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9/10
Galileo in Space
alexwoolcott28 August 2010
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I'm going to go out on a limb and cite "Distant Origins" as one of the strongest episodes of the entire series. Although the central premise is a bit of a leap (dinosaurs evolved on a separate heretofore unknown continent, developed space faring technology and fled 65 million years ago), this remains a strong and compelling episode, mostly because of it parallels not only historical events but modern ones too.

The strongest feature of this episode is the fact that the story is almost exclusively told from the alien's point of view; the Voyager crew are almost secondary to the story. The aliens, called Saurians, are determined to prove a connection between their race and the dinosaurs of Earth, an idea which flies in the face of his society's accepted doctrine. This event and the subsequent trial leads to numerous parallels with Martin Luther, Galileo, Darwin, Copernicus and even Einstien (who was called upon to defend relativity on numerous occasions).

Although there's a bit of speechifying in this episode, it's almost always deserved and the only shame is that they didn't stretch this episode into a two-parter. There was enough potential drama here for a much longer story and it's a shame that the writers had to cram everything into a single show. Also, kudos must be given for being rather clever in the creation of the Saurian culture. Despite technological advancements (all designed with the Saurian's specific physical needs in mind) they are ultimately closed minded racists (they hate mammals and members of one tribe can only marry members of another specific tribe). Too often, races in Star Trek are either benevolent or evil: it's a pleasure to see one that has more shades of grey Finally, the episode also provides an interesting insight into Voyager's environmental footprint on the Delta Quadrant - aside from their technology, they're leaving a lot of themselves behind. This opens questions as to the long term implications of their journey and of space exploration in general (something we presently don't always consider as we venture to Mars and beyond)
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9/10
Wow...now THIS is creative!
planktonrules20 February 2015
"Distant Origin" is a highly creative episode--perhaps the most creative in the series. It begins with a molecular paleontologist, Gegen, finding remains of the human killed in the season 2/season 3 cliffhanger episodes "Basics". He brings these to show his superiors on Voth--but they don't want to hear about his research and his crazy theory. What is this crazy theory? That his race and that of the body parts they found have a common ancestry--so a reptilian species and a mammalian one are, in fact, cousins of sorts.

To prove his theory, Gegen and his research assistant go in search of the ship from which this dead man originated. Soon they find Voyager and use their advanced cloaking technology to sneak aboard the ship. Unfortunately, the crew are able to detect their presence and soon an unexpected first contact occurs.

Up until this discovery, you never seen or hear anything from the viewpoint of the Federation--it's all Voth. I don't think another episode has been done like this. Additionally, what happens AFTER is something that was really creative and makes this a must-see episode. I nearly gave this one a 10, but it did seem a tad preachy late in the show.
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9/10
Creative twist on a classic debate
Hughmanity18 December 2020
This episode covers the classic battle between scientists with new learning and religious obstinacy or "doctrine" as it's referred to here.

What's great about this episode is how cleverly it brings this debate into play. For the first ten minutes we don't even see the Voyager crew. only the Voth archeologists and their discovery of human remains. They take a scientific approach to uncovering the mystery of "Voyager" and the ultimate interaction between the Voth scientists and Voyager crew is both fascinating and humorous at times.

Just a great job of writing this episode and the casting and acting of the Voth. The Viyager crew does their usual great job as well and this episode is up there with the best of Star Trek.
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10/10
Reality in Space
Hitchcoc27 August 2018
This is a really well thought out and "realistic" offering. A couple of Saurian paleontologists from Voth have theorized, with great evidence, that their race originated on Earth during the time of the dinosaurs. But because they have a leadership that doesn't allow for challenges to its dogma, they are seen as threats. They escape in a ship and locate Voyager, the inhabitants of which will provide evidence of their theories. All that said, millions of years of entrenched dogma are hard to overturn through evidence and power loves to keep power. One of the very finest of the Voyager series.
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10/10
Great Day In Space
Bolesroor2 February 2011
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Finally, a Trek-like episode of Voyager!

A Voth scientist learns his dinosaur-like species originated on Earth, but the bureaucracy of his government will not allow the truth to come out. We begin the episode following the Voth, a nice narrative change from the traditional episode- and done gently enough that it's not a jarring shock. Watching the two scientists explore Voyager is a nice return to the sense of wonder and open-mindedness upon which Trek was built. When WE'RE the aliens, everything looks different...

