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5/10
Nothing New
Sawyer-48151623428 November 2017
I kind of like gritty movies about the drug underworld. This one was just OK. All the elements were there but the movie didn't really do much for me.

My main problem is I didn't like any of the characters. Even the protagonist. They all made such dumb decisions. And even the scenes of the protagonist's home life which felt like they were supposed to earn her sympathy ended up just being sad.

Not a bad movie by any means. But certainty not a great one. I suspect younger audience might like this more than those over 30. For me the movie was hard to connect with.

In a month or so I'll probably forget this movie completely and that is it's worst sin- being unmemorable.
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6/10
Gritty crime drama
UncleLongHair211 February 2018
Caught this on Netflix, I thought it started well and drew you into a story about teens, using and buying and selling drugs. Pablo Schreiber jumps off the screen, he does an excellent job and was perfectly cast, showing the corrupted raw instincts of a military veteran gone bad. The story is ultimately one that has been told many times but is a good tense gritty crime drama. Without giving away spoilers I can't go into the plot but think of a combination of 8 Mile and Breaking Bad. Every character was desperate in their own way in a tightly woven story.

I hate to say it but I think the weak spot was Eliza Taylor who is not up to the challenge of carrying the film and was a bit too soft for the part. I was surprised to see Lena Headey and it took me a minute to recognize her, she did a wonderful job as Eliza's boss. The best part of the film was the middle and the end did not live up to the tension, but overall worth watching.
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6/10
Female lead couldn't carry the film
tom-563154 November 2018
I have to agree with the other reviews that noted the main character didn't quite produce the depth needed for this film. The writing was strong. Most of the characters' pulled their part. But the lead was a bit of a miss.
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Not bad
xacebop-094249 February 2018
There were some aspects of this film that I thought were really interesting and showed glimpses of brilliance but in the end they were often unexplored. The character development itself was my biggest complaint. The main character's family struggle really just doesn't feel invested enough. The thin line between law and criminality, again, glimpses are shown but don't really emphasize but more lightly tread. The law enforcement pressure on their own, and later the circumstances surrounding the characters who are involved in crime was almost frustrating to watch because you are given a tease of how that could have been a major breakthrough, but to no avail.

I will say that the setting, characters, and a few individual performances really kept me interested. The guy who played Wyatt ("pornstache") was sort of another level, and he really sold the performance. The main character seemed awkward in the beginning but that (to my surprise) is resolved later on.

Overall I'd put this at around 6.5, nothing groundbreaking but some people with a niche for this subject will enjoy it.
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6/10
Good actors in a subpar film
katish710 February 2018
Surprised to see so many good actors participating in this halfway thought through film. Writing is bad, directing pretentious, felt like a film school student film. Gave it 6 as a kudos for being able to involve good actors into this bad film.
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7/10
Good acting from the men, the main lady fell flat.
michaelpeiper10 February 2018
I thought that the movie was interesting and amusing and entertaining and it kept me in suspense as to what would happen until there became some notion that nothing bad will happen and it sort of fell flat around 6/10 or 7/10 into the film. I liked the performances by Troy and the drug dealer. Beaver was a bit of a bore and I found that he did not act much at all just sort of behaved normally as any other day and so did the girl. So it was supposed to feel real like that film 'Kids' but their two performances just made it feel pretentious. Well, the decision of the woman in the film was far from realistic, and none of this would occur at such a level. I am angry that we did not get more of the drug dealer's story and Troy's story, as they are the only two who were interesting people and felt real. The others were forgettable and fake. Especially how she is a terrible cop who in no real way did any justice to the reality of tough, mature, and wise women who engage in such life and death behavior. It seemed to me like she was too sheltered to do this role and should stick to some sitcoms like Fuller House. But yeah, the guy who plays the Drug Dealer and his cousin Troy are good characters and actors and they made this film interesting. Some of the scenes were dragging on with the relationship between the two and the stereotypes were all there for every person built into a sort of dumb script but Sheiber and Grant did their part to perform in an adverse scenario. This writer needs to make a point and stick to it and focus on the strengths and drop the dead weight.
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5/10
Decent acting .Poor storyline
ger55champ24 November 2018
The storyline is absolutely pathetic The undercover cop is so pathetic it's unbelievable .She was so thick ,she deserved to die in it ..Bonkers
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7/10
Tension
siannyd17 March 2021
I enjoyed this, good tension throughout. Some good acting performances from Taylor, Schreiber and Webber. Headey was good as usual but the part was so limiting it didn't really give her a chance to show us her best. Would have liked a bit more from the ending.
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3/10
Dump the Thump
daytradermillion23 February 2018
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Thumper threw some serious curves with actors in their mid- to late 30s, which looked their age, still attending high school, or was it prep school? It was a disjointed flick for several reasons, one noted, and another flaw is that the undercover gal, with the pink strands, gave a very sub par performance for a highly trained undercover law enforcement officer, such as digging through a dealer's trash during the day (while he is home), to injecting smack but continually refusing to hit on every joint offered to her.

