His Dark Materials (TV Series) The Botanic Garden (2022) User Reviews

Nailed it

[lporter27 · 9/10 · 27 December 2022]

The whole books series was an allegory for kids about the loss of childish innocence and learning to live with the consequences of your actions. And in this, the final episode captures it in beautifully staged, heartbreaking detail. Seriously, I was ugly-crying at one point.

The previous episode was the end of the adventure, with the fall of Metatron. This was the post-script, dealing with the end of Lyra and Will's emotional journey into adulthood. So I can see how some might think it wasn't a great ending. But they should go back and rewatch with that in mind. There's a Subtle difference...

It deals with Lyra becoming an orphan. With the elation and heartbreak of first love. And the maturity and self-sacrifice you need to find sometimes, to do things for the greater good. All of these things happen to all of us eventually. And that's what the books try to teach to kids.

Dafne Keen and Amir Wilson act this episode so well, you could almost feel them falling for each other. And equally their hearts breaking as they're torn apart. All credit to them, and the production team for such a fine episode and series. Well done.

I'll rewatch this series for years to come.

A Journey Of Thrills - Season 3 Review

[JoshuaMercott · 8/10 · 2 January 2023]

First Impressions:

Hands down, the best season of the lot. Admirable pacing, attention to detail, and a generous weaving of Pullman's lore made season 3 of "His Dark Materials" fascinating, riveting, and thrilling to watch.

Plot Summary & Deep-Dive:

Including Daemon voiceovers, all the cast brought their A-game to the series finale of "His Dark Materials". They went to war - a highly anticipated scenario, this one - with the kingdom of heaven, as portrayed in Pullman's books where it was led by a proud angel called Metatron (Alex Hassell) claiming to be god.

All the main characters and their Daemons took sides and gathered staunch allies to their respective causes. Even the witches weren't left out of the final fight. The antagonists were anyone who served the Magisterium, which was now led by Father President MacPhail (Will Keen).

Lord Asriel (James McAvoy) played an amazing role this season. While Will Parry (Amir Wilson) was off seeking the lost Lyra Silvertongue (Dafne Keen), Asriel was taking the fight to heaven as the only means to end the threat to 'Dust' and all that it made possible on Earth and other worlds.

Mrs Coulter (Ruth Wilson) was relatively subdued this season, but that only made her seem even more unpredictable and dangerous. Lyra was in her custody and being forcefully safeguarded against the threat of the Magisterium.

As her biological mother, these sequences overtly seemed to add to Coulter's depravity and selfishness. However, her deeply emotive dialogues on motherhood redeemed her character in admirable ways this season.

The severing of one's Daemon, or soul, continued to be one of the prevailing plot-elements. Its dark depths were explored against the backdrop of war and Christianity-inspired tropes.

It was all artfully adapted from Philip Pullman's novels, which themselves are superb, to say the least. I would like to read the books again, it's been a few years since I spent time in Pullman's profound universe.

The separate notions of "death is going to die" and "everyone has a Death" set intriguing precedents going forward. I liked the sinister elements that surrounded the Magisterium's blind belief in Lyra being "Eve", the originator of all sin.

It all made sense to fans like me who have read the books and been with this HBO show from the start. It was smoothly done and contained no fuss or unnecessary deviations from the core plot.

Mary Malone's (Simone Kirby) forays into Pullman's version of the Garden of Eden added to the visual and empathic wonders this season. The elephant-tapir creatures there spoke a language called Mulefa, which was captivating in every way.

Angelic entities - that were technically comprised of Dust - added to the thrill factor. Those who were in on the truth went up against the 'false angel' Metatron (Alex Hassell). The fascination sourcing from these elements was so carefully woven into the plot that the entire season felt credible and seamless.

The romance between Lyra and Will felt forced and received little to no build-up. But it had its share of emotional moments regardless.

Aside from the heaven-and-earth war at the heart of the story, a great many war of words further enriched the plotline and lent a world of importance to the core characters.

Final Notes:

From the Intention Craft's role in the story to Lyra and Will's travel into the Land of the Dead to rescue Roger Parslow (Lewin Lloyd), and more besides, "His Dark Materials" Season 3 delivered on drama, emotion, thrill, love, guilt, faith, unity, prophecy, and fantasy.