This story also plays well as a metaphor for a government cover-up of alien existence and for humanity's own question of origin. Strange how the show gets better when they lay off the horror and death and focus on sci-fi and story... think they'll remember that for future episodes?

This is as good as Voyager has gotten.

GRADE: A-
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10/10
Pitching a throbbing science tent right in your fiction.
RogerBorg8 January 2022
Veteran Trek Director David Livingston is given a try at writing, and he transwarps it out of the park.

This is the hardest science that I've ever seen inserted in Star Trek's fiction, an absolutely fascinating episode that clearly references the inquisitional trial of Galileo Galilei, with added dinosaurs. It even holds true to the result and consequences of Galileo's persecution, a bold move for a mass appeal show.

There's even a delightful nod to Larry Niven's "Known Space", letting you know that Livingston is absolutely on top of the canon.

If you have the slightest interest in science fiction, even if you have no interest in Voyager, or in Star Trek, this episode is required reading as a standalone flash of genius.
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10/10
Greatest Episode!
edwoodashton14 April 2013
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Without question my favourite episode so far.

What does it for me is how the two Voth study the humans and make such nuanced observations based on scientific principles. Firstly through the dead body, the bones, the clothes, and then when the go to Voyager and start to observe them. The part where they are watching Tom and Balana was one of the funniest things in any Star Trek!

You see, this all sets up science as the solid foundation to make reliable claims based on reason. Then they show how reason is smashed to pieces by power struggles within unreasonable, dogmatic cultures that use unverifiable doctrine as there scaffold.

Great stuff! Really powerful Classic narrative with a modern theme, spaceships, and unusually high quality acting. Yippee!!!
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10/10
Superb!
clouseau-410 March 2014
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I had missed this episode when the show first aired, and I'm happy to have been delighted when watching it recently for the first time.

This episode really shines and shows the kind of thought provoking concepts and ideas, Star Trek, and science fiction in general, can deliver when executed properly.

It's amazing how many concepts the writers managed to include in one single episode which doesn't feel rushed at all:

1) A novel explanation of an advanced species descended from dinosaurs 2) A species far more advanced than our own yet sharing the same societal problems as we do 3) The city ship, a very interesting addition to the Trek Universe 4) A vastly technologically superior foe that Janeway has no chance of defeating or even matching 5) The trial of Galileo in space 6) Aliens studying us like we study lower life forms in laboratories.

This episode shares a few things in common with the episode "Scientific Method," from season 4. Both episodes are first rate.

In particular, the dialog and acting of the Voth scientist and his assistant were very well done. They radiate intelligence and scientific curiosity.

The resolution was also well done with no Deus ex machina making a last minute appearance. Chakotay gives an impassioned plea for the triumph of reason over orthodoxy, but just like on our world, the powers that be could care less about truth. They care more about maintaining their power and the status quo.
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9/10
What a bizarro plot
grotsky_af13 November 2020
You would think "Voyager finds a race of super-smart dinosaurs who left Earth millions of years ago" would end up being dumb or corny like so many of the other more out-there episodes of the show, but everyone involved really went off. The writing is relatively grounded, there's a clear ethical message (trust science!!), and the acting and prosthetics are both killer. Also, is this the best Chakotay episode? The only other one that comes to mind is "Shattered", from season 7, which I also love. And "The Fight", of course (jk kimora).
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7/10
An alien point of view
Tweekums10 January 2010
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This episode is rather unusual in that it is centred on a pair of alien archaeologists who have found the remains of a member of the Voyager's crew and are shocked to learn that it's DNA suggests that the aliens must share a common ancestral planet. This find suggests their belief that their species evolved elsewhere is correct and the orthodoxy that they evolved locally and are the oldest species in that area of space are inaccurate. As their views are considered heretical they try to find living people. A part of the remain's uniform leads them to seek and eventually find Voyager. They board Voyager thinking their cloaking technology will prevent them being seen but it doesn't work as well as planned and one of them is captured but the other escapes with Chakotay. Unfortunately this doesn't provide him with the proof he needs as those supporting the existing orthodoxies aren't concerned with the truth and threaten to destroy Voyager and along with it all evidence that their species is from Earth.

