Seven (1995)
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- R
- 2h 7min
- Crime, Drama
- 22 Sep 1995 (USA)
- Movie
- Nominated for 1 Oscar. Another 29 wins & 43 nominations.
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Morgan Freeman | ... |
Somerset
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Andrew Kevin Walker | ... |
Dead Man at 1st Crime Scene
(as Andy Walker)
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Daniel Zacapa | ... |
Detective Taylor at First Murder
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Brad Pitt | ... |
Mills
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Gwyneth Paltrow | ... |
Tracy
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John Cassini | ... |
Officer Davis
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Bob Mack | ... |
Gluttony Victim
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Peter Crombie | ... |
Dr. O'Neill
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Reg E. Cathey | ... |
Dr. Santiago
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R. Lee Ermey | ... |
Police Captain
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George Christy | ... |
Workman at Door of Somerset's Office
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Endre Hules | ... |
Cab Driver
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Hawthorne James | ... |
George the Night Guard at the Library
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William Davidson | ... |
First Guard at the Library
(as Roscoe Davidson)
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Bob Collins | ... |
Second Guard at the Library
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Jimmy Dale Hartsell | ... |
Library Janitor
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Richard Roundtree | ... |
Talbot
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Charline Su | ... |
TV News Reporter
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Dominique Jennings | ... |
TV News Reporter
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Allan Kolman | ... |
First Forensic Man in the Law Office
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Beverly Burke | ... |
TV Anchor Woman
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Gene Borkan | ... |
Eli Gould - Greed Victim
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Julie Araskog | ... |
Mrs. Gould
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Mario Di Donato | ... |
Fingerprint Forensic Man in Law Office
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Alfonso Freeman | ... |
Fingerprint Technician
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John C. McGinley | ... |
California
(as John C. Mcginley)
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Harrison White | ... |
Cop on SWAT Team
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Bob Stephenson | ... |
Cop on SWAT Team
(as Robert Stephenson)
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Michael Reid MacKay | ... |
Victor - Sloth Victim
(as Michael Reid Mackay)
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Kevin Spacey | ... |
John Doe
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Richard Portnow | ... |
Dr. Beardsley
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Tudor Sherrard | ... |
Coupon Man Outside Pizza Parlor
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Mark Boone Junior | ... |
Greasy F.B.I. Man
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Pamala Tyson | ... |
Thin Vagrant by John Doe's Apartment
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Lennie Loftin | ... |
Policeman Who Takes Statement from Vagrant
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Sarah Reinhardt | ... |
Police Sketch Artist
(as Sarah Hale Reinhardt)
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Emily Wagner | ... |
Detective Sara at John Doe's Apartment
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Martin Serene | ... |
Wild Bill
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Michael Massee | ... |
Man in Booth at Massage Parlor
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David Correia | ... |
First Cop at Massage Parlor
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Ron Blair | ... |
Second Cop at Massage Parlor
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Jennifer Mueller | ... |
Lust Victim
(as Cat Mueller)
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Leland Orser | ... |
Crazed Man in Massage Parlor
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Lexie Bigham | ... |
Sweating Cop at Massage Parlor
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Evan Mirand | ... |
Paramedic at Massage Parlor
(as Evan Miranda)
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Paul Eckstein | ... |
Paramedic at Massage Parlor
(as Paul S. Eckstein)
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Harris Savides | ... |
911 Operator
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Rachel Flanagan | ... |
Additional 911 Operator
(as Rachel Schadt)
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Heidi Schanz | ... |
Pride Victim
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Brian Evers | ... |
Duty Sergeant
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Shannon Wilcox | ... |
Woman Cop Behind Desk
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Richard Schiff | ... |
Mark Swarr
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James Deeth | ... |
Helicopter Pilot
(as Jim Deeth)
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John Santin | ... |
Helicopter Pilot
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Charles A. Tamburro | ... |
SWAT Helicopter Pilot
(as Charles Tamburro)
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Richmond Arquette | ... |
Delivery Man
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Duffy Gaver | ... |
Marksman in Helicopter
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Rest of cast listed alphabetically: | |||
Charles S. Dutton | ... |
Cop (uncredited)
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Gregory Fennell | ... |
Los Angeles SWAT (uncredited)
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Tyler Jackson | ... |
