After Porn Ends 2 (2017) User Reviews

Maybe Im just old or too nostaltgic

[BlasphemousMusic · 7/10 · 20 April 2018]

Ok, I think this is my first review of a movie here. This isnt going to be a professional review, maybe not even that well written, but I felt compelled after watching this and seeing other reviews.

Ok, I watched the first one, After Porn Ends, a while back and watched it again a few weeks ago. I was fascinated by their stories of things we would normally never see nor hear about. I mean after they leave the business, most people just forget about them and move on to others. Well I found it really intriguing to hear what they are now doing and how they left the business.

I dont want to make this really drawn out so on with After Porn Ends 2. Most if not all the criticism I see for this is their age. Oh they are showing old people who are retired and made their careers eons ago... Maybe this is where my age or consumption comes in. Im not old, 39, but im not young either. I grew up watching stars in this film, especially Chasey Lain. I recall just turning 18 and watching interview with a vibrator, which wasnt the best thing I'd ever seen, but it was ok and she was stellar. So shortly after I watched this, she actually had an appearance in a local strip mall and a friend and I went to it. She was so nice, funny and so down to earth. She signed a poster for me, took pictures...etc

That being said, she isnt new, she isnt a webcam girl or on one of the new internet sites. However for me, this is someone I knew, someone I watched, someone im interested to know where has she been, what has become of her after porn ended.

The devil is miss jones I had known about and was able to view many moons ago. I found it really neat to see her today and tell some of her story. This goes for all of them, even if I had never heard of them or their films, I personally felt really interested in everything they shared.

So, I found this film MUCH different then others did. I dont know what they were expecting really, its exactly what the title is and it showcases very very popular actors and actresses in the industry. Maybe the lack of nudity in some where people wanted to see more? If you want good stories, hear about some older (and not so much older) stars, this is a great follow up.

Porn Stars Always Get It In The End!

[ThatMonkey · 6/10 · 16 April 2022]

This series exposed porn for what it is, a soul sucking industry. When you have talent blaming the world for living in a van, when they made millions of dollars, it's clear the issue is low intelligence combined with zero money managing skills. Any contract star or super talent in the industry should be able to make money, save money and retire.

A friend of mine danced for 4 summers and in each summer, she earned enough to pay tuition, rent on her apartment and have all the cash she needed to entertain herself. This was the 90's and I remember her telling me, I make almost $1,000 per night, and I'm a clean dancer, the girls that are dirty make 2-3 times as much.

What I find most funny about this series is 90% of the talent profiled end up back in the business. I am going to assume that is based on maintaining a lifestyle, but for some it could also be to maintain ego. Either way at the end of the day it reveals the "Problem with Pretty". Just because someone cleans up and looks sexy with porn hair and porn makeup, doesn't make them smart. Listening to some of these women speak, you are left with the impression they are high school dropouts.

Porn is the biggest collection of idiots, the industry generates billions, but production companies fold, and no one has anything to show for it. Leads me to believe the entire business is fueled by drugs.

More retirement life after ...

[kosmasp · 6/10 · 13 January 2018]

I just read, that someone was not satisfied (no pun intended) with the selection of the retired porn stars chosen for this sequel documentary (I don't think there are many sequels to documentaries, although there is Inconvinient Truth part 2 too, so ...). But this is about getting to know what people go through, and there is actually one interesting part that has to do with protection being used and why porn stars may have a point in not using them.

There's also one particular star that you may not agree with, but the stories are interesting enough. And as with the first one, we do get an ending bit with more "recent" information on their lives and what they've been up to since the interviews had been conducted. But in the movie itself, this time around, you also get people who are in the business right now and their outlook on what they see in their future. Let's see if they add anything to the third one (nudity and more obviously included in this, but no explicit stuff)

Not Even Skin Deep

[ascheland · 4/10 · 20 August 2017]

The follow-up to "After Porn Ends" might be better titled "Retired Porn Stars Briefly Reminisce." It's not quite as catchy as "After Porn Ends 2," but it's more accurate.

As with the first one, director Bryce Wagoner points his camera at a sampling of retired and semi-retired porn stars from the '70s, '80s, '90s and '00s and lets them tell their stories, most of which are brief and not terribly illuminating. A majority of the subjects fall into two camps: Thanks to porn, my life is GREAT! (Lisa Ann, Brittany Adams, Tabitha Stevens); and: So I made f--- films. What's it to you? (Georgina Spelvin, Ginger Lynn, Johnnie Keyes). Darren James, whose HIV diagnosis shut down (straight) porn production in 2004, has a story that's at once cautionary and inspirational. Chasey Lain, sounding and looking spent, does little more than gripe about the pay split at the Bunny Ranch. The saddest of the bunch is Janine Lindemulder, now living with her mother (or so it's implied), battling depression after a stint in prison for income tax evasion and losing custody of her daughter, and sporting more tattoos than a member of the Yakuza.

