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7/10
Enjoyable relationship drama from France
paul-allaer8 December 2013
"Avant L'Hiver" (2013 release from France; 105 min.) brings the story of a married couple, Paul and Lucie (played by Daniel Auteuil and Kristen Scott Thomas, respectively). As the movie opens, we get to know Paul as a successful neurosurgeon who spends too much time focusing on his job and not enough time on his wife. Then one day Paul runs into Lou, a bartender whom he had treated once when she was a young child. It is not long before it becomes clear that Lou (played by Leïla Bekhti) has a strong interest in Paul. Will Paul reciprocate? Meanwhile Lucie needs to deal with her unstable sister Mathilde, and Paul's business partner in his private practice, Gerard, seems to have an unusual interest in Pau's wife Lucie. To tell you more of this plot-heavy movie would surely ruin your viewing experience, you'll just have to see for yourself how it all plays out.

Couple of comments: this is a fairly straight-forward relationship drama, focusing on whether the marriage of Paul and Lucie can survive all of the commotions. Contrary to another reviewer here, I did not experience this movie as a "thriller", slow-burning or not... That aside, I absolutely enjoyed the acting performance of Daniel Auteuil from start to finish. He has a natural ability for these types of roles.

I saw this movie during a recent family visit to Belgium, where it had just opened. The screening I saw this at, a week day matinée, was reasonably well attended. No idea if this movie will ever get a release in the US, be it in theatres or on DVD/Blu-ray, but if you have a chance to see this, I would readily recommend this movie to you.
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5/10
Auteuil and Scott Thomas sublime in slow-burn thriller
prescottjudith4 December 2013
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Novelist turned film-maker Philippe Claudel is covering all bases with Avant l'Hiver (Before the Winter Chill). His third outing as a director is part psychological thriller, part classic love triangle and part domestic drama with Daniel Auteuil once again showing masterly control over a storyline that crawls along at a snail's pace leaving plenty of room for angst ridden introspection and moody silences.

Auteuil is Paul, a 60-something successful neurosurgeon who is married to Lucie (Kristen Scott- Thomas) and BFF with Gerard (Richard Berry). The couple have been married for thirty years and if the union lacks a certain spark, they are happy enough entertaining friends, spending evenings at the opera and weekends with the family. The routine is shattered when Paul starts to receive bouquets of red roses from a mysterious admirer. Suspicion falls on a beautiful, young Moroccan woman Lou (Leila Bekhti), a waitress in a cafe who claims she is one of his former patients. Initially unconcerned by the unwanted attention, Paul gradually becomes intrigued by Lou who reels him in with tales of her difficult childhood and her struggles as an art student in France. Before long, he has left the comfortable family home to spend more time with Lou. Seeing a rift in the marriage, Gerard confesses his love for Lucie who is reeling from the shock of discovering her husband's interest in another woman and the disintegration of her safe, middle class existence. But worse is to come as it becomes apparent Lou is not the woman she says she is.

Putting the French middle class under the microscope is a path well-trodden by, among others, veteran director Claude Sautet – the man behind such classics as Nelly and Monsieur Arnaud and the not dissimilarly titled Un Coeur en Hiver (A Heart in Winter) also starring Daniel Auteuil. But where Sautet cast a non-too critical eye over the lives and loves of the bourgeoisie, Claudel depicts a group of people irritatingly smug in their selfish acceptance of the privilege that comes with their money and status. As Gerard bitterly points out to Paul, his only real problem is that life has been too good to him. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful home and a career where he is admired and respected – an enviable position for most people in the 'autumn' of their existence . And yet he questions whether his life could have been different/ improved. Lucie is a similarly cold, unsympathetic character. Despite a faultless performance by Scott-Thomas, it's impossible to warm to someone who complains her days are long and empty as if the blame lies with someone else. For Paul, Gerard and Lucie, their lives have been about choices and their constant navel gazing seems almost comically self-indulgent. It falls to Bekhti to inject some relief from the suffocating, tangled relationships between the three main protagonists. Unfortunately her character is not consistent enough to offer a fresh perspective on the unfolding drama and she fails to make a real impression.
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7/10
Ice Work If You Can Get It
writers_reign14 May 2014
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Philippe Claudel made a stunning debut with his first feature-length film I've Loved You So Long and has retained some of the elements - not least Kristin Scott Thomas in Before The Winter Chill. In the former movie Scott Thomas played a doctor who'd been struck off the register after the mercy killing of her terminally ill small son; this time around she is the wife of a neuro-surgeon Daniel Auteuil and both are best friends with psychiatrist Richard Berry. Auteuil has contrived to postpone his mid- life crisis until well into his sixties and it takes the shape of a young waitress/whore,Lou, some forty years his junior. This is, of course, plot enough for films set in the world of today but Claudel thickens the broth by straying into David Mamet territory and investing Lou with a mysterious and sinister extra layer or two. All three principals turn in excellent performances and if it fails to eclipse or even equal I've Loved You So Long it comes pretty close.
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Beautiful
searchanddestroy-130 November 2013
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That's exactly what I waited for. Daniel Auteuil is here as excellent as ever. I have always considered him as one of the best french actors ever. The poignant and sensitive tale of a wealthy surgeon who has a boring life, boring wife and family, a job that brings him to burn out and whose fate leads him to meet a young woman.