Cop on SWAT Team (uncredited)
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Mike Knox | ... |
Library Customer (uncredited)
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Pui Fan Lee | ... |
Orchestra Vocalist / Emcee (uncredited)
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Arthur Max | ... |
Man in Library (uncredited)
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Gorja Max | ... |
Detective (uncredited)
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Patricia Pinto | ... |
TV News Reporter (uncredited)
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Directed by
David Fincher | ... | (directed by) |
Written by
Andrew Kevin Walker | ... | (written by) |
Produced by
Stephen Joel Brown | ... | co-producer (as Stephen Brown) |
Phyllis Carlyle | ... | producer (produced by) |
William C. Gerrity | ... | line producer: additional photography |
Nana Greenwald | ... | co-producer |
Lynn Harris | ... | co-executive producer |
Dan Kolsrud | ... | executive producer |
Anne Kopelson | ... | executive producer |
Arnold Kopelson | ... | producer (produced by) |
Gianni Nunnari | ... | executive producer |
Sanford Panitch | ... | co-producer |
Michele Platt | ... | associate producer |
Richard Saperstein | ... | co-executive producer |
Music by
Howard Shore | ... | (music by) |
Cinematography by
Darius Khondji | ... | director of photography |
Editing by
Richard Francis-Bruce | ... | (edited by) |
Editorial Department
Tom Barrett | ... | assistant editor |
Gary Burritt | ... | negative cutter: Kona Cutting |
Dale Caldwell | ... | color timer: DeLuxe |
Ian Crockett | ... | post-production assistant |
Howard Davis | ... | second assistant editor |
Carol Folgate | ... | assistant editor |
William Hoy | ... | additional editor |
Laura P. Krasnow | ... | assistant editor |
Yvan Lucas | ... | special color consultant (as Yvon Lucas) |
Robert C. Lusted | ... | first assistant editor (as Robert Charles Lusted) |
Lindsay Mofford | ... | assistant editor |
David Reale | ... | assistant editor: avid |
Karen Kory | ... | assistant editor (uncredited) |
Casting By
Kerry Barden | ... | (casting by) (as Kerry Borden) |
Suzanne Crowley | ... | (casting by) (as Suzanne Smith) |
Billy Hopkins | ... | (casting by) |
Production Design by
Arthur Max | ... | (production designed by) |
Art Direction by
Gary Wissner |
Set Decoration by
Clay A. Griffith |
Costume Design by
Michael Kaplan | ... | (costumes designed by) |
Makeup Department
Jean Ann Black | ... | makeup supervisor (as Jean Black) |
Rob Bottin | ... | special makeup effects |
Michael Hancock | ... | makeup artist: Mr. Freeman (as Michael A. Hancock) |
Becky Ochoa | ... | hair designer: Rob Bottin production crew |
Margaret Prentice | ... | makeup artist: Rob Bottin production crew |
Greg Solomon | ... | key artist |
Monty Westmore | ... | makeup artist |
Michael White | ... | supervising hair stylist / supervising makeup artist |
Gary Archer | ... | dental prosthetics (uncredited) |
Production Management
Joe Fineman | ... | executive in charge of post-production |
Ric Keeley | ... | post-production supervisor |
Robert S. Mendelsohn | ... | unit production manager |
Allan Wertheim | ... | unit production manager |
Ted Zachary | ... | executive in charge of production |
Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Leonard Bram | ... | additional second assistant director (as Leonard M. Bram) |
Frank Davis | ... | second assistant director |
George Fortmuller | ... | key second assistant director: additional photography |
Scott Harris | ... | key second assistant director: additional photography |
Michael Alan Kahn | ... | first assistant director |
Nilo Otero | ... | first assistant director |
Craig A. Pinckes | ... | second second assistant director (as Craig Pinckes) |
Dodi Lee Rubenstein | ... | second second assistant director (as Dodi Rubenstein) |
David Ticotin | ... | additional second assistant director |
Tyrone S. Walker | ... | dga trainee (as Tyrone Walker) |
Rebecca Strickland Weathersby | ... | second second assistant director: additional photography (as Rebecca Strickland) |
Art Department
Timothy D. Ackers | ... | art department: additional photography (as Tim Ackers) |
Shawn Albro | ... | painter decorator / scenic artist |
Alan Alvarado | ... | propmaker |
Edward R. Alvarado | ... | laborer (as Edward Alvarado Jr.) |
Erich Baumann | ... | draper |
Bruce Bellamy | ... | swing gang |
Barry Bernson | ... | propmaker |
Earl F. Betts | ... | propmaker gang boss (as Earl Betts) |
Kelly Birrer | ... | labor foreman |
John Bistagne | ... | propmaker |
David A. Bonino | ... | labor toolroom keeper |
Robert Bonino | ... | construction coordinator |
James E. Bowen Jr. | ... | swing gang (as James Bowen Jr.) |
Raull Butcher | ... | propmaker |
Christopher Casey | ... | set dresser |
Barry Chusid | ... | assistant art director |
Wayne Coe | ... | storyboard artist |
Daren Cornell | ... | painter decorator |
Ed Cornell | ... | painter decorator |
Mike Cunningham | ... | prop assistant |
William Davidson | ... | construction foreman (as William Roscoe Davidson) |
Joanne Davis | ... | painter decorator |
Daren Dochterman | ... | illustrator |
James Donohue | ... | laborer |
Thomas Early | ... | propmaker |
Robert Flores | ... | laborer |
Earl Forkrud | ... | propmaker |
Gerald Gates Jr. | ... | paint foreman (as Gerald J. Gates) |
Stuart Gates | ... | laborer |
Brian J. Geary | ... | construction foreman |
Chris Gibbin | ... | lead man |
Joseph Gilmore | ... | propmaker |
Armand Gonzalez | ... | laborer |
Greg Hamlin | ... | propmaker (as Gregory Hamlin) |
Sean Hargreaves | ... | illustrator |
Caleb William Harris | ... | propmaker (as Caleb Harris) |
George Harris | ... | propmaker |
Jay C. Harris | ... | propmaker (as Jay Harris) |
Dale Hart | ... | propmaker |
Russel Harvey | ... | painter decorator |
Philip A. Henry | ... | propmaker (as Phillip A. Henry) |
Van Jewell | ... | painter/decorator gang boss |
Eli Jiminez | ... | labor hod |
Nicholas C. John | ... | stand-by painter |
Dean B. Katz | ... | set dresser |
Maureen Kropf | ... | assistant paint foreman |
Joseph J. Lagoia | ... | propmaker |
Elizabeth Lapp | ... | set designer |