If Wagoner's first documentary didn't fully penetrate its subjects, "After Porn Ends 2" doesn't even get skin deep, with much of the documentary playing like a series of "Where Are They Now?" segments on "Entertainment Tonight." Spelvin has offered more insight to the porn business in the interviews she gave for 2005's "Inside Deep Throat," and Lynn (a.k.a. Ginger Lynn Allen), now an abstract painter, would've been better served by an update of her E! "True Hollywood Story" episode. Lisa Ann--who should really consider switching to decaf-- and Adams seem more more into self-promotion than self-reflection. Keyes, now a jazz musician, actually breaks down when recalling his abusive father, but diminishes the poignancy of that moment by making it clear he doesn't have a high opinion of women. Most frustrating is the segment on Lain, who talks about having interests outside of porn, but never revealing what those interests are. Her demeanor also suggests she's gone through some rough patches, but like her other interests, those are kept close to Lain's chest.

A few stray observations are made about racism and misogyny in the industry. Lisa Ann says she was told to avoid interracial scenes because they would hurt her career, advice that she ignored once she was no longer under contract. "All the company owners are secretly racist," she says. The only person to bring up sexism in the industry is a man, Herschel Savage, who says that with the exception of the performers, men in the porn business don't really like women. The women interviewed don't weigh in, preferring to talk about anal sex than sexist a- holes.

Peppered throughout this documentary are brief interviews with current porn stars. Though some appear to understand that performing sex on camera means that later they'll either have to go into business for themselves or, at the very least, move to behind the scene roles in the industry, there are a couple who naively think that they can move on to mainstream careers without their porn pasts following them. Someone should check back with them in a few years to see how that goes. That someone, however, should not be Bryce Wagoner.

Even more shallow than you would think

[parkerstevens135 · 3/10 · 11 June 2017]

I'm honestly confused on why this is even considered a documentary when in reality, it's simply random interviews with quite frankly has been adult film actors. The majority of these underwhelming interviews are just ex-adult film stars complaining how the industry is different than when the first started 20+ years ago. It's a no brainer that obviously the internet has changed the entire world. However each of these grudge holding actors seem to be incapable of understanding that simple aspect. Yes, pornography has changed to fit the more popular consumer however these stars are blinded by their unwarranted need for spotlight even after they have retired.

Good Follow Up

[Michael_Elliott · 11 September 2018]

After Porn Ends 2 (2017)

*** (out of 4)

This documentary is basically a continuation of the first film and has a new line of retired and somewhat retired porn stars talking about what they did after leaving the business. You've got classic stars like Georgina Spelvin, Ginger Lynn and Johnnie Keyes as well as more recent people like Lisa Ann, Brittany Adams, Tabitha Stevens and Chasey Lain. You've also got Darren James telling his story, which involves him getting HIV and bringing it into the business.

For the most part this here is an entertaining film but it falls well short of the original. I think the biggest problem is that a lot of the stories being told here were told in the first one so there's really nothing new or fresh here. Another problem is that it seems a lot of the people here are too new to have much of a career after the business. It seems these folks like to brag about what they're currently doing but not too much of this is overly interesting.

The highlight of the film is without question the interview with Keyes who talks about his carer and he's as funny as ever. He also breaks down in tears when it comes to talking about his childhood. Spelvin and Lynn are also very good in their stories. Another interesting discussion deals with escorts and how a lot of the new porn performers are making a name for themselves so that they can break away and become escorts. The fact that there aren't any real "stars" in porn today is also talked about.

If you're a fan of the genre then there are enough good stories to make this worth watching but it's certainly a step down from the original.

A Big Nope

[kackyw · 1/10 · 3 August 2017]

The first one was informative and even a little poignant with one or two really sad, needy people.

But I couldn't get through the first segment of this one, the person was so apparently high and jabbering a mile a minute, but not saying anything.

No idea what you are trying to accomplish here, it's just sleazy. I feel like we're exploiting a drug abuser.

Really guys? Behind the green door?

[Eddie_weinbauer · 4/10 · 3 April 2017]

It's 2017, and they can't get someone more recently retired?? The first documentary was actually quite good and interesting,but this one just seem like it's made out of what was left on the cutting room floor. Ginger Lynn was an interesting interview too a certain degree.But it gets old really fast. The stars they have are too far in the past.

I miss someone more relevant to the internet age, side of porn.After doing a little fast googling,you can see that it's more porn made for direct to internet, than the over the counter marked.

But maybe those people didn't wanna do it,cause they managed to be forgotten by the world.And holds down normal life jobs.

But still they should have found someone more relevant,to the current times. But mostly they dug up "old" pornostars,who seem very little relevant.To the internet age.They talk about box covers.(VHS/DVD.) for Christ sake. I mean c'mon, that marked is nearly gone

The one thing most of these girls have in common though,is that they quit the business.Than realize there is nothing for them out here,that pays that well as porn did.Or Nobody wants to hire someone from the porn business.And they sooner or later get recognized,and porn is the only thing that put food on the table.