I thought it was refreshing to see an episode from the point of view of an alien species although there were a few flaws such as how would an alien species be able to read the word "Voyager" on the dead officer's uniform and how would they know it was a ship's name? Apart from this the story was pretty good and the alien being forced to deny what he knew was true nicely mirrored Galileo being forced to deny that the sun was the centre of the solar system.
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10/10
Dinosaur archaeologists
the-hfo12 July 2007
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As an archaeologist I find this, as well as many Star Trek episodes, particularly exciting. The original series had many interesting episodes that involved the research of archaeologistst. The technology that these anthropologists have is mind boggling. If we could only analyze artifacts of the past and find other human beings' names we would be ecstatic. A race of dinosaurs managed to evolve in isolation on a remote portion of some continent on Earth. Some catastrophe occurred and sent them to the Delta Quadrant. But, as always, the government of dogmatists make it impossible for the archaeologists to pursue their research unabated.
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Other theories of origin
slackersmom1 August 2017
One thing that I found odd in this episode is the absolute absence of any theory other than the one put forth by Janeway and Chakotay when it comes to the Voth: that this race of 'sauropods' evolved to the point of super-advanced technology (warp capable) at a time when the rest of the earth was populated by amazon forests and dinosaurs. And NO humans. In this situation, the sauropods evolved and thrived to the point of joining the Space Age in a big way-- and yet never bothered to explore the rest of Earth. Instead they apparently stayed on their little now-lost continent, and, when they discovered that an asteroid was going to devastate the planet, they got on space ships and flew away.

Two more likely theories (well, relatively speaking, that is) would be if either A) some race of space travelers 'rescued' the Voth species from doomed Earth and took them halfway across the galaxy. OR, option B) some debris from the collision of the asteroid and earth was thrown into space, and contained microscopic cells that later developed into life forms that eventually evolved into the Voth. But no, instead the theory is that a whole race evolved, learned, and thrived on one isolated continent, and,without ever exploring their own planet, they flew to the other side of the Milky Way.

If this 'theory' had been tempered or at least mentioned as being only ONE possibility, this episode would have been much better.
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1/10
Literally Fell ASLEEP!
trosehorses15 December 2023
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Everybody on this thread loved this episode and most rated it 9 or 10 stars. However, I am going to be the dissenter here and call this episode out for what it was....dreadfully BORING! Maybe for die-hard trekkies, the historical references of how these aliens evolved from dinosaurs and ended up in the Delta Quadrant was interesting, but I thought it terribly boring and uneventful.

In this episode, I constantly found myself searching for the CAST of the show, who were noticeably almost completely ABSENT from this entire episode! First of all, we didn't even SEE any of the regular cast for the first 15 minutes of the show; I thought maybe we made a mistake and turned on a different show by accident (not really, but you DO start to wonder..). Just as I was about to check, we finally saw the cast; however, the episode still focused mainly on the aliens.

Let's also not forget to mention the SUPER LONG drawn-out court scene where the professor alien, after capturing Chakotay for proof of his "Distant-origin theory," stated his case to the court attempting to prove his theory. After the professor failed (once again) to convince the court, Chakotay spoke, but unfortunately, I couldn't tell you what either of them actually said because I literally fell ASLEEP. I tried to stay awake, I really did. This scene literally took up 20 minutes of the episode, and it didn't even accomplish anything.

Also, what happened to poor Tuvok? He was shot with the alien's.... spike... or whatever it was (as he and Tom were about to climb into a Jefferies tube), and then ordered Tom to leave him behind. An alien approached Tuvok as he collapsed, and then....... cut-scene. Tuvok was never mentioned again the rest of the episode.

I love Voyager, but this episode was a hard fail for me. I might turn it on if I'm having trouble falling asleep tonight.
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10/10
Excellent point of view
smiledaydream10 February 2021
Again, good writing. Sometimes the show can remind me of the outer limits. Clever little stories from a different point of view. I really liked the characters this time. Even the unlikable character has some charm. Cool stuff happens.
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8/10
Space Dinosaurs.
thevacinstaller31 July 2021
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This was a well executed commentary on fanatical belief hindering progression. I also like that we did not get a happy ending ---- the Voth are going forward in ignorance of their origin and belief that they are the first space explores of the galaxy. One does have to stretch a bit to believe that Raptors somehow developed space flight and all left earth never to return --- buy hey ---- it's science fiction after all.

As of 2021 the greatest threat to society in my opinion is fanatic belief by people of power. Truth is now something that can be invented and fact is now an opinion.

Succeeds in my crazy story idea category.
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9/10
May be Voyager's first Truly Great Episode
whatch-1793130 January 2021
Concetta Tomei's performance as Minister Odala is convincing and absolutely electrifying. This is the only TV episode of any show I think is worth watching just for one actor's performance. Even though you know everything for Voyager and Chuckles will be ok in the end, Minister Odala really makes you worry for them.

