Definitely the darkest episode of South Park since "The Damned" but cartman's manipulation of Heidi is insanely good. It's Cartman at his best, but with a girlfriend this time. Seeing kyle trying to split them up after seeing all of the abuse Heidi puts up with is completely understandable but kyle always makes things worse. Meanwhile the subplot with president garrison is absolutely hilarious. Overall 7.3/10
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Pretty deep episode, setting up the next episodes.
hamsterination8 November 2017
Warning: Spoilers
This episode is probably one of the best of this season, a little like drinking a fresh lemonade while in a heatwave.
I must say that what got me in this episode is the part at Token's house, I even almost saw a politically incorrect humor, never seen for years in South Park. This is exactly what people are looking when they are watching South Park: dark humor about political incorrectness.
But it's a pretty exciting episode when we look up at Cartman & Heidi relationship. They exploited a really interesting part of social behaving & relationship.
Even if the season 21 was not so good so far, this episode brings hope about the denouement of the season.
I must say that what got me in this episode is the part at Token's house, I even almost saw a politically incorrect humor, never seen for years in South Park. This is exactly what people are looking when they are watching South Park: dark humor about political incorrectness.
But it's a pretty exciting episode when we look up at Cartman & Heidi relationship. They exploited a really interesting part of social behaving & relationship.
Even if the season 21 was not so good so far, this episode brings hope about the denouement of the season.
Sad 😢
FlorianLaur24 March 2023
Warning: Spoilers
I personally enjoyed season 18-21 a lot, mainly because it had one long storyline. A big part of it for me was the Heiman relationship (Heidi Cartman).
It was just sweet and different to finally see a side of Eric we hadn't seen since the very early seasons.
Does anyone still remember that despite being a prick, Eric actually was always a child who suffered a lot from never having a male role model and a mother who is an enabler?
Of course he is a selfish person and I am not going to say none of it is his fault. But we have seen in "Tsst" that Cartman actually CAN change! In episodes like Fatcamp or My Future Self and Me, he also seemed self aware.
So I don't completely agree with Kyle that Cartman will always blame others. He may now, but he didn't before.
That's why I am quite sad to see that Southpark doesn't take the opportunity to let him change a little.
I mean, this is a show that by now has pretty much written Kenny out of the show. And Kenny's character also was changed from the kid dying to...I don't know, the poor background character? So why can't they allow Eric to find some happiness?
I really feel bad for Heidi, because she also changed. Compared to the rather mean girl she was in Marjorine, she seems like a very sincere and compassionate girl. And Cartman WAS a really good boyfriend for a while, so it's not like he couldn't be one. He also seems to realize on some level that Heidi is good for him. It's just all that toxic learned behavior he would have to get past.
It is too late now, because they scrapped that storyline in season 21, but I always thought this was one of the last truly good stories and they gave it all up for a show that no longer is about 4 naive kids from Colorado going to school.
I really wish Eric and Heidi could have been happy together, even on a cynical show like Southpark.
It was just sweet and different to finally see a side of Eric we hadn't seen since the very early seasons.
Does anyone still remember that despite being a prick, Eric actually was always a child who suffered a lot from never having a male role model and a mother who is an enabler?
Of course he is a selfish person and I am not going to say none of it is his fault. But we have seen in "Tsst" that Cartman actually CAN change! In episodes like Fatcamp or My Future Self and Me, he also seemed self aware.
So I don't completely agree with Kyle that Cartman will always blame others. He may now, but he didn't before.
That's why I am quite sad to see that Southpark doesn't take the opportunity to let him change a little.
I mean, this is a show that by now has pretty much written Kenny out of the show. And Kenny's character also was changed from the kid dying to...I don't know, the poor background character? So why can't they allow Eric to find some happiness?
I really feel bad for Heidi, because she also changed. Compared to the rather mean girl she was in Marjorine, she seems like a very sincere and compassionate girl. And Cartman WAS a really good boyfriend for a while, so it's not like he couldn't be one. He also seems to realize on some level that Heidi is good for him. It's just all that toxic learned behavior he would have to get past.
It is too late now, because they scrapped that storyline in season 21, but I always thought this was one of the last truly good stories and they gave it all up for a show that no longer is about 4 naive kids from Colorado going to school.
I really wish Eric and Heidi could have been happy together, even on a cynical show like Southpark.
