Where Do We Go from Here? (1945) User Reviews

Enjoyable Family Fantasy

[rmax304823 · 7/10 · 5 December 2006]

First saw this half a lifetime ago on a black-and-white TV in a small Samoan village and thought it was hilarious. Now, having seen it for the second time, so much later, I don't find it hilarious. I don't find ANYTHING hilarious anymore. But this is a witty and light-hearted comedy that moves along quickly without stumbling and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

It's 1945 and Fred MacMurray is a 4F who's dying to get into one of the armed forces. He rubs a lamp in the scrapyard he's managing and a genie appears to grant him a few wishes. (Ho hum, right? But though the introduction is no more than okay, the fantasies are pretty lively.) MacMurray tells the genie that he wants to be in the army. Poof, and he is marching along with Washington's soldiers into a particularly warm and inviting USO where June Haver and Joan Leslie are wearing lots of lace doilies or whatever they are, and lavender wigs. Washington sends MacMurray to spy on the enemy -- red-coating, German-speaking Hessians, not Brits. The Hessians are jammed into a Bierstube and singing a very amusing drinking song extolling the virtues of the Vaterland, "where the white wine is winier/ and the Rhine water's Rhinier/ and the bratwurst is mellower/ and the yellow hair is yellower/ and the Frauleins are jucier/ and the goose steps are goosier." Something like that. The characterizations are fabulous, as good as Sig Rumann's best. Otto Preminger is the suspicious and sinister Hessian general. "You know, Heidelberg, vee are 241 to 1 against you -- but vee are not afraid."

I can't go on too long with these fantasies but they're all quite funny, and so are the lyrics. When he wishes he were in the Navy, MacMurray winds up with Columbus and the fantasy is presented as grand opera. "Don't you know that sailing west meant/ a terrifically expensive investment?/ And who do you suppose provides the means/ but Isabella, Queen of Queens." When they sight the New World, someone remarks that it looks great. "I don't care what it looks like," mutters Columbus, "but that place is going to be called Columbusland."

Anyway, everything is finally straightened out, though the genie by this time is quite drunk, and MacMurray winds up in the Marine Corps with the right girl.

I've made it sound too cute, maybe, but it IS cute. The kids will enjoy the puffs of smoke and the magic and the corny love story. The adults will get a kick out of the more challenging elements of the story (who are the Hessians?) unless they happen to be college graduates, in which case they might want to stick with the legerdemain and say, "Wow! Awesome!"

Where do we go? To the cutting room, obviously

[marcslope · 6/10 · 21 April 2003]

Look at the number of actors on the IMDB cast list who had their scenes deleted (Roy Rogers, yet!), and you'll smell trouble: It's not typical for a big, expensive Technicolor wartime musical like this one to clock in under 80 minutes. Sure enough, it's a disjointed, haphazard musical fantasy, though full of talented people behind the scenes, notably Ira Gershwin and Kurt Weill. The songwriters bring a little pep to the story of a 4-F wannabe soldier who finds a magic lamp inhabited by an inept genie, who keeps putting him into the wrong century. The historic events visited feel terribly random -- the American Revolution, Columbus' voyage, Puritan New England -- and make one curious about what sequences were omitted. It's a cute idea -- the screenwriters, Morrie Ryskind and Sig Herzig, were Broadway veterans, and one suspects they originally conceived this as a stage musical -- but it's spun out with little real wit, and an aggressively uninteresting supporting cast fails to mine the minimal humor in the script. MacMurray, normally not a song-and-dance man, reveals a pleasant baritone but hasn't much to play, and he looks distinctly uncharmed by either of his leading ladies, though he did in fact marry June Haver. There's one celebrated sequence, a 10-minute mini-opera-bouffe called "The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria," where Bill (MacMurray) convinces Columbus' crew not to mutiny, since America needs to be discovered. (A wonderful couplet describing America's bounty was disallowed by the censors: "The girls are delightful/ Their sweaters are quite full.") Suddenly the whimsy takes off, and the singing's splendid, and the film feels as bizarre and pixilated as "The Wizard of Oz." It doesn't last, though, and then it's back to 20th Century Fox's back lot and more halfhearted jests about history and patriotism.