Beltran seems to play Chuckles very timidly in his Speech. I'm not sure if he's really doing that or if Tomei's Odala just makes it seem that way. Her glare alone is extremely intimidating, and that's with extensive facial prosthetics to boot. Her race could have been great ongoing antagonists for the show. Far better than that motorcycle gang they dealt with for two years.

Speaking of which, this episode also makes good use of the planet in that train wreck Basics. And while Voyager got a lot of flack for very limited continuity and consequences, this episode makes great use of prior episodes.

It's also told from a different point of view, which is nifty, a bit like TNG's First Contact episode.

Just don't watch the trailer before watching the episode. As almost always with Voyager, the trailers are terribly misleading.
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9/10
Chakotay as Scopes' Monkey!
cannotlogon1034 September 2010
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In one of the more clever and intriguing episodes of Voyager, "Distant Origin" pits a pure scientist against institutionally-enforced ignorance in a way that one can't help but compare to the present-day battle between evolutionists and creationists.

As the episode begins, we are introduced to an alien paleontologist who discovers the skeletal remains and tattered uniform of the recently dead Ensign Hogan on the planet upon which the Kazon deserted the crew of Voyager in "Basics" at the end of Season two. Based on his analysis, the alien scientist determines that humans and his species -- that resembles highly evolved dinosaurs -- share some 47 common genetic base pairs in their DNA -- evidence that supports his theory that his species did not originate in the Delta Quadrant; but, instead, find their ancestral origins on Earth in the Alpha Quadrant.

Unfortunately for our alien protagonist, his theory of evolution, if you will, stands in direct contravention to the prevailing "doctrine" of his people, who hold as sacred truth that their ancestors originated in the Delta Quadrant. As a result, he is charged with "heresy against doctrine", and threatened by the authorities of his people if he doesn't promptly recant his heretical assertions.

Unlike today's religious right that consider Darwin's theory of natural selection heretical and lobby to have creationism taught in our schools as scientific fact under the absurd, fabricated "science" of "intelligent design", the closed-minded aliens of "Distant Origin" are the ones currently in power, and demonstrate a blithe willingness to extort silence from those who dare to suggest any contrary scientific theory, regardless of the strength of the evidence in support thereof. Ultimately, after a Delta Quadrant equivalent of the "Scopes' Monkey trial", the alien paleontologist of "Distant Origin" is forced to withdraw his theory, lest he end up exiled to a penal colony. To make matters worse, the authorities also threaten to exile the entire Voyager crew, as well, in a clear attempt to "get rid of the evidence" of this radical theory that would throw thousands of years of institutionalized ignorance into chaos, and loosen the authoritarian governing body's hold on the unsuspecting populace.

If only the Clarence Darrow of the Delta Quadrant had shown up, things might have ended a little less bleak for our unfortunate hero!
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8/10
One of the season's best
snoozejonc14 February 2023
An alien race finds the remains of a Voyager crew member on the planet featured in the episode 'Basics'.

This is a strong episode that addresses some thought-provoking themes.

If you take the sci-fi premise of the plot with the right amount of suspension of disbelief it has a very strong "what if" concept, as much as 'Planet of the Apes' has in the movie world. The only aspect I slightly struggled with (and it's common to Star Trek stories) is the contradictory attitude of the Voth race to their apparent scientific progression. How did they get so advanced when society is so inflexible and punitive when it comes to adherence to certain beliefs?

I love the opening narrative, told from the perspective of the Voth scientists and their observations of Voyager. In fact I would enjoy a whole episode told in this style.

The guest characters have centre stage in this episode, with Gagen and Ocala nicely written with a Galileo and Catholic Church dynamic. Henry Worocnicz and Concetta Tomei are the stars of the show for me. Robert Beltran provides good support and Katie Mulgrew is great as always.
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10/10
RIGHT WING IGNORANCE IN SPACE
awbusa22 July 2021
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7/21/2021

