“The View” host Sunny Hostin revealed on the PBS documentary series “Finding Your Roots” that Nancy Grace is responsible for her stage name. Hostin’s birth name is Asunción Cummings, but she said Grace “struggled” to pronounce it on air and went ahead and changed it to “Sunny” almost immediately after Hostin told her that’s what some of her friends called her growing up. Hostin appeared alongside Grace on Court TV back in the day.

“She struggled, every take,” Hostin said (via Entertainment Weekly). “It was just so crazy. She couldn’t get it. Then she said, at the break, ‘Can I say something to you?’ I was like, ‘Sure.’ She was like, ‘Do you have another name? A nickname?’ And she just kept at it. She was basically telling me, ‘You’re very good at this, but that name is not gonna fly. You need to just go by a nickname.