A try at something different, certainly, in an age where Hollywood musicals were mainly backstagers, and it has its moments. But mostly it's a missed opportunity. If the missing footage ever turns up, it might be worth looking at.

"All my life I've wanted you to sit on my lap but it's no fun if you're not conscious."

[utgard14 · 6/10 · 22 November 2014]

Fred MacMurray plays a guy who wants to do his patriotic duty and join the Army but he's 4F so they won't take him. To make matters worse, the girl he loves (June Haver) only dates soldiers. One night Fred frees a genie from a lamp and the genie grants him wishes in return. He wishes to be in the Army but the genie misunderstands and sends him back in time to join the Army of George Washington. From there, Fred bounces around in time to earlier points in American history where he sails with Columbus, buys Manhattan from Anthony Quinn, and hangs around with Dutch settlers who talk like Yoda.

Well this was an interesting little gem I'd never heard of. It's a pleasant Technicolor musical comedy with songs by Ira Gershwin and Kurt Weill. Fred MacMurray is amiable and easygoing. Joan Leslie is lovable as the girl best friend that is, of course, perfect for Fred but he doesn't see it yet. June Haver does fine in a role that would be easy to hate in a more serious movie. Fred and June met while making this and were later married. The songs are cute but nothing terribly impressive. Wait until you see MacMurray dance. Don't quit your day job, Fred! The Christopher Columbus operetta is probably the highlight. Enjoyable wartime fantasy that's very light and charming. Fun but never quite as good as it seems like it could be. Still, if you're a fan of the stars or old-school musicals you should like it.

Quantum Leap - 1940's style.

[Poseidon-3 · 23 August 2004]

Wartime patriotism and escapism blend together in this amiable, but unspectacular musical. MacMurray is a towering, ostensibly-hearty man who is graded 4-F by the government and thus cannot enter the Armed Forces during WWII. He wants nothing more than to join up and beat the "Japs" (with the possible exception of wooing Leslie.) One evening, while helping an old woman with some scrap metal, he resurrects a genie who, in gratitude, grants him several wishes. His primary wish, to be in the service, sends him reeling back in time to the Revolutionary War, where he is serving under George Washington! This sort of thing continues as he finds himself on Columbus's flagship, on the island of Manhattan back when it was Indian territory and in Puritanical times. (Interestingly, the Civil War is left out.) In all the time frames, he sees various incarnations of the two ladies (Leslie and Haver) he has flirtations with in 1945. Finally, the genie assists him back to the 20th century where he hopes to somehow enlist in the Army. MacMurray is a friendly, easy-going presence and has a nice enough, if not amazing, singing voice. The ladies are attractive and sing well, but are not particularly distinctive. The best singing in the film comes from the rich-toned Ramirez who threatens mutiny on Columbus in a mini-operetta. The humor is light and simple-minded. The film never aspires to be anything other than morale-building froth, which is what the country needed at the time. Though most of the music is pretty enough and the costumes and sets are colorful, there isn't really anything overly memorable or striking about the film. Apart from the Columbus section, the only really zippy part is a number in a canteen with all the branches of service and Leslie daringly dancing on barstools. Still, it's an easy, appealing movie that has variety, if nothing else. MacMurray infiltrates a German beer hall (which is presented as rather charming in spite of the fact that the US was at war with Germany at the time!) and imitates Adolph Hitler at one point. Quinn shows up as a "Me Indian Chief" sort of Native American character (while Leslie dons what had to be an eye-opening, for 1945, two-piece costume.) The film has some fairly innovative opening credits and some fairly decent (for the time) special effects. Coincidentally, MacMurray later married Haver in real-life (after her short-lived stint in the convent) though here he is more after Leslie. Ironically, Haver and MacMurray adopted twins while Leslie had a set of her own naturally.