Engaging performances, expansive cinematography, great musical scoring, and outstanding editing complemented superb production design, detail-driven costume design, stellar stunts, and excellent VFX. The art direction, set decoration, and hair-makeup teams were also on point. Whatever may have been wrong with season 3, it was too negligible for me to notice.

To call this season epic would be putting it mildly. It was a mic drop for the lore it so far adapted and did justice to. With this set of books now successfully translated to screen, there are other stories from Philip Pullman waiting to come into focus.

I think only the Alethiometer can tell us when and how that particular cloud of Dust will manifest.

Beautifully executed, Bummer ending

[spasticfreakshow · 9/10 · 27 December 2022]

At first I couldn't understand why they started this series again when they'd abandoned the films after the 1st. For those who hadn't read the books, the Golden Compass was so visually appealing and magical, it felt absurd to begin again. (Equally irritating how the book readers halted the Eragon film series after the 1st.) But they did succeed in producing an even finer production with this. Actors, so well cast. Cinematography, costumes, sets, most of the writing/adaptation - captivating, gorgeous. If there is no spinoff or follow-up series, this was, indeed, a depressing ending, and one that didn't really wrap things up for the majority of the wide cast, many of whom we'd come to care about. If it's a jumping off point...well then, I can't wait to see what comes next!

Good, Entertaining, Series!

[rutbuster1 · 10/10 · 4 January 2023]

For those of you that only watch a few episodes, you won't like it. This is a story. You have to watch it from the beginning to the present. You learn the characters and plots. It's similar to Games of Thrones, Walking Dead, Dexter, Sopranos, and etc. My advice is to start from Season 1. It's a series, not one movie. It's excellent except for the delay of one year due to Covid. Start from the beginning. I was doubtful after the first few episodes, but once I learned the characters, the plot, the possibilities, I really got involved. Overall, it's a top notch series and I'm waiting on the 4th season.

Missing the point

[inyrui · 9/10 · 9 April 2024]

A majority of people writing reviews for this episode are so misguided on what this series is about that it's actually depressing. I've lost all faith in general audiences after reading through some of these reviews. I'm not even going to review the episode I just had to leave a comment expressing how dumb you all are. The themes are so clearly telegraphed, the plot threads are all so neatly tied up, the ending is poignant and sad and hopeful. They'll watch Harry Potter and call it a masterpiece and say this shows ideas are half baked? The ideas in this series are so far and beyond anything in 90% of fantasy literature and television. Alright, my rant is over.

The Botanic Garden

[Prismark10 · 6/10 · 14 May 2023]

I thought maybe the final episode of His Dark Materials would end in a crescendo. Even top the fireworks of the previous instalment.

In fact it was a lot subdued as it tried to tie up the remaining loose ends.

What it did was to show why Mary Malone was such an important character. Even though she was in the periphery for a lot of the time.

Writer Jack Thorne brought the essence of Pullman's writing to the finale. Subvert the Adam and Eve story.

Mary Malone is the serpent, her love story persuades Will and Lyra to kiss. The original sin reinvigorates the dust everywhere in all the multiverse.

The banishment is that both Will and Lyra could never live in the same world. Forever destined to be seperated.

At least Lyra was reunited with her dæmon while Will gained one of his own.

I did think the end was a little messy. A bit like the The Return of the King, it could have ended earlier.

Stumbling over the finish line, after crawling the race

[felix-bergman · 6/10 · 27 September 2023]

As a massive fan of the books I haven't been the biggest fan of the series. Even when they do follow the books, it just feels as if the actors and creators didn't have any love or understanding for the source material. The visuals are bland and boring compared to what flares up in my mind when I read the books, but then again I guess I can't really fault them for having a different mental image, but it sure made it that much harder for me to enjoy the show. Season 3 started OK, but quickly fell rather flat. Entire plots from the book is skipped or rushed over so quickly that we can never really grasp them, and at the same time they add new stuff not in the book that dosen't really add anything to the story and mostly just fleshes out bits that were already side bits in the book. As a result we land in the last episode and feel the story is all done.

