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Tres destinos (1984)

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34 opiniones
7/10

So bad it's good

  • jkt1219
  • 13 may 2005
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8/10

Tasteful entertainment

My wife has been been talking for the last 10 years about this TV-show and finally we got a chance to see it. To my surprise it turned out far less a chick-flick then I assumed (Thornbirds was a memory-lane disaster for the both of us). The story has nice twists, is nicely built and could stand any comparison to modern dramas. Sure, 1984 filming standards and some (few) bad acting parts make you want to laugh out loud but otherwise the show is most entertaining and easily watchable even on 21k-standards. On the other hand, the innocence in the way the show was filmed make it more attractive. A modern version would most likely destroy some of that particular touch. Lace is not built on intelligent dialogs however tells a story of failed promises and friendships in a way that makes you want to watch until the end.
  • axess95
  • 7 ago 2007
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8/10

Romance, intrigue, girl seaches for parents.

  • mollidew
  • 21 feb 2014
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10/10

Great 1980's TV Mini Series

I have been trying for many years to get my hands on an original taped copy of the miniseries and have just been able to do so. Copies of this miniseries are extremely rare! Lace, the miniseries, is the best miniseries I have ever seen on TV. I saw this when I was about ten and fell in love with the glamor, the mystery, the romance, the suspense and the actors. Someone made a comment about the acting being shallow, however I say that the acting was superb. The quality of the production reminded me of old romantic masterpieces. Phoebe Cates,Brooke Adams, Bess Armstrong, Arielle Dombasle, and Anthony Higgins all give stunning performances. Lace II is also equally intriguing. My only wish is that Lorimar or the company currently owning the rights to this series will start making DVD copies for sale! Why can't one purchase this magnificent series on Amazon, or anywhere? Lace seems to be a gem in hiding.
  • asierramoore2002
  • 11 feb 2006
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"Which one of you bitches is my mother?"

Campy, trashy mini-series from the early 80s that received a lot of publicity for Lili's query that ends part one: "Which one of you bitches is my mother?" This five hour mini-series was inspired by Shirley Conran's popular novel, but isn't very similar. Phoebe Cates plays Lili, an orphan who grows from a child in a prison camp to hooker to porn star to legitimate actress to global phenom in flashbacks. Lili is glamorous and beautiful, but not very likeable or even sympathetic, and Cates' nonspecific Eurotrash accent must be heard to be believed. Lili eventually traces her roots back to a trio of students who attended a Swiss finishing school together, one of whom gave birth to her using the pseudonym Lucinda Lace. Each of their lives is examined in flashback as well, as the soap opera-style drama of each of their lives progresses. By the time Lili finds out which "bitch" is her mother, it doesn't really matter. But the glamorous 80s-style costumes and beautiful international locations alone make this worth spending an afternoon watching. NOTE: sometimes a truncated 180 minute version of this airs on TV. See the complete version if you can.
  • Caitlin
  • 5 mar 1999
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6/10

Ignore the Accents and Try to Concentrate on the Story

This movie has been described as trashy, full of the 80s glamour and glitz, and a lot of negative comments have been made about the accents. The story has been critiqued as being way to long. It has been described as a soap opera. Tremendous negative comments have been made about the acting. Many people commented that they do not like the main character, Lili. I agree the accents are off and Lili is often not very likable. By the end she is simply someone searching for information. But the story does have a decent mystery that is not revealed until the very end, who is the girl's (Lili's) mother.

If you watch close enough to determine what point is being made by telling Lili's life story, you will probably get the answer before it is revealed.
  • Jakemcclake
  • 25 jul 2010
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9/10

Sprawling, impossibly glamorous, epic freak show

Aunt Hortense(in French dialect): "But the child is killed, it's dead, you know?" Lili (indefinable Euro dialect): "They'll wish I was. Their little school girl pact sent me to hell. I'll show them what I learned there..."

