13 Reasons Why (TV Series) Tape 4, Side A (2017) User Reviews

Tape 4, Side A (#1.7)

[ComedyFan2010 · 9/10 · 6 August 2017]

This was a great episode even though I once again don't see the big deal. Actually what Zach did was absolutely harmless. She was even meaner to him by letting her anger on Marcus at Zach in a very public manner. He is one who shouldn't even worry if those tapes come out.

I actually liked Zach. I also don't get why Clay wanted to have revenge on him since he doesn't know what he did to Hannah yet and it can't be more harmless than what Zach did.

I liked how it was keeping up on suspense. First we were made to believe that it was Clay's tape even though I pretty much guessed it will be Zach based on the last episode.

It also makes one think that maybe Heather is lying or that her perspective isn't the correct one, since he was wrong that Zach threw away her letter.

The Real Truth

[ZegMaarJus · 8/10 · 16 April 2024]

This Episode begins with Clay, he listens to Tape 4, Side A of Hannah's tape series. Zach comforts Hannah at the restaurant, she was crying. A basketball game takes place at school today, Clay is attending the game. Clay sees Hannah on the ground during the basketball game, but it was just a vision. Clay scratched Zach's car, because he is one of the reasons why Hannah committed suicide. Clay tells Tony that he can't hear Hannah's voice anymore, he doesn't want to listen to the tapes. Clay goes crazy, he tells everybody what kind of school Liberty High is. Nice Episode of 13 Reasons Why Season 1, this was good. Episode with a lot of events!

Lessons

[vivianla · 5 May 2020]

I liked how Clay's dad stated that Clay should take on something that brings him joy like how he did with activities in high school. Clay states how horrible the school is and how mean the kids are. It's a horrible world.

Ep. 7 Best So far

[shortpuppy · 10/10 · 8 June 2020]

This def. the best episode so far. Things really come to a head as the guilt & pressure build up in Clay. It manifests in several scenes where he lashes out inappropriately, only to find out he was only saying those things, not really saying anything.

Finally near the end, he explodes for real. And it is entirely appropriate, but of course the school admin doesn't see it that way.

As usual the acting is first rate. Especially Dylant Minnette' Clay.

To respond to some reviews that missed what Zach's big crime was: he was stealing everything for Hannah's compliment bag, in the 2 weeks since she rejects his awkward advance in the cafeteria. She had grown very dependent on the compliments to counteract the ubiquitous 'mean girl' treatment she'd been getting since her pic posted. Aside from that posting, this is the worst thing that's been done to her, (as of this episode.)

Tape 4, Side A (#1.7)

[meydiana-65242 · 10/10 · 25 October 2022]

Eps. 7 is best so far

This def. The best episode so far. Things really come to a head as the guilt & pressure build up in Clay. It manifests in several scenes where he lashes out inappropriately, only to find out he was only saying those things, not really saying anything.

Finally near the end, he explodes for real. And it is entirely appropriate, but of course the school admin doesn't see it that way.

As usual the acting is first rate. Especially Dylant Minnette' Clay.

To respond to some reviews that missed what Zach's big crime was: he was stealing everything for Hannah's compliment bag, in the 2 weeks since she rejects his awkward advance in the cafeteria. She had grown very dependent on the compliments to counteract the ubiquitous 'mean girl' treatment she'd been getting since her pic posted. Aside from that posting, this is the worst thing that's been done to her, (as of this episode.)

Episode 7

[projectsgamer · 10/10 · 16 March 2021]

Episode 7 is about Clay sabotages Zach's car Clay's start's having nightmares about Hannah

It could just be me, but...

[san1888 · 6/10 · 5 June 2020]

So, this episode focuses on what Zach Dempsey did to Hannah and it could just be me, but I really don't think what Zach did to her was worth a tape. I know that what he did wasn't so nice, but it wasn't as big as Justin or Tyler. What Zach said in the cafeteria wasn't as bad as she made it out to be, Hannah blew it way out of proportion. Of course what he said wasn't good, but he didn't mean it in the way Hannah made it out to be. He simply was saying that she thought that guys liked her because of the list, but Hannah took it the wrong way. And talking about Clay's notes he stole, although Hannah really needed them I really don't think that it was a reason to give him a whole tape! What Zach did was bad but I feel like giving him a tape was just plain stupid, I really believe he didn't do anything.

I am undecided..