Another bad miss was the so-called "cook," a military veteran, who, while trying to get his VA script filled at some store (VA meds are mailed directly to your home), was told several times that his insurance was no good (there is no insurance for VA meds).

While one can not understand why a disabled vet is at a drug store trying to get his VA meds in the first place, it gets worse. During this horrible scene, he obviously stepped right in front of some gal who had been in line, for who knows how long, waiting to talk with the same pharmacist, but she smiles at him as he brushes her aside and presses his clumsy dialogue with the pharmacist for his meds, and as he exits, he and the patience of Job gal, make eye contact, and she continues to smile as though standing in line was so very pleasant. During his awkward tirade with the pharmacist, moreover, he stated a few times that his medical condition was because of the war, stating it was service related, meaning service-connected, which further affirms that he would not have paid a dime, because there is no such animal as having or needing insurance for the medication. VA vets, which he and others affirmed he was in other scenes, don't have "insurance" for their service-connected meds or even their visits, and they don't go to CVS or Walgreens to get it.

The narcs exaggerated and poorly portrayed love and sympathy for many of those involved with drugs, was also flat and out of character for any undercover officer. (Undercover or plain clothes officers, feds to lowest levels of government, are the 'best' and are those with many years of experience and being on the beat in uniform.)

These are just a few examples of a poorly researched, scripted and produced film. If you want a good one in the genre, see "Drug Store Cowboy," which was not only based on fact but was executed with that strong sense of realism indeed - and it was only released after the real players approved of the production.
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8/10
Standout performances in an intense drama
skip-9875624 February 2018
I Really enjoyed this! Im 58 and this brings back memories from when i was 16 and in that kind of life...Its been so long ago ,it seems like another lifetime..when i see this contemporary drama ,i find it shocking and SAD that things are still so much the same for kids and the drug culture after 42 yrs...That lifestyle, where kids hand out, looking to get high, the way they acted in the movie, is so true to life..the Drug dealer, done by pablo was outstanding! the volatile,quiet one moment,menacing the next,the quality and intensity he brought to the role nailed it..i have know people who acted just like that ! I actually thought from the promo poster that the lead actor was Jon Bernthal ...i was shocked to find ot was Pablo, it was the shaved head that made the resemblence..I love seeing Eliza from the 100, an awesome series!! cant wait for that to return..anyway they rocked their roles, and the supporting actors got the stereotypical drug culture yoyths down pat..again it was sad to see that todays kids were so much like the kids of 40 yrs ago,its like that lifestyle is in a time bubble and seems forever the same..i would hope that todays youth were less inclined to that way of life,or had found ways to creatively express the intense energies of that age bracket in positive ways, and i Do believe that more young people Today are finding healthy and creative outlets than in past...this movie though was a reminder that it still exists
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4/10
Not Realistic
dana-kellish14 November 2019
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While the movie never really specified what drug is being cooked and sold by the bad guy, it's pretty clearly meth. At one point, the main character is forced to prepare the drug and shoot it up. To do this, she uses a lighter. I'm a recovering methamphetamine addict, and I've never seen or heard of anybody using this method for meth. For heroin, sure.