Gail Laskowski | ... | art department: additional photography |
Thomas W. Lay Jr. | ... | illustrator (as Thomas Lay) |
Devlin Lenew | ... | propmaker (as Devlin Lerew) |
Ralph Lopez | ... | painter decorator |
Charles 'Chuck' Lungren | ... | painter decorator gang boss (as Charles Lungren) |
Jon Maaso | ... | painter decorator |
Sasha Madzar | ... | propmaker |
John Hammer Maxwell | ... | on-set dresser (as John H. Maxwell) |
Kevin McCown | ... | propmaker |
Monte McCrae | ... | painter decorator (as Monty McCrae) |
Todd McKibben | ... | construction foreman |
Michael Mikita Jr. | ... | painter/decorator gang boss |
Michael Mikita | ... | painter decorator gang boss (as Michael Mikita Sr.) |
Roy 'Bucky' Moore | ... | property master |
Leopold Mouneau Jr. | ... | laborer |
Lou Mouneu Sr. | ... | plasterer |
Frank Musitelle | ... | art dept / greensman |
Jan O'Connell | ... | art department estimator |
Michael S. O'Neal | ... | propmaker gang boss |
Chris Pascuzzo | ... | swing gang |
Dan Pemberton | ... | construction coordinator: additional photography (as Daniel Ray Pemberton) |
Ernest Quintero | ... | plasterer |
Elizabeth Ragali | ... | set decorating buyer |
Roxanne Reaver | ... | construction estimator |
Donald Redoglia | ... | propmaker gang boss |
Roger Reese | ... | propmaker |
D. Rey Reid | ... | labor foreman |
Jacques Rey | ... | storyboard artist |
Davis Reyes | ... | propmaker |
Vincent Reynaud | ... | art director: additional photography |
David Rodriguez | ... | plasterer |
Robert Rodriguez | ... | laborer |
Thayne Scott Roes | ... | laborer |
Brana Rosenfeld | ... | assistant set decorator (as Brana Michelle Rosenfeld) |
Jesse Rosenfeld | ... | laborer |
Richard Ross | ... | propmaker (as Richard E. Ross) |
Virgil Ross | ... | labor toolroom keeper |
Lori Rowbotham | ... | set designer |
Alad Safdeye | ... | laborer |
Thomas Sahli | ... | labor foreman |
Dale Saiger | ... | propmaker gang boss |
Michael Sanchez | ... | plaster foreman |
Sal Sanchez | ... | plasterer (as Salvador Sanchez) |
Antonio Santelli | ... | painter/decorator gang boss |
Hugo Santiago | ... | set designer |
Robert Schmeck | ... | laborer |
Jay Schmidt | ... | painter decorator (as Jay Schmiddt) |
Bill Scholl | ... | laborer |
Eric Sherman | ... | painter/decorator gang boss |
Mitch Simmons | ... | painter/decorator gang boss (as Mitchell Simmons) |
Tim Stadler | ... | painter decorator |
George Stewart | ... | propmaker |
Nicholas Stewart | ... | propmaker |
H.J. Strunk | ... | propmaker (as Heinz Strunk) |
Michael Sullivan | ... | propmaker |
Patrick Tatopoulos | ... | illustrator |
Alex Temme | ... | propmaker |
Mitchell Thompson | ... | laborer |
Joe Valentino | ... | propmaker gang boss |
Ernest Vales | ... | graffiti artist |
Laszlo Veszpeller | ... | propmaker |
William Warner | ... | painter decorator (as William Walrner) |
Robbie Watts | ... | propmaker |
Richard Wheeler | ... | propmaker |
Denny White | ... | propmaker (as Denny L. White) |
Greg Wilkinson | ... | swing gang (as Gregory J. Wilkinson) |
Edward Wouters | ... | construction foreman (as Edward H. Wouters) |
Don Yaklin | ... | propmaker |
Todd Young | ... | assistant construction coordinator (as Todd A. Young) |
Craig Albrecht | ... | art department production assistant (uncredited) |
Kevin Coyle | ... | set dresser (uncredited) |
John S. Dorsey | ... | art department assistant: additional photography (uncredited) |
Leonardo | ... | conceptual designer (uncredited) |
Sound Department
David Behle | ... | recordist |
Steve Boeddeker | ... | assistant sound effects editor |
Willie D. Burton | ... | production sound mixer |
Sean Callery | ... | assistant sound effects editor |
Rick Canelli | ... | adr recordist |
Yin Cantor | ... | assistant sound supervisor |
Joan E. Chapman | ... | adr editor (as Joan Chapman) |
Kim B. Christensen | ... | sound effects editor |
David Diamond | ... | boom operator: second unit |
Francesca Dodd | ... | dialogue editor |
Patrick Dodd | ... | adr supervisor / supervising sound editor |
Richard Duarte | ... | foley mixer |
Sarah Felpes | ... | apprentice sound effects editor |
Malcolm Fife | ... | foley editor supervisor |
Chris M. Halstead | ... | apprentice sound effects editor (as Chris Halstead) |
Robert W. Harris | ... | utility sound technician |
Rick Hart | ... | re-recording mixer |
Nancy Jencks | ... | assistant sound effects editor |
Jack Keller | ... | recordist |
Ren Klyce | ... | sound designer / sound effects editor |
Erik R. Kraber | ... | assistant dialogue editor (as Erik Kraber) |
Jeffrey Kroeber | ... | assistant sound effects editor |
James P. Lay | ... | sound effects editor |
Mark Levinson | ... | adr editor / temp mix supervisor |
Marvin E. Lewis | ... | boom operator |
Robert J. Litt | ... | re-recording mixer |
Jeremy Molod | ... | foley mixer (as Jeremy Molad) |
Marnie Moore | ... | foley artist |
John Nutt | ... | dialogue editor |
Thomas J. O'Connell | ... | adr mixer |
Margie O'Malley | ... | foley artist |
Richard Quinn | ... | conforming editor (as Rich Quinn) |
Philip Rogers | ... | sound recordist |
Elliot Tyson | ... | re-recording mixer |
Jennifer L. Ware | ... | sound effects editor (as Jennifer Ware) |
Jeff Watts | ... | adr editor |
David Abrahamsen | ... | sound (uncredited) |
Steve Boeddeker | ... | assistant sound designer (uncredited) |
Jennifer Myers | ... | foley artist (uncredited) |
Ken S. Polk | ... | re-recording mixer (uncredited) |
Donald C. Rogers | ... | technical director of sound (uncredited) |
Steven Yeaw | ... | machine room loader (uncredited) |
Special Effects by
Peter Albiez | ... | special effects coordinator |
Anthony Allen Barlow | ... | key artist (as Anthony Barlow) |
Joel P. Blanchard | ... | special effects foreman |
Jack Bricker | ... | key artist |
Dan Cangemi | ... | special effects supervisor (as Danny Cangemi) |
Eva Marie Denst | ... | key artist |
Dino Doane | ... | special effects technician |
William B. Doane | ... | special effects |
Eric Dressor | ... | special effects |
Fernando Favila | ... | special effects producer: Rob Bottin production crew |
Jim Feldman | ... | conceptual artist: Rob Bottin production crew (as James Feldman) |
Thomas Floutz | ... | painter: Rob Bottin production crew |
