Strike: An Uncivil War

Ignore the Tory on here saying "subjective rubbish". Sometimes things don't need a subjective view - calling hard working honest communities "the enemy within" is despicable. More people like these lads and this country might actually have something about it again.

This is well made and long overdue. One of my favourite movies is Brassed Off which is very much parallel to some of this. Working class people keep this bloody place going and those that believe they're above them and see them as people not to be taken seriously need bringing back down to earth. We waste too much money here on nonsense, talentless reality celebrities and characterless footballers.

The in depth view from the miners perspective was insightful, however it lacks any form of objectivity. Viewers looking for an accurate and balanced account of this period need to look else where.

The in depth view from the miners perspective was insightful, however it lacks any form of objectivity. Viewers looking for an accurate and balanced account of this period need to look else where.

The in depth view from the miners perspective was insightful, however it lacks any form of objectivity. Viewers looking for an accurate and balanced account of this period need to look else where.

Many thanks.

Pleased to be able to see this on the big screen, but sadly only four others were there to see what is an important study of the most significant struggle of 20th century Britain.

The film is excellent in its documentary coverage of the Battle of Orgreave, the connivance between the Thatcher government and the British state's forces, and how this was covered up. There is moving testimony by strikers. However the interviews with cops and scabs also help show how the miners were broken.

But the real problem is that the film depicts the strike's defeat as simply being because of the violent defeat of the miners at Orgreave. While important, the real reason for the loss was the failure of the wider union movement to deliver significant and sustained solidarity strike action. The video of the lorries leaving Orgreave with coke for the steel plants should have explained that the drivers' unions failed to call them out.

I was also disappointed that there wasn't more about how the wider working class sustained the communities through solidarity and donations. These workers' didn't get strike pay.

So while the film is inspiring, emotional and will make you hate Thatcher even more, it doesn't get to the heart of how and why the TUC, the Labour Party and the union bureaucrats let the miners down. Thus viewers don't learn the lessons of how we can win next time.

This documentary is really well made it is extremely well made but it is entirely mythologizing the miners as some kind of special human group which others cannot possibly understand . The problem is here it is based entirely on a false premise Mrs Thatcher did not wage wars on the miners she had no interest in the miners the miners were lower-class people people she despised . In her worldview only the wealthy matter 45 years after she visited these shores the British Isles the place is destroyed shredded nobody under the age of 40 will ever be able to afford housing she turned houses into investment opportunities leaving the generations which come after unable to ever buy a home for themselves.

She destroyed dental care which was free and available to all before she destroyed higher education she set the wheels in motion for privatization of practically everything public transport which used to be always average but adequate in the UK after coming to power became bit by bit more and more expensive more and more unreliable she is entirely to blame for all of this there are no positive aspects of Mrs Thatcher's in her time in power she was like Attila the Hun in a skirt .

Now what we have to look at here is who was she really targeting she was not targeting the miners she was targeting Arthur Scargill and the unions she was targeting the power of the working class her entire time in power was class war she wanted to destroy and subjugate the bottom half of the population and she did that very very well people who admire her usually people in the top third of the of the earning population respect her for that she made the wealthy wealthier the same process was going on at the same time in the USA a country run at the time by an ijut called Ronald Reagan both of these people Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan were in fact following the moronic writings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago School which is still followed in 2025 by the current Argentinian head of state. Okay moving back to the miners this shows communities of people in the north of England, Scotland, Kent, Wales, the northeast who were basically living in what looks to us now in 2025 like something out of a Dickensian period in little houses covered in coal dust working in jobs which were so dangerous and many examples are given here of people who died in the mines which really quite frankly you cannot have nostalgia for but they seem to they have that, kind of generations of slaves underground slaves the mistake that was made was not to shut down the mines the mistake that was made was to despise the human group there and therefore not find any replacement job-wise you cannot take away people's livelihood like that completely and do nothing about it this was inhuman inhumane this is where it showed the true evil witch character of the prime minister of the times

Showing the guys getting back there in 2023 was interesting because you see them all probably around the age of 60 or something and they're all fairly well dressed they don't look like they lost you know everything in the war but they still are nostalgic for this which to anybody who doesn't do that job looks like absolutely unbearable conditions of work

So the documentary here is extremely well put together interviewing some of the police people who were there some of them quite shocked by what they were asked to do showing the scam and the lies which them their management and the government forced them into you cannot possibly tell people that you brought three quarters of the police force of England and Wales and that you really meant to be dealing a fair treatment to the people targeted.

After Arthur Scargill and the unions lost to Margaret Thatcher they lost in 1984 and they lost for good after attila the hun in a skirt went by the country was never the same again it is now all about money all about one-upmanship it's not quite the usa but it's trying hard to be I personally lived that entire period in the UK and to this day loath the woman absolutely profoundly loath the woman anybody who is interested in social rights in class struggle in social history will really like this but I still think it is slightly skewed as it is not naming the real enemy that she called "the enemy within" it was not the miners it was socialism she absolutely loathed socialism communism her favorite line was "there is no such thing as society" when you have that kind of belief you can destroy entire communities and not feel a thing and that is the kind of monster we were faced with in 1984 until her being kicked out on the 22nd of november 1990 a day I still celebrate 🙃😉

The makers of this documentary have missed an opportunity to present a balanced view of the 1984 strike. The perspective of the miners is powerfully told, bringing to life the feelings of the miners and their communities, and the divisions between Nottinghamshire and other mining areas. The footage and eye witness accounts of the events at Orgreave tell a powerful story of politicized policing. What is skimmed over is that this strike was called without a ballot. Its aim was paralyze the electricity supply and steel industries, and inflict damage on a democratically elected government with no thought to the impact on other vulnerable citizens through power cuts etc. We needed to hear from the other side of the dispute. Also useful would have been some portrayal of the damage the trade union movement in general was inflicting on the prosperity of the country through the 70's and early 80's. This was a hugely important factor in the decision of the Thatcher government to "bend the rules" to defeat this strike.

Powerful viewing, worth watching, but flawed by it's lack of balance.