[ihatechoosingusernames05 · 5/10 · 7 April 2017]

I didn't read this book. This show..as a stand alone show is definitely watchable..but the message I don't like..I am sorry it is not realistic...I had teenagers and I was a teenager. I was bullied in school..I hated high school..it was awful, i mean AWFUL!

I also battle depression and suicide....but not because people were mean to me. Teenage suicide is sad, and it is an issue...but to blame it on other people is weak...Suicide is a choice. When people make it they are indeed in pain. Suicide is also about the lack of coping skills we have to deal with our problems. It is so much deeper than insults, and break-ups, not being liked etc...

High-school is no walk in the park for most people. The so-called popular kids are even dealing with some crap..The thing about high- school is that its 4 years of your life..and it is over. When you are an adult none of that matters..There aren't anymore "popular" kids, "mean" kids to deal with...I know when you are going through it..it seems like forever..but being a teen is tough. We are adults for most of our lives...life is so much bigger than that.

So far...what I have seen is petty stuff that is happening to this girl. It is terrible to be bullied and picked on..and bullying is unacceptable, but suicide is not the answer. Blaming other children for a suicide isn't either. The fact that this girl had the mindset to leave all these tapes..to so-called punish people for what they supposedly did to her...it seems that she had enough mindset to know what she was doing. She didn't even leave a note for her parents...

I sympathize with anyone who is hurting, because I spent my whole childhood feeling lonely, being picked on..and hurting. As an adult I still feel lonely and a lot pain..I know when I have had suicidal "situations" (i will just leave it at that)..it was not because of other people..yes i have a lot a pain, yes i have had terrible things happen to me..but suicide is a self-inflicted..it is because we can't cope...period.

We can't control what other people do, or say..we can only control how we react or handle it..I haven't gotten to the end of it..but I can tell that sexual assault is probably one of the tapes...That is so awful..( i have dealt with that personally, and worse). I know to have to deal with that is one of the worse feelings..and yes for a sexual assault the individual should definitely be punished. I know it is not east to come forward (when I was teen I never spoke about mine) and sometimes the punishment never happens. It is a lot to carry, but still..suicide is ultimately the individuals choice.

These kids are all screwed up in some kind of way..as teenagers usually are..but to blame other KIDS for her suicide..NO that's just a cop out., it is weak. If someone doesn't want to live anymore, that is a choice..but do not tell someone it is because they made fun of you or stopped being your friend or any of that.it is because the individual can not cope with the hardships of life, their life what ever it is. Should there be punishment for bullying? Sure. Would it help? No, humans will still be assholes, and say and do bad things. As evidenced by the fact that people break laws knowing there is punishment and still do it..people go to jail and get out and still break the same law.

This girl at a young age, decided she couldn't go on. She hadn't even lived yet, and she treated everything like it was the end of the world. It is clear she had awuful coping skills, and needed some support. If someone doesn't speak up how will people know. She coped by ending her life as sad as it is, that was her choice..and if I got those tapes..I couldn't have listened to them..and if i did...I wouldn't feel guilty...She was troubled..she knew she was, she needed help..reaching out to other troubled adolescents was not the answer..reaching to a parent..or a trusted adult..probably better..even then we are not promised the outcome we want. That is life..we are ALL human..all screwed up in some kind of way..How each of us CHOOSE to deal with it..is on us..we don't have a right to blame others for our choices...That is real. Shooting up schools, killing people, or killing yourself..that's on the individual that made the choice to do so..and only them...sorry..People who choose that would have broken down at some point in their life regardless. I am not victim blaming..I don't see this girl as a victim of nothing but..depression, adolescence, and loneliness.

In a perfect world, yes we should all be nice, and mindful of what we say and do to people. It isn't a perfect world, because it is made up of imperfect people. I wouldn't nor should anyone else feel blame for someone's suicide. ..it's ridiculous..we are just living here trying to figure out how to live in this messed up world.

Lastly, people should think about what they are saying or doing. Be mindful of how they treat people. Of course it is a wrong and a right way to treat someone. Bullying, is unacceptable. Assault is unacceptable. It is all very gray..no easy answer or solution. We can't go through life feeling responsible for whether someone lives or dies unless a person literally takes a life. We are allowed to feel what we want, and say what we like. It is life...deal with it because all you control (still how much control is limited) is yourself and your own life..

Back to the show to finish..