Linda Frobos | ... | key artist |
David Gallion | ... | special effects crew |
Anette Haellmigk | ... | special effects photographer: Rob Bottin production crew |
Moto Hata | ... | sculptor: Rob Bottin production crew (as Motoyoshi Hata) |
David Hoehn | ... | special effects makeup |
John Holfmann | ... | special effects makeup (as John Halfmann) |
Whitey Krumm | ... | special effects (as Whitey Crumb) |
Robin McDonald | ... | key artist |
Ryan Peterson | ... | key artist |
Robert Phillips | ... | special effects (as Robert A. Phillips) |
Art Pimentel | ... | model/moldmaker: Rob Bottin production crew (as Art Pinemtel) |
Lambert Powell | ... | special effects |
Richard Ratliff | ... | special effects (as Rich Ratliff) |
Sam Sainz | ... | key artist |
Dawn M. Severdia | ... | project coordinator: Rob Bottin production crew (as Dawn Severdia) |
Dave Smith | ... | key artist |
David W. Smith | ... | key artist: Rob Bottin Productions (as Dave Smith) |
Todd Weslow | ... | key artist |
Josselin Mahot | ... | creature effects crew (uncredited) |
Visual Effects by
Findlay Bunting | ... | special image engineer |
Moose Enright | ... | special effects electronic supervisor |
Peter Frankfurt | ... | visual effects producer |
Greg Kimble | ... | visual effects supervisor |
Steven T Puri | ... | visual effects producer |
Rebecca Ramsey | ... | title producer: RGA/LA |
Tim Thompson | ... | visual effects coordinator |
Judith Bell | ... | digital artist (uncredited) |
J.W. Kompare | ... | visual effects editor (uncredited) |
Eric Withee | ... | digital film technician: RGA/LA (uncredited) |
Stunts
Dennis C. Alpert | ... | precision driver coordinator: additional photography (as Dennis Alpert) |
LaFaye Baker | ... | stunts |
Janet Brady | ... | stunts |
Bob Brown | ... | stunts |
Cindy Daniels | ... | stunts |
Tim A. Davison | ... | stunts (as Tim Davison) |
Kenny Endoso | ... | stunts |
Andree Gibbs | ... | stunts (as Andre Gibbs) |
Randy Hall | ... | stunts |
Kane Hodder | ... | stunts |
Henry Kingi | ... | stunts |
Johnny Martin | ... | stunts |
Alan Oliney | ... | stunts |
Chuck Picerni Jr. | ... | stunt coordinator (as Charles Picerni Jr.) / stunt coordinator: additional photography (as Charles Picerni Jr.) / stunts (as Charles Picerni Jr.) |
Charlie Picerni | ... | stunts |
Steve Picerni | ... | stunts |
Gary Price | ... | stunts |
Pat Romano | ... | stunts |
Philip Romano | ... | stunts (as Phillip J. Romano) |
Justus-Berumen Sandy | ... | stunts (as Sandy Berumen) |
John Tamburro | ... | helicopter stunt pilot |
Scott Wilder | ... | stunts |
Andrew DePalma | ... | stunt performer (uncredited) |
Scott Wilder | ... | stunt double: Brad Pitt (uncredited) |
Camera and Electrical Department
Michael Adler | ... | electrician: additional photography (as Mike Adler) |
Richard A. Anderson | ... | grip: additional photography |
Larry J. Aube | ... | key rigging grip (as Larry Aube) |
Nico Bally | ... | grip |
Brent Beal | ... | second assistant camera: "b" camera, additional photography |
Mike Bonnaud | ... | electrician |
Michael Brennan | ... | dolly grip |
Michael Charbonnet | ... | camera technician: Wescam camera, additional photography |
Michael A. Chavez | ... | camera operator: "b" camera (as Michael Chavez) |
Michael J. Coo | ... | key grip (as Michael Coo) |
Jeff Cronenweth | ... | camera operator: additional photography |
Mitch Dubin | ... | camera operator: "b" camera, additional photography |
Brad Edmiston | ... | first assistant camera |
David Emmerichs | ... | steadicam operator |
William E. Fitch | ... | best boy grip |
Chris Franco | ... | electrician |
Thomas Gibson | ... | best boy grip: additional photography (as Tom Gibson) |
Adam Glick | ... | electrician |
Shawn Goldstein | ... | electrician: additional photography |
Joseph Graham | ... | rigging grip (as Joe Graham) |
Conrad W. Hall | ... | camera operator: "a" camera |
Tyler Jackson | ... | Stedicam Operator |
William Leslie | ... | grip (as Billy Bob Leslie) |
Tom Loewy | ... | video engineer (as Tom 'Chick Magnet' Loewy) / video playback operator |
James A. Lundin | ... | base camp generator operator |
Ed Maloney | ... | best boy gaffer: additional photography (as Eddie Maloney) |
J. Steven Matzinger | ... | second assistant camera: additional photography (as Steve Matzinger) |
Stan McClain | ... | camera operator: Wescam camera, additional photography |
Melodie McDaniel | ... | still photographer: John Doe's photographs |
John McGraham | ... | rigging grip |
William T. McKane | ... | electrician (as William Travis McKane) |
Dennis McLean | ... | rigging grip |
Ed Medin | ... | electrician |
Mark Meyers | ... | dolly grip: additional photography (as Mark Meyers) |
Claudio Miranda | ... | gaffer: additional photography |
Donald M. Morgan | ... | aerial camera operator: additional photography (as Don Morgan) |
Dale Myrand | ... | steadicam operator |
Anthony Petrilla | ... | rigging grip |
J. Michael Popovich | ... | key grip: additional photography (as Mike Popovich) |
Thomas P. Powell | ... | lighting technician |
Paul Prince | ... | second assistant camera |
Tim Risch | ... | additional second assistant camera |
Thomas J. Ruffner | ... | second dolly grip: additional photography (as Tommy Ruffner) |
David Sanchez | ... | camera loader |
Harris Savides | ... | additional photographer |
Gregory J. Schmidt | ... | first assistant camera: "b" camera, additional photography (as Greg Schmidt) |
Peter Sorel | ... | still photographer |
Chris Strong | ... | gaffer |
Jeffrey Ray Strong | ... | electrician (as Jeff Strong) |
Julian Whatley | ... | first assistant camera: additional photography |
Monty Woodard | ... | electrician |
Robert Daniel | ... | lighting equipment rental liaison (uncredited) / rental technical support (uncredited) |
Darren Michaels | ... | still photographer: additional photography (uncredited) |
Steven J. Mikolas | ... | video assist (uncredited) |
Casting Department
Kim Coleman | ... | casting assistant: Los Angeles |
Aisha Coley | ... | casting associate |
Jennifer McNamara | ... | casting assistant: New York |
Costume and Wardrobe Department
Elinor Bardach | ... | costume supervisor (as Elinor C. Bardach) |
Marsha Bozeman | ... | costumer |