Now, Love it or Hate it, the book has a rather long cool down at the end after they escape the Land of the Dead and Asriel and Marisa defeats Metatron, but at least for me personally it still has meaning. Having spent a lot more time with both Mary and the Mulefa as well Father Gomez on the hunt, as well as having a better grasp on the importance of such things as daemons, as well as having a completely different relationship with Serafina Pekkala, who is basically two totally different characters in the book and series, means the ending feels more meaningful than what we get here. And even spending a whole hour trying to stretch this ending where half the threes they were going to tie together are cut, they still fail to explain a lot of things. The mention in passing that daemons can't live for long periods of time outside the world they were born in. I've seen several reviews here claim it's stupid how they are being kept apart because deamons clearly can travel to other worlds and it's just the dictatorship of angels and witches. The angles and the witches are NOT the new regime, and in the books we have examples of how living outside your world weakens you. In the series Will's father seems pretty fit and healthy until he dies, but in the books he is pretty much in shambles, about ready to keel over by himself when he dies, after "just" 10 years in another world, having been a fit and strong explorer in the prime of life when he passed over. Also, in the book, the windows don't automatically close when the knife is destroyed, and there is nothing about only the barer being able to close them. Will have to teach the angels how to close them, so that they can make it their task to travel the multiverse and close all of the windows manually. And the witches can't travel between worlds just whenever they fell like it, only the angels can do that.

Despite the many flaws of explanation and pacing, I did think this episode managed to pull itself up slightly compared to the rest of the season. They messed up the first kiss scene in my opinion, as well as the lovers touching each other daemons scene, but then did an at least OK job from there on out, both with the love and the sad goodbyes, though I was thoroughly pissed that they didn't include the scenes in the end when Lyra meets the Jordan headmaster again and really proves in just a few short words (You have to promise to believe me) how much she has grown, and the very last scene in the botanic garden at night, when Lyra says they have to build it where they are.

Bild what?

The Republic of Heaven.

Season Three Review

[southdavid · 5/10 · 10 March 2023]

As someone who watched all three seasons of "His Dark Materials" but hasn't read any of the books, I felt like I was watching a show that wasn't prepared to meet me halfway, but happy to leave me confused and underwhelmed until the final couple of episodes.

With Lyra (Dafne Keen) now being kept safe by her mother, Mrs Coulter (Ruth Wilson) Will (Amir Wilson) tries to use the knife to search for her, however, he's under pressure from two angels to join Lord Asriel's (James McAvoy) army. Will find and liberates Lyra from her mother, who is taken in custody by Asriel's forces but not without cost, as the knife breaks as he tries to use it. When Lyra has recuperated, they set to fixing the knife as she wishes to use it to bring Roger (Lewin Lloyd) back from the land of the dead.

I'm going to say again, I've not read "His Dark Materials" at all. I get that the series is beloved and for some people just seeing it brought to life will be enough, but that's not the position I was in, not at all, and I really don't feel that this season, and the show overall did enough to explain to me what it was actually about. So, I spent the first season going "This is well made, but I've no idea what's going on" and the second going "This is well made, but there's plot here for maybe two episodes rather than seven" I've spent season three going "This is well made, but it's going to end soon, and I still don't feel like the story has started". I suppose, what I was expecting was the promised war between 'god' and his forces, against Asriel and his. I was expecting most of the season to be this, and in actuality Lyra wanders off on another side quest, and the war takes maybe a quarter of an episode.

I do think the visual effects and the performances are quite good and I really liked Ruth Wilson throughout (probably a bit more than I was supposed to) but if you asked me to sum up Lyra's story, or what the show was actually about, or what each character's motivations were, I wouldn't be able to. Despite how well made it is, in retrospect I regret investing my time in it.

world building meets human story

[Rob-O-Cop · 7/10 · 6 January 2023]

Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed this series and the craft of the makers. The world building was fantastic. And I know this was an allegory for innocence love youth and all that, but the last 2 episodes had difficulty messing that with the previous 21 which spent their entirety building a captivating world of armor wearing talking polar bears angels, steam punk tech and religious zeal taken to it's zenith.