Deeper than at first glance
db52827 November 2017
Warning: Spoilers
I watched this episode twice. The story revolves around Eric's exploitive and emotionally abusive relationship with Heidi, who keeps insisting to her friends that Eric has a good side, and that her decision to become his girlfriend was not a mistake.
Scenes with Donald Trump are interspersed in the episode. At first viewing, I didn't see the connection. When Ryan, McConnell, and Pence show Trump his tanking approval ratings, Trump says, "It's not a problem. See, I know something about societal psychology that you three turd balls don't. Everything's going to be fine."
Heidi can't take the abuse anymore and finally breaks up with Eric. But when her friends say things like, they are glad she finally wised up, they couldn't imagine how she could have kissed Eric, etc., she has second thoughts.
After watching the episode the second time I realized that the Trump scenes are relevant. Eric symbolizes Trump, and Heidi symbolizes Trump voters. The societal psychology that Trump was talking about was the fact that people don't like to admit, even to themselves, that they made a mistake. And when they are ridiculed for their bad choice, even if they realize it was a bad choice, they double down. It's just human nature.
Scenes with Donald Trump are interspersed in the episode. At first viewing, I didn't see the connection. When Ryan, McConnell, and Pence show Trump his tanking approval ratings, Trump says, "It's not a problem. See, I know something about societal psychology that you three turd balls don't. Everything's going to be fine."
Heidi can't take the abuse anymore and finally breaks up with Eric. But when her friends say things like, they are glad she finally wised up, they couldn't imagine how she could have kissed Eric, etc., she has second thoughts.
After watching the episode the second time I realized that the Trump scenes are relevant. Eric symbolizes Trump, and Heidi symbolizes Trump voters. The societal psychology that Trump was talking about was the fact that people don't like to admit, even to themselves, that they made a mistake. And when they are ridiculed for their bad choice, even if they realize it was a bad choice, they double down. It's just human nature.
The Greatest South Park Episode in a While
sherifhusseinezzat11 April 2018
The characters are true to themselves. We get to see them be themselves in new and intriguing situations.
The two storylines are impeccably implemented together to give a meaningful form, something which has been lacking more often than not lately.
The theme is amazing, the morale important. and the perspective fresh.
South Park at its best, FINALLY 10/10
South Park at its best, FINALLY 10/10
An Excellent, Psychologically Detailed Episode
ericks-8689211 November 2017
Finally, a popular show that approaches Trump and Trump supporters with empathy and psychological understanding. It's an abusive relationship and psychologically complex (gaslighting is at least one important factor), and while those that make fun of Trump aren't wrong, a serious and crass misunderstanding is keeping those that support him behind him through it all.
Funny, clever... and EMOTIONAL
leospakka11 November 2017
South Park is back! It has always been funny, outrageous, gory, rude and always very clever. But now it is also emotional. One of the best episode in South Park history, super funny, deep and real. Heidi and Cartman's love-story is playing a major role in this series and it is affecting me a lot. The reaction of Cartman going through a break up is exactly how you would imagine, but so far we have never seen him under this circumstance.
Member the member grapes?
ericstevenson11 November 2017
Well, I guess I can feel better about myself. I was initially disappointed all my "South Park" episode reviews received such low ratings. I now realize that all the reviews of the episodes are low! Well, here at least. Okay, let's just get to the actual episode. I love this one because it focused more on Cartman's relationship with Heidi. Cartman getting a girlfriend has been a very interesting development in the show's run. It was great to see cameos by the member grapes! It wasn't much, but it's good to know they're still around.
It was a bit hard to tell what this episode was satirizing. I thought I had been keeping up in current events. Anyway, they actually do show some good animation in this episode when Cartman imagines Kyle ruining his relationship. It was great to see Cartman finally physically confront Kyle over this and lose easily. It seems like Cartman's strength varies depending on the episode. This was mostly mocking Donald Trump's low approval rating, but that was inevitable. ***1/2
It was a bit hard to tell what this episode was satirizing. I thought I had been keeping up in current events. Anyway, they actually do show some good animation in this episode when Cartman imagines Kyle ruining his relationship. It was great to see Cartman finally physically confront Kyle over this and lose easily. It seems like Cartman's strength varies depending on the episode. This was mostly mocking Donald Trump's low approval rating, but that was inevitable. ***1/2
5
Edvis-199712 January 2019
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