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8/10
Not even close to the summary of this episode..
nosirromeille19 March 2017
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I just wanted to say, this was a very fun show, but also the fact that the Summary of this episode is NOT what happened. The summary should be more along the lines of: After being presumed dead, billionaire Danny Rand comes home after 15 years after his plane crashed with him and his parents on board near the Himalayan mountains....

Sorry, couldn't exactly find a way to change the summary... but that is more like it. Good episode though!
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6/10
Snow Gives Way
bobcobb30118 March 2017
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Not as bad as some of the early reviews trashing the show would indicate, but far from a good start. The characters are a bit too laid back and they don't have the strongest backstory yet.

The ex-Nazi cop from Banshee, Tom Pelphrey, as a rich arsehole did not seem like good casting. Jessica Stroup's personality on 90210 evaporated here in a role of a typical rich guy's partner.

And the idea of all the Marvel stars being unbeatable in fight scenes is a bit too played out.

It's not that this show is so bad, it's just that we've seen this same thing four times now. Maybe Netflix can only have so many Marvel shows?
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8/10
loved the fast action,
selinashulamit18 March 2017
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Knowing what to wait for I actually loved the action, the twists of the story and I am hoping to watch a second season and the developing of the Ironfist as the keeper of a new gate. I've seen all 13 parts of it and loved the drama developing of family in turmoil, of secrets and the fight between right and wrong. also the the sort of wisdom found in our era. the big corporations power net all over the world and the cost of ruling them. can be seen also as the true war between right and wrong. with the action and kong-fu effects all through the serials.
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9/10
A great start to a even greater show.
stevenknarp18 March 2017
I do not believe the criticism for this show is deserved. The story has layers, it displays betrayal by family friends very truthfully to the real world. The martial arts are realistic and the fight scenes are better for it. Everything that may not make sense in the first episode is a deliberately placed seed for a event in the future. In my opinion this is one of the best shows in a while and the only reason I give this episode 9 stars not 10 is because the other episodes are better.
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10/10
Greatest show known to man
tylergilroy30 July 2018
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I watched this whole show then came back to review the pilot and what can I say except that I have just witnessed greatness. Everything from the dastardly deeds of Harold Meechum to the zany adventures of Danny Rand with his best buds Joy and Ward. This show is a light hearted take on the classic superhero story and is full of positive themes and messages, not to mention the fact that the writing and acting is probably the best of any of the marvel shows. The only word that describes this show is Wow. I'm so pumped for season 2 and I look forward to rewatching this show thousands of times on the clutch with my family after work. Nicely done Finn Jones and company, you bring tears of joy to my eyes.
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7/10
It Is Good
ShatPack9 February 2022
This is my take on Episode 1.1 This isn't a comparison to the other Netflix Marvel offerings which I have thoroughly enjoyed.

I have appreciated most of the IMDB comments regarding these Marvel / Netflix programs with the exceptions being the remarks about 'filler' episodes.

I was reluctant to watch this series based upon comments. But decided to rewatch the Netflix in a proscribed order which included Iron Fist.

I don't know how this first season will play out, perhaps it will suck... but the first episode was intriguing and I have enjoyed it.

I'm glad I watched it.
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10/10
Great start
frey_jonny3 August 2021
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Great start of a new series looking forward to seeing more.
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3/10
A pre-established fanbase manipulates the IMDb score
zack-bananas-fry18 March 2017
It is a well-known fact that critics and audiences often have different responses to film/ television etc. So I wasn't particularly surprised when I saw a very high rating for Iron Fist on IMDb compared to it's 37/100 score on Metacritic. For this reason, I went into this first episode with an open mind.

I have seen maybe half of the first season of DareDevil and all of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, and really enjoyed all three. Something I've noticed is how realistic everything that can be is. What I mean by that is that the dialogue, the human interaction, the plotting etc. feels so natural that the element of superhuman abilities just feels like an extension of the world, rather than anything else. We believe that Luke Cage is a real person working two jobs and still mourning the death of wife, so the fact that he is bulletproof and has super-strength doesn't faze us.

That is where, in my opinion, Iron Fist fails. The dialogue feels so forced and unnatural that every scene just feels a little off. Every scene seems to go on for slightly too long so you're left a little bored. The pacing is so jarring that after every new scene you need time to adjust. It hopped between light-hearted and dramatic so quickly that I had no idea how I was supposed to feel. And I was genuinely shocked at how choreographed the fight scenes seemed to be. Obviously fight scenes in media are choreographed, that's not the problem. The problem is that it's clear that the actors have been told exactly what to do and rehearsed it so it's clockwork, which means it's so unbelievable. I was sure that if there was one thing I could enjoy about this show it would be the action, but clearly I was wrong.