Not only that, but any real addict would make sure they're in the vein by drawing the plunger back and seeing blood be drawn into the syringe (unless they're just "skin popping" it, which is sometimes done by meth users).
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Half believable/Half corney as heck
jk4607023 December 2017
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While the lead actor, Eliza Taylor, and others do well at building the chemistry between each other, this is only half of the film; the half that takes on the seamy underbelly of the Street drug dealing world seems contrived and the film suffers from a poorly written script, made-for-t.v. acting, and direction that seems scattered and poorly put together. Yes, it might have been a great film, but the focus of what the director presents seems tired and condescending to the viewer. That is, some of the film feels like it wants to build down-to-earth, close relationships between characters who seem sincere. The drug sub-culture parts of the plot displays a lack of understanding of the drug sub-culture and lingo. While this might have been finessed by employing less talk and more affect, the director fails to dovetail the human aspect with the moral one, makes it difficult to identify fully with any one of the characters. The subject matter ends up a drawn-out garbled message that was the main underplot of the entire project; the battle between separating good and evil from the grey emotional places in-between.This may have been better accomplished with less dialogue. Dialogue that sound more like a t.v. crime show rather than the decent indie-style film that it spends more time with. The half half that resembles a television series totally decimated what the character building phase accomplished. There is no happy medium. One comes away from the film feeling like hostages on a very slow, predictable amusement park ride - too long, too boring, and not worth the viewer's effort. Wish the entire crew the best, and hope that next time the director focuses more on overall continuity than wandering around taking us on an obvious message that spends too much time pretending the script is adequate, rather than spending time editing.

The initial idea was probably well-intentioned, but this subject matter, once bitten into, seems more than the professionals who made this can effectively chew. Overall very unsatisfying. Four stars only for efforts actor Eliza Taylor, who provided brief moments if engaging and captivating realism.
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9/10
Outstanding Cast
corvette-4592124 February 2018
I started watching this with little expectation as the plot has all been done before, however as soon as you get a tour through the seedy meth lab in the LA area that feels light years from Disneyland it felt very real. It wasn't until I read about the cast afterwards on IMDB that it all made sense? they are not just from the U.S but from Canada, Australia, Wales, Bermuda - that is what makes this movie separate itself from the rest as they are unknowingly bringing other dimensions to a film that has been done many times before. This movie is worth visiting, not just to see life on the other side of the tracks but to admire the great acting that this group deliver.
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9/10
In 'Thumper' everyone loses the war on drugs
canondefiant10 May 2017
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There are several things that "Thumper" does remarkably well, and that's saying a lot—in the past decade or so, films (and, indeed, television shows) on drugs, drug use, and the war on drugs, have steadily become more staple, enough to establish their own set of tropes and pitfalls. But "Thumper" does enough to both validate and subvert expectations, by allowing organic character beats to drive the plot, and intimate human relationships to steer us into unfamiliar territory.

The film's leads—Pablo Schreiber as menacing meth cook Wyatt, Eliza Taylor as shrewd undercover cop Kat—hurl themselves (occasionally, quite literally) into their complex roles with ferocious commitment. From the opening scene, Schreiber brings a furious volcanic intensity into the frame, threatening to explode in a wave of fire and ash. Taylor adeptly matches his performance with what she's given, brazenly going toe-to-toe with him—a notable feat, considering he towers an entire foot over her—and talking back when others fall silent.

But it is Daniel Webber's vulnerable, downplayed Beaver—his arc mirrors Kat's in a number of ways, one of the reasons they are drawn to one another—whose agency and actions becomes crucial. And it is Beaver's relationship with Wyatt—in all its sad shades of fear, respect, anger, humiliation, and the need for validation—that changes everyone's lives, for better or worse.

Other gritty performances include Grant Harvey as Wyatt's cousin, Troy, who brings to mind a mild, not-so-far-gone Sick Boy, Jazzy De Lisser's hard-boiled addict Gina, and Lena Headey's overbearing, sneering Ellen. It goes without saying that "Thumper" owes much of its praise to its cast—although there is noticeable unevenness with the writing, particularly for the female roles.

Despite that unevenness, by the conclusion of the film, we are left with Kat, forced by her ordeal to take a hard look at who she is, and how what she has done has changed her. For a film that initially gives the impression of a creeping cynicism bordering on overwhelming pessimism, Kat's recognition of the drug war for the vicious, violent cycle it is, and her firm decision to break away from it, speaks volumes. Taylor's remarkable performance confirms her ability to bring to life characters with evolving moralities—I hope she continues to explore similarly challenging roles in other independent efforts, which may wisely recognize, and make the most of, her talent.