One note: The first poster seems to have mistaken "uncredited" for "scenes deleted". While a section featuring Roy Rogers and Gabby Hayes was cut, that was basically it. Most of the performers listed after were just actors whose names failed to appear in the credits. They didn't have particular sequences that were cut.

**1/2

[edwagreen · 6/10 · 18 June 2015]

Anachronisms abound in this 1945 film.

Fred MacMurray actually sings here and he does a good job at it.

The story of a man who is physically unfit to serve during World War 11 is transported back in time by a genie who can't seem to get him back to modern day.

First, going back to the Revolutionary War Days, it was ridiculous and offensive to hear the Hessians saluting in the Nazi way.

We see MacMurray with Columbus and the Indians as well as with the settlements of New Amsterdam.

June Haver and Joan Leslie provide the love interests and Anthony Quinn appears as an Indian in the film.

Snazzy color fantasy musical spoof with wonderful irreverance and gentle teasing of history.

[mark.waltz · 6/10 · 8 June 2013]

When macho Fred MacMurray learns he's been declared "4-F" for military service (reduced to working in a metal recycling plant), his ego is greatly damaged, especially when the girl he loves (Joan Leslie) keeps turning him down for dates with men on active duty. With the help of a mischievous genie (Gene Sheldon) he locates in an antique bottle, he gets into the line of active duty: As a crew member on one of Christopher Columbus's ships, as a soldier at Valley Forge, and as a spy trying to get information from the German army for none other than George Washington himself. Sheldon's time travel device keeps him going further back in time from the Revolutionary War times to Manhattan Island when it was New Amsterdam. Scenes of the Native American dominated New York City are filled with "Airplane!" style humor, previously popularized in "Hellzapoppin'!" which includes deer stopping for traffic lights, a forest which has cross-streets posted for 42nd and Broadway, and natives who sell him Manhattan then set off in search of a fool dumb enough to buy Brooklyn.

It is this fluffy, fun attitude which makes this an absolute crowd-pleaser, and while you won't go home singing songs about Columbus's crew insisting that the world is flat, you won't hold your nose at them either. That production number is done in almost opera style with music by Kurt Weill and lyrics by Ira Gershwin who contribute different styles of music for each era that the film explores. Alan Mowbray is imperiously funny as George Washington (being warned by MacMurray about his companion, Benedict Arnold), and Anthony Quinn makes a cameo as a Native American who bamboozles MacMurray into buying property which he will utilize centuries later in order to keep girlfriend Leslie's look-alike from marrying someone she doesn't love. Leslie and June Haver (MacMurray's real-life wife) show up as several different characters, throwing confusion into MacMurray's way, but delight for the audience.

A neat idea...but a total misfire.

[planktonrules · 3/10 · 21 January 2019]

The idea behind "Where Do We Go from Here?" is an excellent one. Too bad the movie stinks....and it does indeed stink!

Bill Morgan (Fred MacMurray) is upset that he keeps getting rejected for military duty in WWII. He wants to do his part and get girls. So, when he discovers a magical vase and releases the genie, he asks to be able to fight in the war....but the dopey genie keeps sending him to the wrong wars and the film takes a trip through history.

Fred MacMurray is oddly cast in this film. This is because it's a musical and his singing talents are fair at best. His voice is thin but not unpleasant...but not the sort of guy you'd expect in the lead in a musical. Additionally, the comedy is limp and, combined with the songs, wears thin very, very quickly. Not fun to watch in the least.

By the way, trust me on this but the Columbus section repeats a lot of myths...such as that Columbus was trying to prove the world was round. Folks in 1492 KNEW the world was round...they just didn't want to head west because they had no idea what was there! The things you learn when you are a history teacher!

A movie with a few pasts

[SimonJack · 6/10 · 27 February 2017]

"Where Do We Go from Here" is a comedy, fantasy and musical that started out with a huge cast – with many small parts, but finished somewhat smaller. One can tell by the missing people from the cast list, and from the choppiness of the screenplay. The plot is OK and allows for Fox to use multiple wardrobes during this film. But there must have been quite a lot cut from the film.