The following is totally unforeseeable. The relationship that develops between the two of them is not what you might expect. It is so odd that it is impossible to describe. Offbeat at the most, but so pure and beautiful. This is not a romance. Unfortunately, the - near - ending is very abrupt and may disturb the audiences. But it doesn't destroy the story's quality.

It is only unusual, far from you may have waited for in such kind of stories.
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6/10
Baby It's Cold Outside
robinski3422 June 2014
Before the Winter Chill, a domestic drama from three-time writer / director Philippe Claudel (I've Loved You So Long), is immediately watchable for its leads, casting Daniel Auteuil and Kristin Scott Thomas as husband and wife in a story woven around their relationships with each other and those around them. The tale is reasonably diverting, and there is enough going on to keep the viewer engaged for the running time, but the material does not aim much higher than movie-of-the-week melodrama. This it does very well certainly, and Leïla Bekhti gives an affecting performance, but it's unlikely that you'll be raving about Avant l'hiver (the film's original title) to your friends and family. Enjoy 'Before the Winter Chill' for the central performances of Auteuil and Scott Thomas, then check out Guillaume Canet's 'Little White Lies' for some real Gallic fireworks.
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6/10
upper-middle class ennui....
eduardo1007520 June 2016
This film has many fine elements, but suffers from the same ennui as the couple it portrays. I picked this up at my library, and knew immediately I had seen it before, but couldn't remember the end, and had to ride the "fast forward" to get through it! It didn't get better with a second viewing! A bored neurosurgeon "hits a rough patch" with his trophy wife, who sublimates her loneliness with her trophy home and garden! It reminds me of a flaccid remake of Haneke's "Cache", with Auteuil reprising his role as the stone-walling husband, who is smitten by a young Moroccan woman, who may be stalking him with roses instead of surveillance! Kristin Scott Thomas plays the long-suffering wife, instead of Juliette Binoche.

The film also has a couple of disparate elements that could easily have been cut, mainly Lucie's psychotic sister, and a Polish patient's Holocast survival story.

This is a fine distraction, if you have nothing else to watch!
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6/10
The absence of feelings
paul2001sw-110 February 2018
Philippe Claudel's film 'Before the Winter Chill' begins as if it's going to be a drama about a stalker. It then changes tack, and becomes more of a story about a middle aged man becoming involved with a younger woman. He's not exactly looking for an affair, but his interest in her clearly stems from unhappiness in his marriage, which obviously does not benefit from his behaviour. Yet his "care" for the girl is superficial; his real interest is in the effect she is having on him, and he misses things he might have observed. Yet just as this plotline plays out to its conclusion, the movie reveals a final twist. The problem is that all three stories seem weak and underdeveloped; the strength of feelings on display never quite sufficient to wholly motivate the plot. It's not implausible; but its more a film about the absence of feelings, than the presence of them.
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7/10
Working and living
bob99820 September 2015
Altman's The Player had a similar idea: the hero receives messages from a man he believes has a grudge against him, then starts to investigate... The doctor in this film receives flowers every day, and comes to believe that they come from a woman who, he thinks, harbors some grievance. Soon he starts to slump in surgery, his supervisor orders him to take time off, and he finds he has no appetite for anything. I admired Daniel Auteuil's performance very much; he has put on some weight and his eyes have that distant look that means he can't focus on the essential things. His wife, his son and daughter-in-law have needs and he is oblivious to all of it.