Larry Velasco | ... | costumer (as Lawrence Velasco) |
Location Management
Paul Hargrave | ... | location manager |
Joe Johnston | ... | location assistant (as Joseph Johnston Jr.) |
Fred Jove | ... | location scout |
Flint Maloney | ... | assistant location manager / location manager: additional photography |
Rick Schnier | ... | location scout: additional photography |
Rick Schuler | ... | location scout |
Jack Robinson | ... | location scout (uncredited) |
Music Department
Sandy De Crescent | ... | music contractor (as Sandy DeCrescent) |
Bert Dovo | ... | orchestrator |
Toby Emmerich | ... | executive in charge of music |
Rachel Flanagan | ... | music consultant: David Fincher (as Rachel Schadt) |
Simon Franglen | ... | computer music programmer / musician |
Janice Hayen | ... | music preparation |
Craig Huxley | ... | Producer Enterprise Synclavier Sound Package, Blaster Beam |
Patricia Joseph | ... | soundtrack producer |
Mark Kaufman | ... | music coordinator |
Ren Klyce | ... | music consultant: David Fincher |
John Kurlander | ... | music scoring mixer |
John Lissauer | ... | orchestrator |
Robert Randles | ... | music consultant |
Lucas Richman | ... | conductor: score |
Angie Rubin | ... | music editor |
Dana Sano | ... | music executive |
Ellen Segal | ... | music editor |
Robert Adcock | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Richard Altenbach | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Philip Ayling | ... | musician: oboe (uncredited) |
Rick Baptist | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Rebecca Barr | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Timothy Barr | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Steve Becknell | ... | musician: french horn (uncredited) |
Arnold Belnick | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Emily Bernstein | ... | musician: clarinet (uncredited) |
Bill Booth | ... | musician: trombone (uncredited) |
Gary Bovyer | ... | musician: clarinet (uncredited) |
Tom Boyd | ... | musician: oboe soloist (uncredited) |
Jacqueline Brand | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Robert Brosseau | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Tom Brown | ... | music preparation (uncredited) |
Denyse Buffum | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Larry Bunker | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Darius Campo | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Lily Ho Chen | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Charles Coker | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
Tony Cooke | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Matthew Cooker | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Douglas Davis | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Mario De Leon | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Burnette Dillon | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Bonnie Jean Douglas | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
David Duke | ... | musician: french horn (uncredited) |
Bruce Dukov | ... | concertmaster (uncredited) |
Steve Edelman | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Arni Egilsson | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Christine Ermacoff | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Alan Estes | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Charles H. Everett | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
David Ewart | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Marlo Fisher | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Michael Fisher | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Ron Folsom | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Bruce Fowler | ... | musician: trombone (uncredited) |
Rob Frear | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Berj Garabedian | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Pam Gates | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Rick Gerding | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Julie Gigante | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Pamela Goldsmith | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Galina Golovin | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Gregory T. Goodall | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Steven Gordon | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Danny Greco | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Keith Greene | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Opie Gruves | ... | music re-mixing coordinator (uncredited) |
Rowena Hammill | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Jennie Hansen | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Clayton Haslop | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Tamara Hatwan | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Amy Hershberger | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Oscar Hidalgo | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Carrie Holzman-Little | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Barbara Hunter | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Patricia Johnson | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Tommy Johnson | ... | musician: tuba (uncredited) |
Karen Jones | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Jim Kanter | ... | musician: clarinet (uncredited) |
Dennis Karmazyn | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Roland Kato | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Patricia Kindel-Heimerl | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
Carol Kleister-Castillo | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Armen Ksajikian | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Connie Kupka | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Janet Lakatos | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Timothy Landauer | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Michael Lang | ... | musician: keyboards (uncredited) |
Dimitrie Leivici | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Kathleen Lenski | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Gayle Levant | ... | musician: harp (uncredited) |