And so begins the saga that captivated millions of viewers in 1984. For this story of the poor little rich girl/porno queen/movie goddess had more charm, more style, and more suspense than anything ever seen before, or possibly since.. "Lace" also featured the most intoxicating and sweeping romantic situations, which stretched across no less than 5 countries, involving Arab Princes, French Champagne Barons, Shipping tycoons, and one vengeful Porno star turned legitimate actress. And this epic all begins with her, Lily, played by the outrageously exotic and sexy Phoebe Cates. Abandoned as a child, by a seemingly unfeeling mother, the young Elizebeth is cast into the cruel world and lands in a Hungarian work camp at the age of six, where she is mistreated and violated by soldiers, for 10 grueling years. Escaping at the age of 15, she flees to Paris, where she begins her descent into depravity, including back alley abortions, street prostitution, and finally ending up in pornographic cinema, all at the age of 16. Meanwhile her mother, who incidentally, could be any one of three amazingly successful and beautiful women, goes about her life believing that her child had been killed. Not true, as these three ladies are about to find out. And this is the most captivating element of this clever film: The viewer has no idea which one of these three is the mother of this vengeful wildcat, and we must wait until the end of this 4 hour epic to find out the truth. And as we find out at the same time as Lily, we really feel involved with these characters. Told effectively in flashbacks, we get to know each one of these fascinating women intimately. We are with them at their Swiss boarding school, where the scandal begins, and we follow them all on their separate paths of broken relationships, staggering romances, and jet setting around the world. Pagan, the sarcastic, raven haired English girl, who falls hard for Abdullah, the Prince of Sydon. And Maxine, the doll like French beauty, and her Champagne baron. And Judy, who is realizing her dream of seeing her New York fashion magazine, "Lace" become reality. And all the while, the life of the less fortunate Lily is also presented, in contrast to these womens seemingly easy and privileged lives. Lily's experiences have made her into a very hard and angry young woman, who fatefully decides to use her star power to bring each of these women to their knees. And there you have it. To say more might ruin the experience of "Lace." Now as cinema, "Lace" might not be considered a masterpiece compared the great classics. But as a piece of Escapism, this film absolutely cannot be rivaled. Women will most likely find themselves transfixed by the endless parade of haut couture fashions, clothes that are so classic and elegant that they would be right in style today. And the men will undoubtedly be drawn in by the collection of these strong and beautiful women. And the scenery is something to behold as well, from the Swiss Alps, to Ascot, to the wind blown deserts of the Middle East, to the glittering skyscrapers of Manhatten, not to mention the interiors of the most beautiful homes, hotel rooms, and castles, as well as exotic cars that are constantly on display. The budget for this production must have been staggering, for it makes Dynasty look absolutely anemic by comparison!

Compliment the goings on with a sweeping romantic score, and you have the ultimate trash novel come to blazing life on the screen. For the full impact of this one, it should be watched without commercial interruptions, so that the fantasy is not interrupted. I have a DVD box set, which includes the vastly inferior, and insulting "Lace II," and even when watched today, this has aged well. In the 80's perhaps this didn't really surprise people, as this level of decadence was presented often in this time, on television shows like Dynasty, and "Falcon Crest," but in present day, this unabashed show of opulence could almost be considered as politically incorrect, as the greed and status hunting lifestyles of the 80's is frowned upon today. But luckily, that specific time is immortalized in "Lace," an undeniable symbol of the 1980's.
  • Falconeer
  • 16 nov 2007
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6/10

I love Phoebe Cates but....

She ruined this movie.

I have always been intrigued buy the story. What a WONDERFUL story and I wish they would remake it.

I loved her in FT@RH, Gremlins, DDF..... she was wonderful in those but this character was way too deep for her. Way too wounded for a whole soul. She's seemed angry, just angry. I needed her to be hurt more. Even the end had no emotional closure.
  • Obimomkenobii
  • 3 abr 2020
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10/10

One of the best mini-series of the 80's!

"Lace" is an American mini-series from 1984, directed by Billy Hale and based on the popular novel by Shirley Conran.

Judy Hale, Pagan Trelowney and Maxine Pascal used to be best friends in the sixties, while attending the same boarding school in the Swiss Alps. Twenty years later, a glamorous movie star named Lili, summons the three women to her hotel, asking them: "Which one of you bitches it my mother?"

I first saw "Lace" as a kid, when the series was rerun on Swedish television in the nineties. I was so impressed by the powerful women, exotic locations and over-the-top story lines. A couple of years later, after my fascination with the eighties had begun, "Lace" was rerun yet again. This time around, I was old enough to fully enjoy this wonderful series.

