
Good cast. Good mix of characters. Netflix connected the sweet spot with this one! I read a few reviews on here and mostly agree with them, except one I read (no names) the author clearly has no clue about class differences in Mexico. So a lot of drivel ensued about Mexican culture is very different from American culture, blah blah blah. Give me a break. First of all, the political class in Mexico is more European than American. But also, culture is not homogenous. It's a complex thing. American culture is complex, it's not one size fits all. Not every American is a nascar loving, feverish consumer, bible billy. Our culture is stratified. Mexico is no different; so don't miss out on a great series because some teaspoon opted to demonstrate how shallow. This show is a political thriller and it delivers.
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9/10
No season 3?
Ioana171721 February 2021
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Season 2 ended with a major cliffhanger. Season 1 was not good at all, but as the series advanced it became less boring. I began to enjoy it and now it ended.
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2/10
Netflix canceled Gypsy and renewed this???
Undomestic-Goddess4 April 2018
Honestly, I don't leave reviews very often but after suffering through the 15 episodes of Ingobernable, I had to... This was terrible, sub-par even for Netflix... Maybe, I'm biased but I'm used to high quality Spanish series, give me Velvet, Casa de Papel , Vis-à-vis or So quien eres any day and I will happily forgo sleep and watch 16 hours straight but this Mexican série was torture... I had to see it through over 4 days, and finally hit the delete button... I'm only giving it 2 stars for the premise of the plot. The acting was awful, the plot holes so apparent, and the lack of chemistry was what made it unwatchable for me... I actually wondered what K. Castillo and Maxi Iglesias were doing in this disaster of a serie, because I know they both have serious acting chops... And it makes me question what is going on at Netflix because to greenlight this and cancel the majestic Gypsy makes no sense whatsoever. This is a bad serialized telenovela that would not survive after a season on network television.
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