Peter Limonick | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Isabella Lippi | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Dane Little | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
David Low | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Warren Luening | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Frank Macchia | ... | music preparation (uncredited) |
Andy Malloy | ... | musician: trombone (uncredited) |
Michael Markman | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Liane Mautner | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Malcolm McNab | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Ed Meares | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Bruce Morgenthaler | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Ralph Morrison | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Kenneth Munday | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
Dan Neufeld | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Mitchell Newman | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Barbara Northcutt | ... | musician: oboe (uncredited) |
Brian O'Connor | ... | musician: french horn (uncredited) |
Michael O'Donovan | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
Robin Olson | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Sid Page | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Laura Kuennen Poper | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Joe Porcaro | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Andy Radford | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
Tom Raney | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Sue Ranney | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
John Reynolds | ... | musician: french horn (uncredited) |
Rafael Rishik | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Susan Rishik | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Anatoly Rosinsky | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Robin Ross | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
James T. Sale | ... | music preparation (uncredited) |
Sheldon Sanov | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Allen Savedoff | ... | musician: bassoon (uncredited) |
James Sawyer | ... | musician: trombone (uncredited) |
John Scanlon | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Steve Schaeffer | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Howard Shore | ... | music producer (uncredited) |
David Shostac | ... | musician: flute (uncredited) |
Haim Shtrum | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Paul Shure | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
David Speltz | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Sheryl Staples | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Sheridon Stokes | ... | musician: flute (uncredited) |
George Thatcher | ... | musician: trombone (uncredited) |
James Thatcher | ... | musician: French horn (uncredited) |
Richard Todd | ... | musician: french horn (uncredited) |
Sebastian Toettcher | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Louise Di Tullio | ... | musician: flute (uncredited) |
John Walz | ... | musician: cello (uncredited) |
Dave Washburn | ... | musician: trumpet (uncredited) |
Miwako Watanabe | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Roger Wilkie | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Don Williams | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Jerry Williams | ... | musician: percussion (uncredited) |
Ralph Williams | ... | musician: clarinet (uncredited) |
Kenneth Yerke | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Paul J. Zibits | ... | musician: bass (uncredited) |
Mihail Zinovyev | ... | musician: viola (uncredited) |
Shari Zippert | ... | musician: violin (uncredited) |
Script and Continuity Department
Cori Glazer | ... | script supervisor |
Jane Goldsmith | ... | script supervisor: additional photography |
Transportation Department
Bonnie Alden | ... | driver |
George Alden | ... | driver |
Alex Algozzino | ... | driver |
Chris Basso | ... | production van driver operator |
Joseph Campise | ... | driver |
Patrick L. Elmendorf | ... | driver |
Bo Falck | ... | driver |
Robert Gaskill | ... | driver (as Robert A. Gaskill) |
Don Haggerty | ... | driver |
Jeff J. Hattem | ... | driver |
Gary J. Johnson | ... | driver |
Alan Kaminsky | ... | driver (as Al Kaminsky) / transportation coordinator: additional photography (as Al Kaminsky) |
Jimmy Kaminsky | ... | driver |
Bob Limon | ... | driver |
Juan Lopez | ... | driver |
James A. Lundin | ... | driver |
Larry Market | ... | driver |
Mike McClure | ... | driver (as Michael W. McClure) |
Brian McEntyre | ... | driver |
Jim McEntyre | ... | driver |
Michael C. McEntyre | ... | driver |
Russell McEntyre | ... | transportation coordinator |
Alan Lance Myers | ... | driver (as Alan Myers) |
Jerry A. Oliveri | ... | driver |
Sergio Orozco | ... | driver (as Sergio Orosco) |
William 'Scott' Pierson | ... | driver (as Scott Pierson) |
Dewey A. Reed | ... | driver |
Keith Stearns | ... | driver |
Wayne Stone | ... | transportation captain |
Steve Surabian | ... | driver |
Randy L. Thiedeman | ... | driver |
Gaston Touchard | ... | driver |
Raymond Van Holtan | ... | driver |
Tom Whelpey | ... | driver (as Tom Whelpley) |
Bob White | ... | driver (as Robert T. White) |
Emmett L. Willis | ... | driver |
Ed Wirth | ... | driver (as Eddie Wirth) |
Bill Young | ... | precision driver coordinator |
Anthony Zahn Jr. | ... | driver (as Tony Zahn) |
Keenan Haight | ... | driver: additional photography (uncredited) |
Additional Crew
Sandro Acerbo | ... | Italian dubbing: Mills |
Liz Amsden | ... | business affairs liaison |
John L. Anderson | ... | assistant production coordinator |
Ed Arneson | ... | police technical advisor: Call the Cops |
Mark Arneson | ... | police technical advisor: Call the Cops |
Patrick Barnitt | ... | double: Kevin Spacey (as Patrick Barnett) |
Alex Barnoya | ... | first aid: additional photography |
Thomas Brader | ... | stand-in: Brad Pitt |
Paul A. Calabria | ... | animal trainer (as Paul Calabria) |
Cullen G. Chambers | ... | stand-in: Morgan Freeman |
Sue Chipperton | ... | animal trainer |
Bob Collins | ... | stand-in: Morgan Freeman |