I'm a big fan of trashy mini-series, especially from the eighties. But even though some parts of "Lace" could be considered trashy, it's a lot better than people give it credit! The acting is solid. Bess Armstrong, Brooke Adams and Arielle Dombasle all play their parts as glamorous and powerful women beautifully.

But my personal favourite is of course the amazing Phoebe Cates, known from eighties classics "Gremlins" and "Fast Times At Ridgemont High". She plays the strong, yet vulnerable Lili perfectly, bringing both sexiness and innocence to the complexed character.

Worth mentioning is that Angela Lansbury, of "Murder, She Wrote" fame, plays a small part as Maxine's aunt Hortense. She has the worst French accent in the history of fake accents, but who cares? It's Angela Lansbury for God's sake!

Also worth mentioning is the amazing soundtrack composed by Nick Bicât. Hearing the iconic theme song gives me goosebumps every time. The soundtrack finally available to buy digitally and physically from the composer's official website. It also includes the beautiful Deniece Williams track "No More Lies" from the sequel "Lace II".

"Lace" can be considered trashy and campy, but it's a lot better than most mini-series from the era. It's definitely one of my personal favourites. If you enjoy soap operas such as "Dynasty" and "Falcon Crest", I'm sure you'll love "Lace"!

"Lace" is available as a print-on-demand DVD from Amazon US. However, an official DVD have been released here in Scandinavia, and this edition can be imported from Amazon UK.
  • DennisAlexis
  • 1 ene 2014
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7/10

Meh

I read the book about a year before they released this. The book was FAR better! Combining the characters of Pagan and Kate must have been a financial decision.

The one thing that stands out the most in my mind is when Lili is running through Abdullah's palace, and she runs through the Patio de los Leones, right across a fountain that EVERY First year Spanish student has looked at in their text books. So, like, at least 2/3 of the US population was familiar with it, snd probably half of them could remember that it was not in "Sydon" in the Middle East! (The long distance view of the palace was shot in Africa, I believe. Morocco).
  • spayer27
  • 21 ene 2024
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2/10

Don't start watching this movie

This movie ran a painfully long four hours. I made the mistake of starting to watch it when I was flipping through the TV at 10:00 pm, and ended up going to bed fairly upset at myself for wasting so much time.

Don't start watching the film -- you'll want to find out who the mother is. You'll waste four hours. (You'll find out, two minutes from the end of the movie. Save yourself the agony; e-mail me for the answer.)

The biggest problem (other than it's a one hour story drug out over four hours), is that I never found myself caring or worried about any of the characters. They're all whiney, generic, bland people. The three potential mothers are fairly indistinguishable (was the magazine publisher the one who dated the hockey player? Who cares?). The daughter is only mildly sympathetic when she is a young child; by the end of the film I found myself wishing the guards had gunned her down, too.

I'm not big on emotional shows, although I liked "Sleepless in Seattle", "Forget Paris", "Mr. Holland's Opus", and "Good Will Hunting." Put "Lace" on the other end of the scale.
  • travisl
  • 9 dic 1998
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10/10

Great mini-series about a girl who wants to know the truth about who is her mother.

This mini-series was great,I hope that one day I will be able to buy it on video or on d.v.d. All the acting was fantastic. If you have read the book you will still enjoy this, and then go on to read and watch lace2 the sequel.

Phoebe Cates (wife of Kevin Kline) was a perfect choice to play Lili as she is both beautiful and very very talented. You will be wondering who is Lili's mother and when you find out you will then be wanting to find out who is Lili's father is. The other actresses in the show portraying the potential mothers of Lili played their parts fantastically.

Go ahead hire this one and enjoy.
  • wtca-wright
  • 25 nov 2005
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1/10

I disliked it!

I found it to be a bit soapy. Lather up the baby and wait for the water. Wait, Wait, Wait, three hours into it and Cates has no idea who gave her life. You don't either. Nope, wait, and wait , and wait, it drags you along on this life of excess where no one washes the baby, takes care of the child or shows their hand. Wait, and wait and wait some more. The only saving grace is the women are pretty enough to look at for awhile. You will need a bag of nachos, four bags of popcorn, three cans of coke, two dogs on your lap and plenty of cut up sausage and cheese. It will suck you in. Remember the time your mom told you not touch a fire, this is it, you begin watching this and it will suck you in.
  • vesperma05
  • 6 may 2005
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I give it an 8 out of 10 for the category of soap opera...