And there in lies the problem. I know what the story was an allegory for but, when they spelled it out in the last 2 episodes they undid so much of what came before it. Do we need to know consciously what the original intent was or could they leave it at a more subconscious level and let the world building stand on its own?

The ending was a downer, and it revealed a bunch of wtf plot points. Suddenly the scruffy witch with the eye scar reveals that she was well up on the lore of it all, knew all about the holes between worlds and a bunch of 'why are you telling us this now??" rules.

• Can't live in a world not your own although we've not seen a single sign that this was a problem throughout the series. No one got even the slightest bit ill, but apparently now it;s a thing, in the final episode when Lyra and Will want to be together.

• Got to destroy the knife cos as long as it exists the witches wouldn't be able to seal up world cut leaks and they're bad, so, the knife's got to go, and Will can't be ar$ed popping round his trail sealing them all up properly just so he can keep the knife so they'll accept their one means of getting between worlds must be destroyed.....ok......

• Asriel with his creative steam punk genius makes the coolest Aircraft and even sorts it with rail guns, totally cool, but, he only makes one and everyone else is left on the ground with ww2 rifles as the next best tech, right,......? Absolutely no one on his team or anyone from his world has a craft anywhere near it.

• When did Mrs Coulter develop magic skills on ep 3.7? Suddenly she can knock out all the angels by raising her hands to the heavens and going hmmm despite not once indicating any foundation for this skill in the previous 2.5 series? Where did that come from?

• Lyra and Will go to the land of the dead and find a bunch of people hanging around not actually dead, able to talk to each other, no seeming need for food or water, they're just there, so, kind of better than being dead, and she persuades them to step through a gate into another world and dissolve into .... ash? Like, is that really a better option? I'd personally need some more convincing, a bit more information about what I was stepping into. What are my other options, maybe I'll hand around for a bit more and chat to some of these people for a while, no rush and all that, might even find another option?

These problems all came in the final 3 episodes, while the previous 20 were great. Was it because the previous 20 didn't try about the mythology of this world because to do so would unravel it. Why do they travel in Zeppelins in Lyra's world? We don't have to know. You don't have to explain it, so don't try to.

So that's why the end of this series gets a 7 from me. The series over all is an 8 or a 9 because it was so well made and acted. I haven't read the books so I can't say that the landing was fluffed or not, as it might be there in the 'dark materials' to begin with. What ever the reason the ending wasn't as satisfying as the rest of the show has been for me, but I can forgive that.

A beautifully made series none the less.

Not all stories have a happy ending

[eriklundmark-97379 · 5/10 · 23 January 2023]

I enjoyed season 1 and 2 way more than season 3.. some episodes were good and some were really bad. Unfortunately the last episode sucked, I was waiting for the twist that made it possible for Will and Lyra to be together in the end. It never happened and yes I know this is from a book which I never read but still I just hoped for a happy ending. Last season was overall just a big fuzz and most of it made little to no sense. But I been watching since 2019 and I just wanted to know how it ended.

Overall I give the series a 6/10 just because of the last season. I know its hard to end a series and it often just gets rushed and so did the last season of His dark materials feel. Rushed and a lot of bad scripting.

Just writing this review fresh of watching the last episode so might be a little negative because of the ending.

Can't help but feel that Lyra & Will got screwed over

[ksdouglas-23618 · 4/10 · 8 December 2023]

Bruh... what the heck was that!?

Right away when the angel and witches were "explaining" their "reasons" on why Will and Lyra must separate and rewrite their own worlds, I sensed a lot of nonsense.

I agree %100 that the angles pretty much did not want anyone but themselves to travel the worlds and not the knife bearer. Despite the fact that Will had closed his portals, somehow the issue is that previous knife wielders have left their own portals open, (but I don't get why or how this is issue toward the angles, who admitted that they can close the portals all by themselves and could have been doing that all along anyway, but to do so the knife must be destroyed to make their jobs easier, which doesn't make sense).

Then again, wasn't this the knife bearer's entire POINT. To close the portals of the worlds, but the angles come out of nowhere and go "oh yeah, we could've been doing this all along, but...yeah. That knife's gotta go!"