Kyle Cooper | ... | title designer |
Robert Cotnoir | ... | assistant: Howard Shore (as Robert C. Cotnoir) |
Wendy Cox | ... | production coordinator |
Michael Cutter | ... | office staff assistant: additional photography |
Peter Davidian | ... | electrics coordinator |
Brad Davis | ... | payroll accountant |
Hedi El Kholti | ... | accounting assistant |
Avy Eschenasy | ... | production attorney |
Rachel Flanagan | ... | assistant: Mr. Fincher (as Rachel Schadt) |
Peter Frankfurt | ... | title producer |
François Frey | ... | publicist: France |
Kenneth H. Frith Jr. | ... | set production assistant (as Kenneth Frith) |
Carla Fry | ... | supervising production executive |
Emily Glatter | ... | in-house production coordinator |
Mark Graziano | ... | post-production coordinator |
Basil Grillo | ... | office staff assistant |
Robert Grindrod | ... | production accountant (as Robert J. Grindrod) |
Fred Grossman | ... | accountant: additional photography |
Ronald E. Hairston | ... | craft service (as Ron Hairston) |
Lana Hale | ... | copyright clearances: Clearvision |
Tony Hoffman | ... | product placement |
Janet Ingram | ... | production secretary (as Janet Stirner) |
Jack Janda | ... | production staff |
Michael Kelem | ... | gyrosphere operator: additional photography |
Buzz Kramer | ... | craft service: additional photography (as Buz Kramer) |
Jose Majica | ... | chef |
Gary A. Martin | ... | production assistant |
Pete Martinez | ... | graphic displays: Video Image |
Ginny Martino | ... | business affairs liaison |
Marco Mojica | ... | sous chef |
Maria Norman | ... | executive assistant: Arnold Kopelson |
Anna Rita Nunnari Dell'atte | ... | office staff assistant |
Benjamin Padilla | ... | sous chef |
Matthew Papish | ... | rights |
Quentin Pierre | ... | assistant: Mr. Freeman |
Todd Potter | ... | provider: Mills dogs |
Paul Prokop | ... | production controller |
Steven T Puri | ... | title producer |
Robert M. Rey | ... | medical consultant (as Dr. Robert M. Rey MD) |
Frank Rohlfing | ... | title & graphic design |
Phillip L. Rosen | ... | production attorney (as Phillip Rosen) |
Demian Rosenblatt | ... | graphic displays: Video Image |
Burton Sharp | ... | adr group coordinator |
Duane R. Shepard Sr. | ... | double: Morgan Freeman (as Duwayne R. Shepard Sr.) |
Iva Franks Singer | ... | stand-in |
Susan Steinlauf-Pascal | ... | unit publicist |
Suzanne Steptoe | ... | soup lady |
Jeffrey D. Stevens | ... | key set medic (as Jeffrey Stevens) / key set medic |
Adam M. Stone | ... | set production assistant |
Paul Taglianetti | ... | graphic displays: Video Image |
Charles A. Tamburro | ... | aerial coordinator: additional photography (as Chuck Tamburro) |
Lee Tucker | ... | preview technical supervisor |
Richie Varga | ... | double: Brad Pitt |
Randy Walker | ... | police technical advisor: Call the Cops |
Jerri Whiteman | ... | first assistant accountant |
Ronald C. Briggs Jr. | ... | inventory services (uncredited) |
Patrick Ellis | ... | production assistant (uncredited) |
Christer Hokanson | ... | main title editorial (uncredited) |
Thanks
Ceán Chaffin | ... | special thanks (as Cean Chaffin) |
Vincent Landay | ... | special thanks (as Vince Landay) |
Production Companies
Distributors
- New Line Cinema (1995) (United States) (theatrical)
- Cecchi Gori Distribuzione (1996) (Italy) (theatrical)
- Constantin Film (1995) (Germany) (theatrical)
- Focus Film AG (1996) (Switzerland) (theatrical)
- PolyGram Filmed Entertainment Distribution (1995) (Netherlands) (theatrical)
- Roadshow Films (1995) (Australia) (theatrical)
- Sandrew Film & Teater (1995) (Sweden) (theatrical)
- Alliance Atlantis Communications (1995) (Canada)
- Entertainment One (1995) (Spain)
- Edifilmes (1996) (Portugal) (theatrical)
- Entertainment Film Distributors (1996) (United Kingdom) (theatrical)
- Lider Films (1996) (Argentina) (theatrical)
- Líder Films (1996) (Spain) (theatrical)
- Metropolitan Filmexport (1996) (France) (theatrical)
- Prooptiki (1996) (Greece) (theatrical)
- Warner Bros. (1996) (Finland) (theatrical)
- Alliance Video (1996) (United States) (VHS) (widescreen)
- Constantin Video (1996) (Germany) (video) (laserdisc)
- Entertainment in Video (1996) (United Kingdom) (VHS)
- Gativideo (1996) (Argentina) (VHS)
- New Line Home Video (1996) (United States) (video) (laserdisc)
- PolyGram Video (1996) (Netherlands) (VHS)
- PolyGram Video (1996) (Netherlands) (video) (Video CD)
- Prooptiki Video (1996) (Greece) (VHS)
- Roadshow Entertainment (1996) (Australia) (VHS)
- Roadshow Home Video (1996) (Australia) (VHS)
- Sandrew Film & Teater (1996) (Sweden) (VHS)
- Sirius Publishing (1996) (United States) (video) (Movie CD)
- The Criterion Collection (1996) (United States) (video) (laserdisc)
- Toho Video (1996) (Japan) (video) (laserdisc)
- Turner Home Entertainment (1996) (United States) (VHS) (For New Line Home Video)
- Warner Home Video (1996) (Norway) (VHS)
- Warner Home Video (1996) (Finland) (VHS) (pan & scan)
- New Line Home Video (1997) (United States) (video) (laserdisc) (Digital Surround Sound)
- TF1 Vidéo (1997) (France) (video) (laserdisc)
- Yleisradio (YLE) (1999) (Finland) (tv)
- Universal Pictures Video (2000) (Netherlands) (DVD)
- Entertainment in Video (2001) (United Kingdom) (DVD)
- Sandrews (2001) (Sweden) (DVD)
- Universal Pictures Video (2003) (Netherlands) (DVD) (VHS)
- Alliance Atlantis Home Video (2004) (Canada) (DVD)
- New Line Home Entertainment (2004) (United States) (DVD)
- Sandrew Metronome Distribution (2005) (Finland) (DVD) (2-disc edition)
- Sandrews (2005) (Sweden) (DVD)
- Warner Home Video (2005) (Germany) (DVD)
- Warner Home Video (2005) (Switzerland) (DVD)
- MGM Worldwide Television (2006) (United States) (tv) (syndication) (for New Line Television)
- FS Film (2008) (Finland) (DVD) (1-disc edition)
- Svensk Filmindustri (SF) (2008) (Sweden) (DVD)
- RCV Home Entertainment (2009) (Netherlands) (Blu-ray)
- TV5 (2010) (Finland) (tv)
- Warner Home Video (2012) (Netherlands) (Blu-ray)
- Argentina Video Home (2013) (Argentina) (DVD)
- Warner Home Video (2013) (United States) (DVD) (Included in "4 Film Favorites: Brad Pitt")
- Eén (2017) (Belgium) (tv)
- Warner Bros. Pictures (1997) (India) (theatrical)