Go and watch the first one instead.Cause this was bad.

Not what you expect.

[aaronwatkins-23026 · 8/10 · 27 December 2018]

I'll be honest; I'm not the sort for documentaries and even less so for gushing about them afterwards...

However, this film is one of the funniest, saddest and most touching things I have ever seen. It really shows how a disseperate group of people were affected by thier time in the adult industry.

It is really worth a watch because it is interesting and well shot.

After Porn Ends 2

[jboothmillard · 5/10 · 24 June 2021]

Let's be honest, most of us (blokes especially) have watched or been curious about pornography at least once (or many times). I remember seeing this documentary film, or one or two of the others in the series, listed on Netflix, and I was interested to watch it, especially seeing adult stars I may recognise. Basically, the film explores what happens to the actresses and actors who have been in the adult industry, how and why they got into it, their experiences after leaving the industry, and whether it is possible to live a normal life following their exposure (fame, being nude, having sex onscreen, and everything else). Interviewed and sharing their experiences before, during and after being in porn are: Brittany Andrews, Chasey Lain, Darren James, Georgina Spelvin, Janine Lindemulder, Johnnie Keyes, Lisa Ann and Tabitha Stevens. It also includes short interviews from current pornographic stars, including: Ariana Marie, Ashley Adams, Aubrey Gold, Danny D, Donny Sins, Ginger Lynn and Jenevieve Hexxx. Most of the stars left the industry to concentrate on a marriage or having children, turning to religion or politics (especially campaigning about the negative aspects of the industry), or just wanting to find themselves and do other things. All the stars talk about the positive aspects of the industry, from the fame (hanging out with other adult stars and celebrities), the fortune, and the experiences (sexual or not), including the changes that came in each decade (from softcore to hardcore magazines, cinema screenings, home video, the internet, and attitudes towards body types, ethnicities, tattoos, etc). They are also open about the negative things that come with being in pornography, including negative press, troubles with personal and public relationships, friendships, health problems, finding other employment, and knowing that whatever they do next, they cannot fully escape their past. You may be fascinated if you recognise the former adult stars talking about themselves, and even if you don't, this is a part of the multi-million business that perhaps not thought of as much, and it makes for some interesting stories. There are obviously parts of the film that will cause distress when they discuss the bad things that can happen going into an industry built around being naked and having sex onscreen, but it gives you a good insight into the people behind the flesh you have seen on video and on the internet, a reasonable documentary. Worth watching!

Familiar Territory

[Credoinunumdeum · 6 June 2017]

Nothing new to explore in this supposed documentary on former and current pornographic film, video and digital sex performers. All of this subject matter has been covered already in far superior projects.

There are many sad reminders in After Porn Ends 2 that those who entered the porn business suffer wrecked lives after their short-lived careers as sex stars. Few depicted here have any viable or meaningful way to live life in the present. Most of those interviewed who think they've somehow transitioned to whole, respectful and purposeful lives after having prostituted themselves in front of a film, video or digital camera are living illusory lives. A Porsche in front of a lovely suburban home does not equal success and meaningfulness.

If After Porn Ends 2 possesses any value, it probably exists as a warning to young and unimaginative women to stay clear of the porn business. Former male pornographic actor Herschel Savage sums up porn in his very brief interview as being essentially misogynistic. Too bad more of this theme could not have been explored.

Nothing New to Say

[refinedsugar · 5/10 · 28 February 2024]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every porn documentary has something to say about this business, the people within, but the hard part is finding a nugget of truth you haven't already seen or heard before. Fun moments, a fair bit of tragedy, damaged people before & after. 'After Porn Ends 2' continues giving both sides of the table but a lot is old hat.

I've listened to Lisa Ann interviews the most of any pornstar and she always comes off bright, positive, well spoken. You're just never sure what's an image and she's versed in self promotion. That's what her appearance here captures as she was retired from the industry once again, doing satellite radio and releasing a book circa 2017.

I don't think it's necessary to run out the rest of the stories here, but needless to say it charts the usual courses. There were two standouts for me. One they give Darren James a podium to talk about his HIV diagnosis and moving on with life after. They allow him to tell the tale without any challenge. Second the new business model of ladies using porn to build a name with the ultimate goal of high priced escorting.

'After Porn Ends 2' doesn't have a strong narrative and maybe it's not supposed to. It's a bunch of soundbites, people's up & down struggles thru life and this industry about making a buck. This piece from director Bryce Waggoner is well edited and flows nicely, but I can't see anyone getting multiple views from it.

A positive look on the porn industry

[ersbel · 29 November 2018]

This is not the usual documentary built up to show the moral disaster of the porn industry. But the good ends here. This is not really a documentary. It is just a series of interviews stitched together. There is no story, only a few slides put at the end with a mock follow-up.

Porn is fake

[hillangela-59786 · 13 September 2019]

You think porn is real but it's not the actor and actress having sex and the camera man filming it want you to believe it is but it's not