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9/10
The series led to this moment !
tristan_1913 December 2022
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Is Mrs. Coulter getting one of the best redemption stories ever ? Her storyline peaked in this episode as she walked right into the lion's den like a freaking howitzer to save her baby daughter ! Marisa's resolve is unbelievable, and her stand against the Authority and Father McPhail was astounding. The show finally brought back these emotions that made HDM special. You could root for her and despise the opposition at the same level, because the writing is excellent.

Lyra's journey is intriguing and brought so many questions and dilemmas into the mix. It was so deep and thoughtful and there wasn't one clear cut answer. The idea of ¨killing¨ your main character in the middle of your final season would be absolutely awful in most shows. But it kinda fits the tone of HDM.

You get the sense it is more of a philosophical death. And could they come back ? The question is very much in the air. I felt like I was watching Deathly Hallows Part 2 in King's Cross or something. Like the choice is there and all, and it's the protagonist who has to go through the journey at his own pace and rythm.

I bawled like a baby at the end. The final 5 or 10 minutes are absolutely heartbreaking and brought the season to a high. The choice of leaving Pan is hitting like a ton of bricks. It ponders the question... Would you really go to ¨save¨ your friend who is already dead ? Would you sever yourself and your identity because you feel guilty like that ? It is a grey area and brings forth the themes of guilt and conscience and self. Like, in reality, you shouldn't give yourself away and lose the remaining of your life in grief and distress, and forfeit it so you forget to be. But it isn't easy.

This episode is unique and memorable in the scope of the series. I feel it defines and will continue to define the show long after its end. This episode is really a matter of CHOICES and redemption. It is sad, as well as it is enthralling. Lyra is quite the hero and Mrs. Coulter is becoming one too. Will is solid and Pan is just the best...
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8/10
Ruth Wilson Rocks
Pomplemoose-Pass15 December 2022
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Mrs Coultre steals every scene she's in and is the heart of this show; when she's on the screen you can't take your eyes off her. I loved her in Luther and even more in HDM. Lyra and Will - not so much. They're okay but honestly I find them a bit gormless. In fact, I am beginning to find Lyra's character more and more annoying and preferred her character in the earlier seasons. I mean, who would sever themselves from their own daemon to save a dead friend? Couldn't she just have gone to a medium instead? It would have been a lot less hassle! Her galactic stubbornness means she went against all cautionary advice to have her way, so naturally she had to reap the consequences of her actions with the heartbreaking ending of this episode.

For a while I really thought Will would play the saviour and go in her place to find Roger so when Lyra turned around after making her choice to leave Pan, he would be gone with the boat. But no, he didn't do it and instead just sat there and watched the wrenching drama with that gormless expression - what kind of hero is that? Perhaps it all ties in in the end, or perhaps Lyra and her mother are going through a parallel reality of daemon severance. Father President btw is getting more unhinged with every episode as he creates his weapon of mass destruction to rid the world of sin. Mrs. Coultre discovers his plot but makes the wrong move! If it was me, I would have exchanged the hair with someone from the Magistarium like Father Gomez but that didn't happen either. Where is this going? We'll find out in due course. In spite of all that, this season has far more gripping moments than the previous and I'm much more into it than before.
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6/10
Lyra and Her Death
Prismark1022 January 2023
I find as we reach the midpoint to the final series. The third novel is not easy to adapt.

This can be seen in the Land of the Dead. Will and Lyra are in some bureaucratic purgatory but without the sly humour you would get from Terry Gilliam or Tim Burton.

However Lyra gets sidetracked to help someone called Roger. It means she has to make a sacrifice, be severed from her daemon, Pan.

It was an emotional parting of the ways. So well performed by all concerned.

All this is no match for the fireworks caused by Mrs Coulter. The scenes with her at the Magisterium's headquarters bristle with venom.

Mrs Coulter challenges and is openly contemptuous of Father MacPhail. He is left shaking and angered in disbelief.