The film's dedication to naturalism makes apparent director-writer Jordan Ross's roots in documentary filmmaking, with the entire film shot with a hand-held camera, setting the film's uncompromising tone. Effective films often affect emotionally and physically, and "Thumper" is one such film, evoking an undeniably visceral reaction, even on my second (and frankly, far more critical) viewing. It doesn't matter if you suspect, through the film's occasional familiar beats, or muted foreshadowing—or certainly know, as I did that second time—what comes next; how the film takes you there will leave you momentarily breathless, at times, shaken, and by the end, entirely struck.
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10/10
Good Storytelling & Plot
lovettstough6 February 2018
I actually really liked this movie. I am a U.S. MARINE & the vet in this the drug dealer the cooker if this were a true story really if he ever had any honor through it all away when he started doing what he was doing in this. This movie does go to show what the few & far between good law enforcement officers have to do to try to get the job done even if it means sacrificing themselves & their family & friends. I agree with what the main character said & did in the end though. I read some of the other reviews & obviously they expect in a movie about this kind of stuff a lot more action & high energy but this movie was closer to reality than all those fast paced action & high energy movies about this same type of stuff.
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10/10
More movies from Pablo
Pistol2196 November 2020
I personally liked this movie and Pablo has become one of my new favorite actors to watch. DEn of Theives is amazing. He crushes it in that
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10/10
This is a solid tale...
juanmuscle8 September 2018
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I felt the characters were fleshed out well, the storyline was consistent, the plot thickened lol, and we hit a climacteric that was indicative of the character's inherent characteristics; due to her obviously displacing, a lot of transference interplay between her real life and her fake life - but the climacteric leaves us really delineating her intrinsic qualities - she ends up being a fake mom, a fake student, and a fake gf, with all that fakeness you can't help but feel sympathy for her lot in life...
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10/10
I would rate this 11 stars.
aSumuru27 May 2021
Why 11 stars? Being from the same industry, I appreciate the post production color grading that set the mood perfectly for the story. The carefully thought of shots that made each frame a "living" frame so that the actors can easily breathe life into each scene in perfect rhythm.

Performance is at its best. Possibly the most convincing and realistic as it gets. Faultless.

Thumper is seriously the gold standard template of how a movie of this genre should be. Any changes to this screen gem would be gilding the lily. Well done.
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Hard to watch but well done
vchimpanzee30 April 2023
I kept thinking I knew Meredith (Kat) from somewhere. Seeing her name in the credits didn't help until I looked her up. I knew her from when she was the strong but flawed leader of the last people left on Earth after nuclear war. Now that's quite a resume! To be clear, she might have done this movie first.

Here, she has a lot of confidence and yet half the time she is supposed to not know what she is doing. As an actor Meredith is quite good but as a cop she may have been in over her head. Plus she has to cope with being without her son., and not being able to do what she needs to for him. It's quite a range but Eliza Taylor has the ability to do it all. If it's so overwhelming she has to cry, she can do that too.

Pablo Schreiber also stands out. The opening scenes suggest a comedy where he is a Vin Diesel type who cares about his kids but is tough when he has to be. Actually, he is more tough than caring, and occasionally funny. And he is scary when he has to be.

Ben Feldman doesn't do a lot. I liked him a lot in "Superstore" but he looks so different here. He is a loving father with a positive attitude. Maybe too positive. He doesn't really fit in with the rest of the cast, but that's fine because he doesn't share scenes with the others and we need as much positivity as possible.

Jazzy de Lisser is one of the troubled teens. Just tough enough and somewhat vulnerable.

Daniel Webber is a teen in over his head, and he is likable enough, and not that tough considering what he must deal with. But he is caring and even strong when he has to be, as we get to see in at least a couple of scenes.

Jeremy Fraser is either developmentally disabled or really good at pretending. He doesn't do much, but as those who share a scene with him say, he does enough to be "cool".

Lena Headey is one of the cops in charge of taking down the dealers and the "cook" but she doesn't seem all that enthusiastic. But she's having trouble getting solid evidence so maybe it's not that she doesn't care.

This is a movie about drug dealers and users so despite the young kids shown briefly, don't expect kids to be able to watch. There is one scene with a birthday party. In the version I saw so many words were missing and the censors blurred a lot of objects shaped like cigarettes. Meredith/Kat smokes, but apparently if the audience can see what she is smoking, it is tobacco. And there is one particularly bloody scene where the audience is protected from the worst of it.

I don't remember much about music except there was a lot that I don't care for, which is to be expected with the characters here.

It's not what I would choose, but I think it's worth seeing for those who like this sort of thing.
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