The truth was that the blade itself was a threat to them and they wanted it out the picture.

So suddenly people who travel to other worlds cannot reside in those worlds, because they're daemons would get sick and die. Okay...somehow this is a rule that's never been mentioned before. And we have little to no evidence to support this being the case.

I can go on but all I've got to say is that this ending felt more like the angles who are in charge after Metatron's defeat are solidifying their own power in the new regime.

Ends on a limp

[Rich-91749 · 1/10 · 3 July 2023]

Presumably the show runners were hamstrung by bad writing in the original book but this entire episode is absolutely full of contrivances and macguffins that are basically necessary to get the ending they wanted when it hasn't been naturally setup by the story.

Barely anything really happens in this final episode and I can't help but feel like they could have done a 5 minute montage and voice-over at the end of the previous episode to deliver ultimately the same outcome but without wasting another hour of our lives.

Genuinely a pretty bland and boring 1/10 episode of tele that I only sat through to see if anything actually does happen (it doesn't).

MASSIVE PLOTHOLES

[chrisvallyon · 3/10 · 10 January 2023]

Will has reforged the knife once before using nothing but a woodfuelled campire and shear willpower. He can't do that again??

If the knife breaking closes the rifts between worlds, how come that didn't happen the first time he broke it?

Can't travel to another realm with your daemon? Well we saw that happen regularly, so that's just a lie.

And that's the only way to read this. A lie. The new rejime has won it's coup d'etat. The surviving witches and angels of the new regime want to prevent Will and Lyra from becoming a threat. So they do this by separating them and locking them back in their own worlds. They destroy the blade to keep their own monopoly on travel between worlds.

It's a repeated theme that rebellion is sparked by rejimes who don't care about people's wellbeing. And yet, the new rejime doesn't allow Will and Lyra to be happy for even a day before screwing up their lives.

Very unsatisfied that these two chose to live life in misery rather than call BS the moment the new regime proved to be just as bad as the authority, because it didn't care about their wellbeing at all. Clearly Will and Lyra are nothing like their parents.

These two would rather die alone in servitude than think for themselves and be happy together? That's not true love. I guess they learned nothing at all. Shame.

Disappointed

[biacross · 3/10 · 21 February 2023]

I loved the whole series. Such a spiritual perspective. I was hooked when we first came across dust. And then with metatron and the limbo purgatory, and that release into the creation and oneness, was truly beautiful to watch in a mainstream show.

And then to finish it with religion dogma and separation... I couldn't believe it.

Either, as someone suggested here, the witches and angels were plotting from the beginning and lied to Will and Lyra (I mean how come you can't live on another world? Will's father did it, and the whole series is based on this) in order to keep them separated and ignorant(which it could be quite brilliant cause that is what happens in the actual world with religions and any 'authority'),or this is really another senseless show of big productions.

Disappointed but not surprised xD.

Nah man this finaly is so dumb

[arcada-34999 · 4/10 · 25 December 2022]

Right, they went on this whole shpiel about how love is the key, to discover love is to live, dare to live!! And then they told them actually they couldn't love each other. And now they have to live alone until they die when they will finally be able to see each other as dust like what. Because theres some things you cant change, but they just spent all this time talking about how you have to dare to live, like what is this feel bad rubbish I don't wanna feel bad, why do these tv shows and book series always insist on making it a depressing ending the world is sad enough already just make it happy like why... honestly I liked this tv show, and I wont be petty and give the whole show a bad review but this final episode was just a bad ending. Also falling in love doesn't happen this quickly and if they were actually in love I guarentee Will would have burned the world to be with Lyra so obviously good old phillip doesn't know jack about love, anyway, the whole thing about Will going back to love his mum is also stupid, ok sure love ur mum but it's just not at all the same love...0/10 episode but 1 star for vfx 1 star for the bear as always and 1 star for the funny elephant animals bcs I loved them and 1 star for the rest of the tv show, shoddy ending STOP THE SAD STUFF NO ONE WANTS TO BE SAD ANYMORE OK! And I KNOW this is all based on the book series, which I have actually also read, still don't care for it, change the ending no one wants this sad ending rubbish. Both Lyras parents die, her best friend is killed by her dad, who then sacrifices himself for her, and her mum also dies, then her first and apparently only love will she has to leave forever in a different universe like why have then done her so dirty.

long and unnecessarily drawn out, but given the source material...