If you like British soaps, I would recommend this one. I found it quite amusing. Any parts of the story which I found "silly" are all to the better, in my opinion, for a story that is not supposed to be serious art or a true-slice-of-life. After the character of Lili enters the story ...(perhaps I should say that I didn't see the first ten minutes of this and I presume Lili was not at the beginning) I began to get the feeling that I was watching a South American soap opera. Don't let that comment put you off; I didn't expect to like it but I did! The actors did a good job with their material. The music was poor as in most British television shows. Phoebe Cates' outrageous accent only added to the charm; I found myself looking forward to hearing it. I would give it a 8 out of 10... for the category of soap opera.
  • s_kraymond
  • 10 ene 2001
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9/10

Classic TV-MINI SERIES Soap Drama

Very good soap drama TV-MINI SERIES that is very glamoruos,intriguing and is about the mystery of who is the mother of a young sex icon movie star.It is four hours long without commercials so do not watch this one in one sitting unless you have a lot of spare time.It's really meant to be watched in installments.Only for big fans of tv mini-series type soap dramas,it has a very good all around production for a tv show and could have been a masterpiece if it had better acting.The lead actors did their best but they really show their limitations here.Still,the acting was on par with the tv soap standards and Phoebe Cates truly fit her character.Most fans of the genre will consider this a cult classic.Fans of the lead actors will also want to check this out.......
  • kenandraf
  • 14 sep 2002
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10/10

Glamour Of The 80's

This is one of my favorite movies ever! A soap opera which show you the glamour of the wonderful 80's. Phoebe Cates is fabulous as the movie star diva Lili. When I think about "Lace" I think about all the glamour, the money, the clothes, the hair styles, the makeup, the fabulous female characters and of course the wonderful music. I will never forget this movie (TV-show) and I've got all the episodes on tape. So whenever I feel like going back to the 80's I just turn the video on. ;)

"Which one of you bitches is my mother?"
  • Bimbo_Boy
  • 15 may 2002
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9/10

I loved this to at about same age

To captivate a 10 yr old in a drama like this there must be something going for it. Lily (Phoebe) put across emotion excellently and I'd love to see this again. Great storyline, one of the most attention gripping films/series I have ever watched. Maybe it was partly also because she was such a pretty actress in this I maybe had a bit of a schoolboy crush. I remember the movie having a lot of flashbacks and being one of the 1st films I saw where the plot came together gradually from different angles as it went along. If anyone finds out any more information on where I can see or buy this again (I'm in the UK) then please email me at caspernet@hotmail.co.uk .... sorry review is a bit vague just wanted to drop my comment as it was so long ago (I'm 34 now) I don't remember much in detail
  • caspernet
  • 17 feb 2007
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3/10

Badly written, directed and boring

I believe the book did well and the premise of the story sounds as if it could have been exciting. However this piece of trash was written by amateurs, directed by someone who probably found it hard to color by numbers and Phoebe Cates was disastrous. More than anything it used ten scenes where one would have done and was completely in love with a budget which, obviously, was far more than needed in the hands of competent producers. Quite dismal.
  • morrowmmm
  • 30 dic 2002
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8/10

A classic!!

Lace is an American television two-part miniseries, based on the novel of the same name by author Shirley Conran. The series aired on ABC from February 26–27, 1984. The plot concerns the search by sex symbol Lili (Phoebe Cates) for her natural mother, who surrendered her for adoption as a newborn.

The miniseries is infamous for the line "Which one of you bitches is my mother?" spoken by Lili, when she finally assembles the three potential candidates: Pagan Trelawney (Brooke Adams), Judy Hale (Bess Armstrong) and Maxine Pascal (Arielle Dombasle).

Now you can relive all the soapy moments by Ordering "Lace" at Warner Bros. Archive collection.

http://www.wbshop.com/Warner-Archive/ARCHIVE,default,sc.html
  • lacefilm1984
  • 7 mar 2010
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the Height of 80's excess!