Fred MacMurray is Bill Morgan, Joan Leslie is Sally Smith and June Haver is Lucilla Powell. They form the core of the various scenarios this script takes us through. Ira Gershwin wrote the lyrics for the songs by Kurt Weill. These are some of the best parts of the film. The performers all are good, and the film has light comedy. The funniest song is "Nina, The Pinta and the Santa Maria."

The best lines happen when Bill is transported back to the pilgrim days of America. Bill asks a passer-by the name of the girl in the park, and the gent doesn't understand Bill's 20th century English. So he tries again, "In the park, a girl there is sitting. Her name, me you could tell?" The gent answers with a nod and smile, "Katrina."

After resolving a major problem over Manhattan Island (can anyone guess), Bill tells Katrina, "See it now, I can. For me in the whole world, the only girl you are." Katrina, "So glad I am. But, change your mind, what made you?" Actually that sounds like something from the future as well—well, the past future. Doesn't it sound a lot like Yoda in the Star Wars films?

This is light entertainment that some will enjoy. Others may be bored or soon lose interest.

Two great talents miss

[ilprofessore-1 · 5/10 · 4 February 2019]

This heavy-handed big-budget 1945 Fox Technicolor comedy-romance musical features a great deal of rarely heard mediocre music, most of it by two of the greatest songwriters in the history of musical theater: the German composer Kurt Weill [ThreePenny Opera) and the American lyricist Ira Gershwin, George's brother, (Porgy and Bess). The only number among many that somehow rises above the ordinary is a well-staged ten-minute operetta parody, The Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria, with clever W.S. Gilbert-type lyrics by Gershwin, well sung by Columbian tenor, Carlos Ramirez as the mutinous Benito, Fortunio Bonanova (the music teacher in Citizen Kane) as Columbus, and the ever reliable Fred MacMurray, as always doing his very best to bring some life to feeble songs, dialogue, and silly situations. Throughout the film, Fred sings, reasonably, and on one brief occasion even tries to dance, badly, as he pursues two beautiful young woman through time--the charming June Haver and the lovely Joan Leslie. Gregory Ratoff, who could do better and did sometimes, is credited as director, although George Seaton did a number of uncredited scenes. Otto Preminger, before he stopped acting to direct, can be seen briefly in one of his nasty German general roles, and Tony Quinn in one of his many Indian parts, this time played for comedy.

Genie Eith The Light Brown Air

[writers_reign · 5/10 · 14 October 2020]

Kurt Weill and Ira Gershwin were both major players when working with others but less successful as collaborators witness their Broadway flop Firebrand Of Florence featuring Weill's wife, Lotte Lenya. This film has the air of Broadway origins despite being written for the screen. Fox had a decent roster of musical talent on the Lot, John Payne, Dick Haymes, Don Ameche, Betty Grable etc yet opted for Paramount leading man, not known previously for singing and dancing. As virtually always Ira's lyrics were out of the right bottle but Weill's music fails to beguile and the quality of the ten-minute operetta in the Columbus sequence contrasts sharply with the rest of the footage. Worth a watch as a curio.

good propagandistic musical! :)

[mapinta · 10/10 · 8 March 2006]

I happened to see this movie twice or more and found it well made! WWII had freshly ended and the so-called "Cold War" was about to begin. This movie could, therefore, be defined as one of the best "propaganda", patriotic movies preparing Americans and, secondly, people from the still to be formed "Western NATO block" of countries to face the next coming menace. The movie celebrates the might of the US, through the centuries, while projecting itself onwards to the then present war, which had just ended. Nice and funny is the way of describing the discovering of the American Continent by Columbus and pretty the "espisode" of New Amsterdam and the purchasing of Manhattan from a drunk local Indian .. Must see it (at least once, for curiosity of fashion of propaganda through time)! :)

Where Did This One Come From?