[cuvtixo-13 · 5/10 · 27 December 2022]

Already you can find reviewers who were frustrated with this episode, but I think it deserves a little more credit, just a little. One problem is that it could have just ended with the previous episode, which would leave some questions and hanging plot points, but I've gotten used to series ending like that by now. It's a regular occurrence now when funding another season is possible, but not certain. I also think the writer(s?) were nervous about the anti-church, anti-religion tone, and felt they needed to sledgehammer in the messages of romantic love, including same-sex love, and other secular warm fuzzies. I kept waiting for someone to be killed or at least seriously injured in this episode, and without totally spoiling, let's just say you'll be waiting a long time if you had the same expectations. It might have been better just to leave the audience uncomfortable with the message against organized religion ringing loud in the end, basically as the previous episode did. Other than that, it was fairly well done and probably truer to the Amber Spyglass, which I haven't read, but know it anticipates further writings at the end. (If the other books do get green-lit for filming, I expect an entirely, or nearly entirely different cast, at the very least). Apparently many readers were also frustrated at the third and final book, so you can probably assume that this episode has the same faults, and it was probably the best possible depiction given the source material. If you go in with low expectations, it probably won't be so painful. Personally, I was so glad when the ending finally came just so it would be over with.

Worst series ending ever! Season 3 useless! Waste of time!

[raul_has · 1/10 · 15 January 2023]

Invested so much in this series! Amazing first 2 seasons! Season 3 was a waste of time for all involved! So bummed out!

I cannot believe how bad was the screenplay, dialogue, characters!

Something that was supposed to be great storytelling transformes into proper garbage!

Very dissapointed how this has wrapped up! Unbelievable how HBO let this crap to be released to the public. It is a dishonor to the author, to the books, to the audience.

Don't make the same mistakes I did, stop watching! Better read the reviews, it will tell you what you need to know.

I am truly sad with how the series evolved!

The Serpent

[claudio_carvalho · 5/10 · 26 April 2023]

Lyra and Will walk through the world where Mary Malone looking for their daemons and hunted down by Father Gomez. They stumble upon Mary, who tells them a love story why she gave up being a nun. Lyra and Will feel desire for each other and later they meet Pantalaimon and Kirjava. Their act stops the flow of Dust and save the worlds. But there is a price to pay.

"The Botanic Garden" is the last episode of this awful Third Season of "His Dark Materials". The First Season tells the story of "The Golden Compass" (2007) with many details and is great. The Second Season is reasonable and not so good. However, this Third Season and the conclusion of the plot is terrible and a waste of time. Dafne Keen and Amir Wilson are expressionless and show no chemistry, and the love scene is ridiculous. Will had no daemon but when he crossed by boat to the world of the dead, he left his soul behind that now it is a daemon. Rule of the game. But he becomes a doctor in a world where there are no daemons. It is funny a surgeon operating a patient with a cat (Kirjava) in the waiting room. The subplot with Father Gomez is absolutely unnecessary. Mary's romance is also unnecessary the way it is. She could act like a serpent in a different way. The conclusion of this juvenile series is one of the worst I have ever seen. My vote is five.

Title (Brazil): "The Botanic Garden"

Very inconsistent writing, this episode along with the entire season 3 ruined this once amazng show.

[vanja-pletikosic · 1/10 · 26 February 2023]

The first two seasons were well written and I generally liked them and enjoyed the show. Season 2 wasn't perfect, it had its flaws, like the fact that it was never explained how Azriel managed to go through so many worlds without his technology and how he managed to escape the spectres without being killed and also how he had such a huge headstart compared to Lyra and Will. By the time we see Azriel in season 2, he has an army and has travelled to many worlds, which is a bit of a stretch compared to how the struggled to go to the first world. And him killing Roger is only brushed off by his one sentence of saying he killed an innocent boy for no reason.