Kristin Scott Thomas gives one of her finest performances; she is both suspicious that Paul is cheating and sure that he isn't (not really a paradox). Her eyes are wonderfully expressive. Leila Bekhti didn't really fit in with the story: I didn't get a feeling of menace from her. Richard Berry as the man who never tires of carrying a torch is excellent.
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4/10
Odd film
wisewebwoman22 September 2015
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French Neurosurgeon Paul (Auteil) and his English wife Lucia (Scott Thomas) have a chilly marriage going. Lucia keeps complaining she is not fulfilled, she's bored as if it is all Paul's fault. Their son is grown with a child of his own. Everything appears stilted, strained. It is difficult to engage with them, their lives are so bourgeoisie and privileged.

There's a café close to Paul's office where a young Algerian server - another Lou (Bekthi) - tells him he operated on her as a young girl which he denies as it's not his field of surgery.

That's the set up. Paul starts to stalk her, finds out she's a prostitute and a liar.

I imagine the deeper meaning is that he is hunting for his past but it is all a terrible muddle in the end. The script falls apart in the police station as it pushes the disbelief metre several feet off the ground.

Don't waste your time even though the leads give it their almighty best. It just never gelled for me.

4 out of 10.
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6/10
Well constructed story about a married middle-aged man courting a younger woman, with just enough complications to make it interesting
JvH487 April 2014
I saw this film at the Leiden film festival 2013 (LIFF). This could have been the umpteenth story about a middle aged man courting a younger woman, thereby endangering not only his marriage but also risking the health of his patients while slacking off his daily job as a surgeon. But luckily it is much more, due to some complications interwoven in the script that make it interesting nevertheless.

The daily package of red roses that are delivered throughout the running time of the film, seems important and thus are we eager all the time to know who is behind it. In the end we still wonder who is sending the roses, however, but it does not really matter in hindsight as many other sub-plots take over and keep us interested.

A possible minus point is the shallow role of the surgeon's wife. She has typically not enough on her hands other than waiting for her husband to come home. Her garden is her only daily occupation that keeps her from complete boredom, so it seems. I had assumed more initiative from her side, as she is obviously not the unlearned and meek kind of woman.