The Land of the Dead scenes are hard to fathom, as you wonder if Will and Lyra really are dead.
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6/10
Crossing to the Land of the Dead
claudio_carvalho24 April 2023
Lyra and Will learn that, to cross to the Land of the Dead, Death should take them to the boatman. Lyra summons her Death against the advice of Will and Pan, and she takes them to the boat area. However, the boatman tells Lyra that Pan is not allowed to cross with them. Meanwhile, Mrs. Coulter returns to the Magisterium and tries to convince MacPhail that she can protect her daughter from the temptation. However, Dr. Cooper has developed a DNA bomb using Lyra's hair and MacPhail will not give up his intentions.

"Lyra and Her Death" is an episode of "His Dark Materials" where few things happen. The histrionic Dafne Keen and the expressionless Amir Wilson are important part of this episode; however, they are terrible actress and actor that never change their faces and Lyra frequent scream is annoying. The segment with Mrs. Coulter and MacPhail is the best part of the show. The importance of Mary Malone in the story is not clear until this moment. My vote is six.

Title (Brazil): "Lyra and Her Death"
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4/10
Disappointed in Lyra
danijelabiresdesign24 December 2022
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Up until this episode I loved this tv show. I watched it with excitement and the characters, plots were great but until this episode. Everything was okay-ish as it was through whole season but Lyras choice to get separated from her deamon made me wish to slap her on the face. While everyone is fighting for their lives, to keep her little ass safe, she rush to the land of the dead so she can oh bo ho say sorry to Roger for him dying. What a fork! She found Roger more important then Pan? Pan is part of her soul how can she do this to him just so she feel guilt for not saying goodbye to Roger??? What a fork! Like why is her guilt more important then anyone else? More important then her own deamon? Up until this moment it was good tv show but this part made me feel terrible and to wish just to stop watching it. The script for this is deserving 0 rate while tv show overall 8... ill still think about if i should keep watching because it became irritating...
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1/10
Rodger now messing things up from beyond the grave...
jake_lfc3 January 2023
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Absolutely hated this episode. Lyra's character is now completely selfish to the point where I'm no longer rooting for her. How on earth after all she's been through, can she just decide to split with Pan and travel across to the land of the dead.

And for what? So she can go and see bloody Rodger...

Ruth Wilson is of course superb, as always. Though how she keeps earning enough trust to get what she needs, despite a track record of deception, is beyond me.

Really enjoyed seasons 1 & 2, but really falling out of love with the series so far, very much hoping the higher rated later episodes can bring this back around.
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4/10
Who the hell cares about Roger
Ar_Pharazon_the_golden14 January 2023
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The series was already stretching it really thin by insisting that everyone who meets Lyra is immediately amazed, even though she has shown almost nothing to prove she's special apart from magically being able to read the thingamajing. It was kind of nice how the only one seeing she is a sham was her father, but now, it finally gets too far.

For a few episodes now, Lyra has decided that she must drop everything and go to the land of the dead to chat with random guy that we are told was really important to her. Now she also decides that this is the single most important thing ever, so she must abandon her daemon in order to maybe speak to dead rando. Her main argument seems to be 'we can't go back now, we already came all this waaaaaaay'.

I assume the book is more convincing as to why this is if not THE MOST, but even at least a tiny bit important, as well as to why no one has yet actually killed Mrs Coulter, but the series just has an increasingly annoying protagonist who does one stupid thing after the next, is ungrateful, manipulative and frankly, the story would probably be better without her in the way.
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1/10
Definitely the worst episode so far
Rich-9174919 June 2023
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Bit of a nothing filler episode.

Mrs Coulter remains an interesting character but Lyra's storyline is so convoluted and full of macguffins that it barely makes any sense. It seems like the writer just wanted to get to her to the land of the dead someone and it have some weight to it and wrote backwards from there. Also her motivations are beyond idiotic. She needs to risk her life, her friend's life and permanently separate herself from her demon just to go speak to someone that's already dead. Why?