- 7Mate (2023) (Australia) (tv)
- 7flix (2023) (Australia) (tv)
- Asso Film (video)
- British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) (1998) (United Kingdom) (tv) (BBC One)
- Columbia TriStar Home Video (Spain) (video) (laserdisc)
- E1 Entertainment Benelux (2010) (Netherlands) (DVD) (limited edition steelbook)
- FS Film (2010) (Finland) (Blu-ray)
- Fox Network (1999) (United States) (tv)
- HBO Max (2020) (United States) (video) (VOD)
- Know How Disc (Thailand) (DVD)
- Pioneer LDCE (United Kingdom) (video) (laserdisc)
- PlayArte Home Vídeo (Brazil) (DVD)
- PlayArte Home Vídeo (Brazil) (VHS)
- Pro 7 (1998) (Germany) (tv)
- RCV Home Entertainment (2007) (Netherlands) (DVD) (also as a 2-disc limited edition steelbook)
- SBS6 (1998) (Netherlands) (tv)
- United Basic Laser & Video Company (Hong Kong) (video) (laserdisc)
- VCL Communications (Germany) (video)
- Warner Bros. Entertainment Finland (2012) (Finland) (Blu-ray) (DVD)
- Warner Home Video (Finland) (VHS) (widescreen)
- Österreichischer Rundfunk (ORF) (1998) (Austria) (tv) (ORF1)
Special Effects
- Null Layer (visual effects: 4k remastered version)
- R/GA Digital Studios (digital visual effects and main title sequence)
Other Companies
- Mi Casa Multimedia (DVD audio mix & mastering 5.1, 6.1)
- Panavision (lenses and Panaflex AE camera)
- Bill Young's Precision Driving Team (stunts)
- Call The Cops (police technical advisors)
- Central Casting (extras casting)
- Chapman/Leonard Studio Equipment (camera cranes and dollies)
- Cinema Research (main title opticals)
- Clearvision (copyright clearances)
- DTS (in selected theaters)
- DeLuxe Video, Los Angeles (color)
- Deluxe Toronto (prints)
- Direct Tools & Fasteners (expendables)
- Dolby Laboratories (sound post-production)
- Entertainment Brokers International (insurance)
- Harbor Picture Company (post-production facilities)
- Imaginary Forces (main titles)
- Kona Cutting (negative cutting)
- Lucasfilm THX / TAP Theater Alignment Program (Quality assurance services were provided by)
- Michelson Food Services (catering)
- Paramount Pictures (2013 dvd package design)
- Sabron Payroll Services (payroll: orchestra)
- Saul Zaentz Film Center (post-production sound services)
- Sony Studios (music recorded at)
- Studio Animal Services (animals supplied by)
- TVT Records (soundtrack published by)
- Video Hawks (video equipment)
- Video Images (Seven graphic displays)
- Warner Advanced Media Operations (DVD transfer)
- Warner Bros. Entertainment (dvd package design)
- Warner Hollywood Studios (studio facilities)
Storyline
Plot Summary |
A film about two homicide detectives' (Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt) desperate hunt for a serial killer who justifies his crimes as absolution for the world's ignorance of the Seven Deadly Sins. The movie takes us from the tortured remains of one victim to the next as the sociopathic "John Doe" (Kevin Spacey) sermonizes to Detectives Somerset and Mills -- one sin at a time. The sin of Gluttony comes first and the murderer's terrible capacity is graphically demonstrated in the dark and subdued tones characteristic of film noir. The seasoned and cultured but jaded Somerset researches the Seven Deadly Sins in an effort to understand the killer's modus operandi while the bright but green and impulsive Detective Mills (Pitt) scoffs at his efforts to get inside the mind of a killer...
Written by Mark Fleetwood |
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Taglines | Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light. See more » |
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Parents Guide | View content advisory » |
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Box Office
Budget | $33,000,000 (estimated) |
Opening Weekend United States | $13,949,807, 24 Sep 1995 |
Cumulative Worldwide Gross | $327,311,859 |
Did You Know?
Trivia | As preparation for his traumatic scene in the interrogation room, Leland Orser would hyperventilate, so that his body would be overly saturated with oxygen. He also did not sleep for a few days, in order to achieve his character's disoriented look. See more » |
Goofs | When the detectives are at the door of John Doe's apartment, John walks into the hallway. He sees them, drops his bag of groceries, pulls a gun, shoots, and runs. The bag is now on the floor, with its contents spilled out. When Mills gives chase, he runs down the same hallway. The dropped bag of groceries has vanished. See more » |
Movie Connections | Edited into L'affaire Caravage (2019). See more » |
Soundtracks | Closer (Precursor) See more » |
Crazy Credits | SPOILER: Kevin Spacey's name is not included in the opening titles to keep the John Doe intrigue going. To compensate, he is listed twice in the closing credits: once before the credits start rolling and once in the rolling credits in order of appearance. See more » |
Quotes |
David Mills:
Wait, I thought all you did was kill innocent people. John Doe: Innocent? Is that supposed to be funny? An obese man... a disgusting man who could barely stand up; a man who if you saw him on the street, you'd point him out to your friends so that they could join you in mocking him; a man, who if you saw him while you were eating, you wouldn't be able to finish your meal. After him, I picked the lawyer and I know you both must have been secretly thanking me for that one. This is a man who dedicated his life to making money by lying with every breath that he could muster to keeping murderers and rapists on the streets! David Mills: Murderers? John Doe: A woman... David Mills: Murderers, John, like yourself? John Doe: [interrupts] A woman... so ugly on the inside she couldn't bear to go on living if she couldn't be beautiful on the outside. A drug dealer, a drug dealing pederast, actually! And let's not forget the disease-spreading whore! Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face. But that's the point. We see a deadly sin on every street corner, in every home, and we tolerate it. We tolerate it because it's common, it's trivial. We tolerate it morning, noon, and night. Well, not anymore. I'm setting the example. What I've done is going to be puzzled over and studied and followed... forever. See more » |