MINISTER ODALA reminds me of the RIGHT WING NAZI FASCISTS that want to ban REAL HISTORY & REAL FACTS & REAL INFORMATION from being taught in schools because it would show their kids that the DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE EVERYONE is EQUAL & FREEDOM for EVERYONE is the WAY to the STAR TREK FUTURE that 85% of AMERICANS & the HUMAN RACE want & need.
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8/10
Another blundered 3rd act
chadtoland20 January 2021
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8/10 is generous. I was amazed at the beginning of this episode. It stood out as a creative, interesting plot, presented in a unique way. But then, in usual Voyager fashion it couldn't help getting preachy and failed to stick the landing. I was tuned out by the end. And again, an obvious scenario that would get Voyager back to Earth, oopse never mind, let's bend the plot backward to avoid that happening. This show cannot get out of its own way. Overall still a good episode, one of the better ones so far, up until the last half.
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4/10
Highly advanced species rejects evolution
markbyrn-118 January 2024
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The story suggests that dinosaurs on earth evolved to the point where they left earth and ventured all the way to the Delta quadrant and became a highly advanced species known as the Voth. That's a stretch but it's Voyager and that's where the story takes place.

Unfortunately, as advanced as the Voth were, they rejected science as it pertains to their biological evolution. Despite evidence from their own scientists proving common DNA with humans based on their evolution on Earth, their leaders rejected such a notion as heresy. If they were primitives steeped in religious supremacy, it would be understandable but not a space-faring species that even more advanced than the Federation. It would have been more realistic if the Voth had reluctantly accepted intelligence over latent superstition.

I think the real problem here is human writing that's fixated on portraying lizard-like reptilian like species in an unfavorable light. This includes the Gorn, Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, Xindi, and course the Voth.
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9/10
One of the best and coolest Voyager episodes in its entire run.
chrisgavidia25 January 2024
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This episode is amazingly well written and featured one of the more interesting Delta Quadrant races in my opinion. The Voth species originally evolved on prehistoric Earth and left the planet millions of years ago.

The episode also really gets to the "new worlds and civilizations" core of Star Trek.

Chakotay of course is a standout in the last half of the episode and he delivers some of his strongest monologues in Chakotay's character during Voyagers run.

My only complaint was that the show-runners introduced an awesome interesting alien race and they never revisited them and instead leaned into so heavily the Borg. The Voth along with Hirogen and Species 8472 i felt had the best potential.
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8/10
Dinosaurs in space
tomsly-4001524 December 2023
Well, this episode at its core is well written. It is about how truths can shake a civilization, its beliefs and foundations. Naturally, there are always some that fight against change in the hopes to protect their societies. It is like with Galileo and the church, Darwin's evolution theory or the the way lots of Americans deal with creationism.

What I dislike about this episode is the more than questionable attempt to make a highly evolved species on earth, that existed before homo sapiens, sound plausbible. A species that evolved into a space travelling civilization cannot just exist on a small continent on a planet that might be buried under water today. The ressources you need to become so highly evolved would change a planet forever - see how we changed earth by burning fossil fuels to reach the state of technology we have today. Travelling to space would for example need satellites at one point in space - you don't leap frog to warp engines without first building plain old rockets. Those don't just vanish. Mining minerals would also leave behind signs that could be found today and since not all ressources are located in one geolocical spot, you would find those traces all over the world. Also, you would find residues in the arctic ice for example of polution, micro plastics etc. While there could be an evolved species on earth before us, it would basically have to lived purely in harmony with nature without artifical materials or anything that would outlast millenia.

And yet again we have a species that is ruled by this one person that decides over the fate everyone by himself. A highly evolved species would most likely have way over 10 billion individuals. And the more planets they would colonize, the more of them there would be. A powerful space travelling species would surely have 20-30 billion individuals at least, if they lived for thousands of years even more. And there should be this one person to rule them all??? Ridiculous. Just look how fragmented earth is. The beliefs of one nation or religion doesn't bother another nation or religion at all.
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5/10
Did Voyager forget its goals?
thekryz20 August 2020
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So here we have an interesting episode, since it's told from an unusual standpoint of a different species. They track down Voyager (however impossible that is, continuity-wise) and then catch up with them via transwarp-technology. Wait ... transwarp-technology? Wouldn't that be THE tool Voyager is looking for, since it would basically help them get home really quickly? So they try to get their hands on it, right? Wrong. Of course, there can be an argument about how they need to leave as quickly as possible, once there has been a verdict. But then again, Chakotay spent what, three days on the alien's ship? During the hearing, he says he had time to catch up with their history - but he didn't try to learn about transwarp-technology to get home? How in the WORLD could that have been more important to him? He should have at least been able to kindly ask the alien researcher for the equivalent of a thumb drive with the basic idea of transwarp. But no. I guess, they all got so used to being adrift that they stop caring somehow. Or did they? It seems like a really big flaw to me.
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