"Lace" reminds me of "lifestyles of the rich and famous"...the Aaron Spelling soaps "Dynasty" & "Hotel"..."Sins" starring Joan Collins...and that tv-movie with Stephanie Powers where she plays her own twin and gets blown up on a yacht. But I have to say that "Lace" was the absolute pinnacle of greed, glitz and excess in the 1980's. I can remember this being on tv when I was a kid and it seemed great back then. Now I look back and gag at the decadence of it all. I think this movie was filmed in every major city in Europe, New York, and some of the middle east. The budget had to be incredible! It was totally unbelievable which woman turned out to be Lily's mother, a huge let-down. I have to say that the best reason for watching "Lace" is to see how incredibly sexy and young Pheobe Cates was back then. Hubba Hubba!
  • Nick-337
  • 26 jun 2001
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10/10

I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Remember This!!!!!

  • newyorktalk
  • 28 dic 2010
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8/10

Bring back the 80s!

I loved the 80s. I was young, good-looking (if I say so myself), and life was fun (and don't let anyone tell you any different). That was usually reflected in films and TV series. That is why I hate anything contemporary. Forget trying to find escapism in the entertainment industry. Everything today is vulgar, loud, and crude at best; ugly, dark, broody, violent at worst. And don't even start me on European productions! Anybody seen Brit TV series, lately? They are the pit. All the men are evil, perverts, fat and ugly. The women are no better. Equally disagreeable, fat and ugly, they also pasty faces and muddy skins. Of course, not a trace of make-up among the lot of them (feminism insists). And everybody lives in depressing squalor and is tiresomely profane in some sort of English patois I can barely follow. I believe that is what certain people like to call "realism." For goodness sake, who the devil wants realism in entertainment. As Oscar Wilde put it, the less known about life's sores, the better.

Anyway, tired and fed up with all the kitchen-sink drama fetish, I decided to explore the internet in search of some much-needed escapism. Thank goodness for YouTube.

Yes, these soap operas have plots with more holes in them than Swiss cheese. Situations are barely believable. Everything is tinsel and fantastic (dear, oh, dear; no realism). But, oh, how refreshing to see luxury, glamour, beauty, for a change! Yes, people are still rotters. But I much prefer to see rotters in opulent surroundings than in dismal squalor. Men and women are gorgeous. Women are made- up (ok, maybe a bit too much). And, oh, look! They are all thin! If there are profanities, they are so few that I missed them.

Lace is no different. I won't go into the plot and the faults. Everybody else covered that already. Still, if you are looking for a bit of relief from kitchen-sink drama go to YouTube, pour yourself some wine, put your feet up and enjoy a bit of true R&R.

I know I'm going to get a lot of grief for my political incorrectness from the usual suspects. (Bleep) them. They can stick to their foul "realism" (no wonder they are so bitter). I get enough of that from real life.
  • AttyTude0
  • 31 oct 2016
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8/10

I LOVE this movie!

OK, yeah...It is a bit "soapy," but that is what a TV mini-series is all about, right? This movie is very long, about 6 hours, but it is cleverly set up. You follow along with the current time line of watching Lili find her mother, all the while watching flashbacks to get the history and back story. The suspense is there to make the watcher guess and try to figure things out along with Lili. When the very end arrives and you all find out what you have been waiting for, it is very gratifying.

This is definitely a movie that is great for a sick day or a snow day...you know, one that you sit around all day and veg out. I just wish that I can find it on DVD!!!
  • Kimbersan
  • 16 ene 2007
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10/10

i enjoy the movie

I really like the movies I would like to see if anyone have it so i could buy .I enjoy the plot and the girls they were very interesting. If you know any that has it please let me know I would appreciate that. I have seen it in a long time I would to see it again Thanks.
  • tangsgirl44
  • 1 oct 2003
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Good jive soap opera for a boring day

I agree with others that the movie did run for a long time but hey, when you have nothing to do on a rainy day or a slow day it is actually quite enjoyable. My biggest problem was with Phoebe Cates' acting. The accent was a little much and besides, in Lace II didn't her accent like, not exist anymore? Of course that's a whole different comment for that movie. Either way I enjoyed watching the three girls lives form with their romances and careers more so than I did with Lily's life. You could have skipped on that part altogether. Lily was abandoned, grows up and wants to know who her mother is. Simple. End there. Either way it's fun to watch if you have nothing else to do and some parts will have you interested.
  • Bondgirl1
  • 15 abr 2000
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