The final scene is clearly supposed to be emotional but the plot is so nonsensical that I felt absolutely nothing.
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1/10
I'm so close to stop watching this show
maestro611414 June 2023
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I'm watching the show because I don't wanna leave it so close to the end, but I've less and less desire every next episode. I haven't read the books, so I'll comment only the show. NO ONE CARES ABOUT ROGER! It is becoming annoying the situation with Roger, and the Lyra character if you ask me. The plot has become so branched that it lost its purpose. There is no main story anymore. Lyra became some spoiled, out of control, self centered child so much that I don't see her as the good guy since season 2. To be honest, I'm seriously considering for supporting the magisterium to evaporate her. Plot holes as much as you want. Final review will have 10.000 caracters, not 600.
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1/10
The hideous Lyra!
elfelf6665 February 2023
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Total disappointment. Lyra's stupid behavior, irritating, thoughtless, idiotic! I want her to stay in the land of the dead and the series to continue without her. Redundant characters, clunky development, stupid ideas. The uniq knife was fixed in the previous episode! Easy peasy! A knife forged at the atomic level! Hahahaha! The only good thing about this season is that I didn't have to pay to watch it. Total waste of time! She found Roger more important then Pan? Pan is part of her soul how can she do this to him just so she feel guilt for not saying goodbye to Roger??? What a fork! Like why is her guilt more important then anyone else? More important then her own deamon? Up until this moment it was good tv show but this part made me feel terrible and to wish just to stop watching it. The script for this is deserving 0 rate while tv show overall 8... ill still think about if i should keep watching because it became irritating...
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5/10
Becoming too convoluted
arndt-pawelczik20 December 2022
I tried reading the books twice and gave up halfway through just as many times. Now watching the third series I see why. The whole thing is getting way too convoluted, new characters keep being added, the religious overtones become more prominent and I am losing interest once again. The worst thing is that I no longer understand the characters' motivations. Everything seems to be either random or faux-deep. This is annoying, because I loved the first two series. But in episodes three and four of series nothing seems to be moving. Everybody is stuck in some place. Mrs Coulter benefits from people falling for her duplicity again and again. And why? Because of her lascivious pout? It is a shame, really. I can see myself not liking the last episodes.
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4/10
Just like "Lost" tv series - no polar bears, no fun.
wideboygeorge28 December 2022
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Maybe the book has more time to develop characters and changes. I've lost any empathy for the characters and am past caring what happens to them. Mrs Coulter switches sides faster than a wartime double agent and each side pretends to lock her up and then try to kill her 'Bond villain' style. Failing. Obvs. Then a 'welcome back' from the other side... ?Asriel lacks any judgement, makes bad decisions by himself and always seems to start each scene rolling out from underneath some equipment or finishing off a bit of mechanics and moving onto prevarication by saying decisions should be referred to 'council'. Council consists of the 3 people already in the room (one of whom leads a group who didn't even know of multiple worlds until they came to Asriel's). Lyra and Will have clearly matured since first two series and lost any semblance of acting talent. Both could easily have been bumped off ages ago before choosing a cruise round death-land. Lyra seems to change outfits every day despite carrying a small day pack. Just like the polar bear which lost and got armour in a day. The cgi for daemons and monsters is pretty good though.
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5/10
It's getting way too dark
maldendorff15 January 2023
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This episode was way too dark for me.

Why is Lyra choosing dead Roger over her daemon Pan? Going through all that trouble for this just doesn't feel right. And it doesn't make sense.

I really loved the beginning of the series with a Lyra you could trust and believe in with an important and good goal. That sympathy is getting less and less.

And it felt like there was light at the end of the tunnel.

But now everything has gone quite dark for the last few episodes. And it makes me feel very eerie and disappointed.

I'm hoping it'll get lighter again as now I'm not really looking forward to the next episode... Such a shame...
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