The end of season 2 is kind of dumb when I now think about it. Serafina Pekalla goes off to save Lee, but for some weird reason doesn't make it in time. Will's father finds Will and somehow forgets that he is being chased by soldiers, which in turn results in him getting killed. They could have kept moving, knowing they are in danger and had a conversation once they knew they were safe. That is what any sane person would do.

Season 3 is just bad writing. Or bad source material. Not sure which, but there are many plot holes and inconsistencies. I would forgive or simply can't remember most of those until episode 7, when Azriel and Ms. Coultier grab ahold of Metatron and plunge to their deaths. I guess the writers forgot that this guy is an angel and can fly to avoid dying. Who is the angel that Will and Lyra released from that box? We will never know. Ms. Coultier can just destroy spectres with the power of her thoughts, I guess she is a witch now or something.

Episode 8 is rubbish. Other reviewers already described it. The thing to repair everything was just about Will and Lyra falling in love? They had been falling in love since they met. So they didn't need a "serpent" to tell them to take risks for love, they had already been doing that. And yeah, as soon as this war for free will is won, Will and Lyra are told that they actually can't have free will and have to do as they are told and spend the rest of their lives apart, because apparently people can't live in other worlds, except Will's father apparently and the black guy who kept going back and forth between Will and Lyra's world, I forgot his name, the one that Ms. Coulter poisoned.

And breaking the knife will close all of the opened doors between worlds. Sooo I guess they are already closed as the knife was already broken? Or no, the plot needs this to be the case now, so now it will close all the doors... And angels can only close the doors once the knife is broken? And Will and Lyra just listen to that and agree to it? Nonesense. Why was it ok for them to travel between so many worlds in order to save the multiverse, but now they are no longer allowed? How is their love going to save the multiverse if they aren't allowed to love each other while being together?

Honestly I didn't even manage to watch this last episode until the end because of how stupid and dissapointing it made me feel about this entire show now.

What a waste of time for this ending.

[tpaktopa-28544 · 2/10 · 27 December 2022]

3 seasons and 3 years to watch the episodes for an ending like this? It's a total waste of time, sorry. I don't know how this passed all the reviews, producers and so on.

3 seasons and 3 years to watch the episodes for an ending like this? It's a total waste of time, sorry. I don't know how this passed all the reviews, producers and so on.

3 seasons and 3 years to watch the episodes for an ending like this? It's a total waste of time, sorry. I don't know how this passed all the reviews, producers and so on.

3 seasons and 3 years to watch the episodes for an ending like this? It's a total waste of time, sorry. I don't know how this passed all the reviews, producers and so on.

it's all about selling the mantra of sexuality

[carlmov · 2/10 · 17 January 2024]

So, another main message of the writers and this is also part of the bigger plan to brainwash people starting from early schooling, that sex in any way is key to happiness! I mean it is evident that the hollywood establishment with the collaboration of the illuminati want to attack on every Christian value, ridiculing the impact original sin, and taking it away from it's theological context by blaming the Creator for all our human misery. Sexual freedom and expression has become the crux of the New Age ideology where happiness and the end of human suffering is by being sexually liberated and abandoning all forms of religious faith particularly Christian faith. All rebellious behavior justifies this end and brings peace to the world. And Mary's action in removing her cross (as it falls from the bed) is just the exact action that the producers want people to do in order to gain their freedom! This whole scheme that is placed on a high-speed-train of globalization where in the New World Order, to have peace and happiness we are to leave religious values behind and focus on individual freedom and liberty at the expense of familial values and "gone-by" old traditions. So, they want us to rebel and distract us from using our senses to question their motives, i.e., Eve's disobedience in the Garden of Eden is a forbidden subject to discuss and anyone posing question will be either removed or ridiculed or if necessary prosecuted for disturbing the peace. Make no mistake, in a blink of an eye, sooner that anyone would expect, these ideas will invade every home, every family, every city, and it has started already in the US, and parts of Europe. If you think I am naïve, look around, if you are not seeing it, or you think this is not a top conspiracy to change the world, think again and wait few decades and see for yourself is you are still here.