All in all, I can only moderately recommend this film. It is not a total failure, however, due to several sub-plots that keeps us interested. But that is all there is. This film ranked a moderate 26th place (out of 55) for the audience award.
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1/10
The usual French drama movie: 100 min lost (web)
leplatypus28 January 2015
I watched it to complete Leila's filmography but this movie is so far her worst participation. It's not that she's bad because for one time she acts beyond her roots but this movie is just meaningless. It collects all the same, old, abused and boring clichés of French drama as it's about the hollow life of a bourgeois couple: we have their total traits: the housewife, the prestigious doctor husband, the tennis matches, the opera, the on shoulders pull, the successful kids and even if they got all this, they feel empty, they are unable to communicate and they want to add fire to their « poor » life. Sure, every body shares this spleen for a perfect life, a life when dreams come true but on the other hand, i really don't care about the bed stories of the bourgeois. It's all the more painful here that practically all the scenes are totally useless as the characters sits, walks, drives alone and in the silence ! Maybe some appreciate this but sorry I skip it
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8/10
Thoughtful exploration of how the past becomes the present
GLanoue3 January 2015
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Avant l'hiver is a charming European film driven by its complex historical subtext revealed gradually by small details of everyday life and by wonderful performances by great actors in 'small', intimate roles in which they asked to convey deeply-felt emotions while staying firmly within the social and moral limits of staid bourgeois lives. This is European film-making at its best, with intelligent people exploring what it means to be settled, successful and bourgeois. But their angst is not about grubbing for money, power and status while losing one's soul, we soon find out. Paul (Daniel Auteuil) is a long-married neurosurgeon married to Lucie (Kristin Scott-Thomas). He begins to receive anonymous bouquets of flowers at work and at home. He suspects a young woman, Lou (Leila Bekhti), who works at his local bistro. Several confrontations occur: in the street, at a florist. She denies everything. It seems inconsequential till Paul sees Lou working the streets as a prostitute around the stadium. He slowly becomes obsessed with her, even breaking into his best friend's Gérard's office, a psychiatrist who Lou is seeing, to find her address. Paul and Lou meet several times. Paul is not interested in sex. Nor is he interested in love; this is not an affair. He hungers more for her past, for her story of how she came to be what she is. Slowly, we learn that she is a French-Algerian raised in France but estranged from her self-centered parents. Paul is drawn to the narrative of her past struggles to find herself. She even at one point reveals that she does work occasionally as a prostitute, who only becomes more intrigued as he comes to see that her complicated present is the natural outcome of her complicated past. Unlike him, Lou is apparently more true to herself despite being on the low end of the social scale: she is a barmaid, a student, a prostitute (or so it seems). He is the alienated one, despite success and a beautiful wife who still loves him. We slowly piece together Paul's hunger for the past through a series of little episodes. The night before he is to operate an old woman, she reveals that she is the sole survivor of a family exterminated by the Holocaust, the daughter of refugee Polish parents who fled to France before the war but who were nonetheless sent to the death camps. She recites the names of her parents, brothers and sister, stating that if she does not survive the operation she wants at least one person to know that these people existed. The next day, he freezes during the delicate operation and is saved by his assistant, who takes over. In another pivotal scene, Paul argues with his best friend Gérard, who reveals what everyone knows: for thirty years Gérard has been in love with Lucie, Paul's wife. We learn that all three met at the same time, but we deduce that Lucie chose Paul while staying close friends with Gérard. There is never a hint of impropriety in their relationship, except one: when Paul breaks into his friend's office to find Lou's address, he finds an old photo of him, his wife and their son. Why does Gérard have this in his desk drawer? He gains access to Gérard's computer by using his son's name. Is the estranged son (Victor) really Gérard's? It seems unlikely, since Lucie is morally upright and supportive of her husband Paul despite his emotional crisis. Later, Gérard tells Paul that if he had one chance to lead his life over, it would be with Lucie. We deduce that Gérard wishes Victor were his son and not Paul's. These plot points, however, are not really about love and success, which could be explored in any intelligent American film analysing professional success and emotional failure. Here, everything pivots on the past and its role in the present. Paul, we learn, is not emotionally distant because of overwork or because he still has a teenage hormonal outlook on women (he never strays sexually from his wife, and when Lou blatantly offers to have sex, he is repulsed by her coarse language, not by the proposition). He is emotionally disconnected to those around him because he in a sense has no past. We learn that Paul is the son of an American soldier temporarily stationed in France who abandoned the family. Paul is essentially an orphan, a foreigner, a bastard, a self-made man who has created a present by hard work that, we learn, never left him enough time to connect to his own family. We also learn that Lou desperately tries to establish her real roots when Paul tracks her down (her name, history, and status as an art history student are all false). In a poignant scene, she insists he listen to an old tape of her mother singing a childhood ditty in French and Arabic. She gives him the tape, asks him to leave and, we learn later, commits suicide. We learn later that she too was an orphan, though a murderous one who sought out lonely and vulnerable men such as Paul to exploit and kill them. Finally, when the old woman survives the operation, Paul recites back to her the names of her murdered family. He smiles, he remembers. He finally has a past, after losing Lou's. The problem, though, is that it is not his. He escapes from a family barbecue to listen to Lou's tape. This I think is the major theme in the film. People who cannot connect to the past cannot live in the present, as the old woman whose past was stolen from her realises. As much as Paul cannot claim his own past, he hungers for other people's stories: he remembers the old patient's story; he is touched by Lou's fictive past; he is curiously attracted to nature and its rhythms of death and rebirth. All in all, a thoughtful film with wonderful actors, script and camera work.
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6/10
Affectionate portrait of a bourgeois marriage
rowmorg3 October 2014
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We watched this slow drama with a mounting sense of bewilderment, wondering what it was really about. It turned out that the neurosurgeon's girlfriend was actually linked to a murder gang that kept elderly men like himself bound up naked waiting for a grim death. This shakes Daniel Auteuil, for whom the young Moroccan woman represented a journey back to his origins. He was able to open up to the young woman in a way that he completely failed to with his wife: a perennial problem with men. Next, she is weeping in her miserable room and giving him a diskette made with her grandmother 20 years earlier. She tells him it's her most precious possession. Next thing, she's lying dead in her bath, suicided. The cops explain to the doctor that she was tortured by his fate, he was being tracked and studied by the gang. At the end, he sits contemplating her voice singing a lovely old love song about "coquelicots" or poppies. It's a haunting film made with loving care and well worth seeing.
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its delicacy
Kirpianuscus6 May 2016
small domestic scenes from a family's every day life. a meeting. and image of a profound crisis. a film who could have different definitions. thriller, crime, art film, psychological. but who remains admirable work for the impeccable performance of Kristin Scott Thomas and Daniel Auteuil. for the image of reality beyond the words. for a form of delicacy in define the events like a painting in water colors. a film about values and about fear to lost sense of life. a film who is really seductive not exactly for story but for details. the last scene is a good example. not different by many films with similar theme, it is really beautiful for the doses of drama and for the inspired use of silence. a film about a family. its crisis. and the hope.
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7/10
Distant Encounters That Draw You In
IanIndependent24 November 2019
Until the final 20 minutes I was watching this drawn by the two main characters. Kristen Scott Thomas and Daniel Auteuil are (as always) superb and their performances rather than the catalyst character, well played by, Leila Bekhti are what keep you engrossed. Scott Thomas and Auteuil are so subtle in their performance that you do feel the emotion, as your own, that which simmers and then manages to just about bubble in both their emotionally closeted worlds. These performances give the revelations revealed or hinted at in the final 20 minutes a lot more power and make what would have been another decent, and very watchable, film about a mature older man becoming obsessed by a young woman and his and his wives helplessness in doing anything about it after too many years wrapped in wealth and family comforts a rather very good film and one that leaves you thinking about consequences and the fallibility of love.
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6/10
Avant le film
klapka19 April 2020
They could've made so much more with this story, but it has no direction, it tries to be profound, but it ultimately fails to. The ending leaves you nowhere, and you ask why you've seen this film? For the cinematics? For the actors? Hmm... For sure not for the incomplete and lack of depth of the script.
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9/10
Unique plot and atmosphere for experienced viewers
jormatuominen8 November 2017
Director Philippe Claudel has also written the script which mixes film genres to great effect. He pulls it off with a most unlikely plot with the help of great acting work from Daniel Auteuil, Kristin Scott Thomas and the sad-eyed and lovely Leila Bekhti. This is a mystery without a crime and a romantic triangle of sorts completely without sex. That alone makes this film unwatchable for many and quite challenging for all. The main character as played by Auteuil is a surgeon of about 60 years whose life has been his work. A chance meeting, as it seems, with a lovely young woman rocks him off his tracks. Auteuil begins to doubt if his life has been meaningful at all and is drawn to the vitality of the young woman who appears to have similar traumas as he has had in his earlier life. At times the audience may be as lost as Auteuil's poor character, wondering what is going on and where on earth is Mr. Claudel taking us. The director was 51 when the film was made, and being about 60 myself I can't help thinking that this film is about aging of men and dealing with it more than anything else. Few have commented on the very difficult role of the tormented siren tempting the aging surgeon. I cannot imagine a better choice for this role than Leila Bekhti, who gives it much more credibility and much more a sense of mystery than it would have on paper. So the ninth point goes for her contribution. If you give Before the Winter Chill your full attention, it will stay on your mind and intrigue you for quite a while.
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Lies, lives and loves.
guchrisc29 May 2014
Daniel Auteuil plays a doctor and Kristin Scott Thomas plays his wife. They lead a rather secluded, rather upper-class existence, in a big house, with a very big garden. He works long hours, she does not. He starts getting flowers sent to him, and who is sending them and why, is the central mystery of the film.