[Sleepy-17 · 21 April 2003]

This film is from 1945, in gorgeous (but a little too dark in the night-time scenes) Technicolor, with songs by Kurt Weill and Ira Gershwin! It's a war-time pageant and everyone wants to get in the army, and a genie appears to help Fred MacMurray do a "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" entry into various times of American history. Anthony Quinn is funny as a street-smart Indian, and I never realized how gorgeous June Haver and Joan Leslie were. So-so songs and a terrible title explain how unknown this goofy film is. Gregory Ratoff was evidentially a better actor (Symphony for Six Million) than a director, but at 77 minutes this film is worth your time, especially if you like musicals. Nice to look at, and the choreography is pretty amusing.

Marvelous little film and unique for its time

[AlsExGal · 8/10 · 6 January 2023]

This is a delightful fantasy operetta romp through American history, with a score by Kurt Weill and lyrics by Ira Gershwin.

Bill Morgan (Fred MacMurray) wants to join the Army but is ruled 4F. Instead, he is put in charge of local scrap recycling. He breaks a lamp, and frees a genie. Morgan tell the genie he wants to get into the Army--but doesn't mention which century he wants. Morgan's girlfriends Sally (Joan Leslie) and Lucilla (June Haver) accompany him through the centuries.

The fine score carries the film through and past its sillier moments. Leslie has the best song - "If Love Remains". The Christopher Columbus segment is done as an opera with MacMurray breaking up the grand opera with a patter song in the style of Gilbert and Sullivan. Haver is the liveliest of the three, as a born con woman, throughout the centuries. Watch for Anthony Quinn and read the traffic signs--no matter what century they're in.

Really loved this movie!

[guyzell42 · 10/10 · 18 March 2009]

Saw it as many times as I could before it left the scene. A delightful and entertaining film with some of my very favorite stars. Only wish I could find it again! Would certainly buy/view it if I could. Please, somebody, bring it back. Fred MacMurray was perfect in his role as a patriot during World War II, and his leading ladies, Joan Leslie, and especially June Haver were beautiful and charming. It was a musical, but also romantic, funny, and clever. This was my favorite movie starring June Haver, although I always liked her. Her dazzling smile lit up the screen, and her beauty and talent were an asset to any film. The supporting cast lent credit to their individual roles. A well-balanced and light-hearted film; only wish we had more like it!

Cute, Disneyesque film

[daisybtoes · 8/10 · 4 September 2006]

If you haven't seen this obscure little charmer, you should seek it out. It is the story of a bumbling, wartime Sad Sack (Fred MacMurray) who is listed 4-F each time he attempts to join any branch of the military. He finds a magic lamp which of course contains a genie (Gene Sheldon), but the genie is even more bumbling than MacMurray is, sending him across time to serve in all the wrong times and places than the one he wants. It is cute, cheerful, and pure fluff, and you can't help but like it. The plots is much like a Disney film, particularly since the two stars (MacMurray and Sheldon) both made numerous Disney films in the 50's and 60's, although not together. Needless to say, it all ends well for everyone, and the viewer goes away feeling pretty good.

Almost - and Should Be - Rediscovered!

[churei · 8/10 · 1 April 2004]

During a Kurt Weill celebration in Brooklyn, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? was finally unearthed for a screening. It is amazing that a motion picture, from any era, that has Weill-Gershwin collaborations can possibly be missing from the screens. The score stands tall, and a CD of the material, with Gershwin and Weill, only underscores its merits, which are considerable. Yes, the film has its problems, but the score is not one of them. Ratoff is not in his element as the director of this musical fantasy, and Fred MacMurray cannot quite grasp the material. Then, too, the 'modern' segment is weakly written. BUT the fantasy elements carry the film to a high mark, as does the work of the two delightful leading ladies - Joan Leslie and June Haver. Both have the charm that this kind of work desperately needs to work. As a World War II salute to our country's history - albeit in a 'never was' framework, the film has its place in Hollywood musical history and should be available for all to see and to find its considerable merits.