This is a slow film, a very, very, slow film. It starts off slowly with domestic scenes and only picks up very slowly. We are unsure about the central mystery. Different indications suggest different answers and different roads to go down.

Around half-way through the film is an unexpected scene which seem to jar with the rest of the film. It is not the most important scene in the film. However it does introduce an important theme. Although having said this, it does not introduce a development in the plot. As such then, do not expect the little scene to have any greater significance than it has. Do not expect anything more.

Film is rather like real-life. Everyday domestic matters feature strongly in the film. Accidents can happen, mistakes can be made, situations can be misunderstood.

The fragility of life is a central theme of the film. So too are personal circumstances and change of circumstances. Film is about relationships, lies, lives and loves. There is passion but it is very pent-up.

It is a slow film, a little dark, with a few brief life-enhancing moments.

Tip: Opera buffs may understand a mistake. 8/10.
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8/10
Before The Winter Chill
stevemaitland29 December 2018
Daniel Autuiel, Kristin Scott Thomas and Leila Behkti head the cast of this unusual French drama/suspenser where a married, middle aged neurosurgeon (Autuiel) starts receiving anonymous deliveries of flowers at the same time as a young café assistant (Behkti) claims to recall him from an appendectomy operation in her childhood. The neurosurgeon's rather bored wife (Scott Thomas), much like the viewer, doesn't know what to make of it all.

An assured feature from Phillipe Claudel. Wouldn't mind checking out his previous film I've Loved You For So Long.
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9/10
But who sent the flowers?
cyberalpine6 December 2019
Paul keeps receiving wonderful red roses bouquets and wonders who sends them. But the mystery won't ever be lifted.
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