I've seen a lot of IMDb reviews where people complain that the only reason this show has not received critical acclaim is due to political correctness. That is an easy way to trick yourself into enjoying a very mediocre program. Very disappointing from a Marvel/ Netflix collaboration.
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3/10
Uninspired, poor script
scarlettyforest17 March 2017
I've seen a lot of people complaining about Iron Fist for casting a white guy in the lead, so putting ALL THAT ASIDE, here are all the technical reasons why Iron Fist was bad.

At the very best, the script is a 4/10. It's full of bad dialogue, bad exposition, tonal inconsistencies and a tonne of soap opera moments which all fall flat. None of the characters in Iron Fist feel like real people, especially Danny, which is a huge disappointment. But I can almost forgive a lot of that because in the hands of the right director and actors, it can turn out alright. At the very best, it can be pure popcorn entertainment. As is turns out though, the acting was terrible and the direction likewise. I really wanted to be able to defend Finn Jones for all the heat he's copping in the media right now, but I just can't. I don't usually like to single people out because it feels rude to say, but he just doesn't bring any finesse to the role and he's not a very good actor. The supporting actors aren't great either. In fact, they're pretty bad, especially the actor playing Ward. I thought most of the female actors were okay, but then again they didn't have a lot of scenes so who knows.

I've been trying to piece together what was going on in John Dahl's mind because the episode he did for Jessica Jones ,"AKA Sin Bin", was great, but for his pilot episode of Iron Fist he dropped the ball. I have a theory too that maybe John Dahl and the rest of the cast were expecting the show to be edited together with a much faster pace which would account for the unnecessarily drawn out takes and mismatched "comedic" scenes and dialogue, but then again the shot set up is too poor to purely blame the editing department for not being able to efficiently move the story forward.

And now: the action sequences. The reason why the now famed "Netflix-Marvel" fight scenes have worked so well, especially in Daredevil's case, is because they were all used sparingly, with proper motivation to propel the story in a meaningful way and to establish the characters further. The action sequence between Danny and the security guard henchman was cheap, and that's the only way to put it. It was almost as if the person writing the script said to themselves "Oh yeah, gotta throw in the token action sequence".

I was really disappointed in this one. If you're craving a Marvel action show, stick to Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. Or if you're in the mood a billionaire playboy coming back with a vengeance, go watch Batman Begins or Arrow because they did it a lot better.

In summary:

-Bad script (characters, dialogue, exposition, pacing, tone, it was soapy)

-Poor directing that didn't build suspense or establish a world for the characters

-Horrible acting all around

-Token action sequences were meaningless

-Lacks originality, and the concept has been done a lot better by other shows/movies.

3/10
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5/10
bad acting, illogical and poor script, and very deja vu
toddcha18 March 2017
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Literally I held my patience waiting the half of the episode 1, and I almost can guess the pilot.

The way that the director directed the iron fist is almost another version of "Green Arrow": something crash, rich family murdered (possibly plotted by a friend), one kid survived and returned with some sorta narcissistic and vigilante. And the vigilante sometimes fall into the past memory which describes what what has made him nowadays.

What makes me surprised, agitated and unbearable is the iron fist NEVER REALLY TRIED to help himself out, no matter in the mental hospital, in the conversation with ANYONE. In the opposite, the more he does, the worse situation he puts himself into. The script is horribly written, which lacks logic, balance and consequence. By no logic, the iron fist won over Joe's trust just by sending back a pack of M&Ms without the brown ones, which was their games as children. The same things happens to the doctors as well. So is the existence of Harold, which Joe seems have zero acknowledgment.

It seems the writer wants the script to be unfolded in a way where the audience NATURALLY captures the goodness and personality of the iron fist. But such organization only gives audience loath towards both the iron fist and other bad guys. Weakness for the former, and disguise for the latter.

The script really need improving, so does the acting of Ward, especially, which is almost sting to eyes.
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4/10
A very short review of the pilot for "Iron Fist" (2017)
ericrnolan27 August 2017
They said that Netflix' "Iron Fist" (2017) was bad. They were … mostly right, at least as far as I can tell from the pilot. I'd rate the first episode a 4 out of 10.

This episode was a thinly scripted collection of common tropes, cluttered with clunky exposition and weird, improbable plot points. (A friendly homeless man helps the hero by googling key information for him on a stolen iPhone?) The show even managed to be briefly boring in parts.

"Iron Fist" has the depth and hastily concocted story of an 80's primetime action show. But I don't mean in a fun, nostalgic way, I mean in a bizarre, awkward way. I was actually reminded of Mystery Science Theater 3000 lampooning 1984's ninja groaner, "The Master." In fact … don't "Iron Fist" and "The Master" have a similar story setup? There are some weird parallels, if you think about it.

Look … it wasn't all bad. The fight choreography was actually damned good. I don't know if that was actor Finn Jones performing the Kung- Fu, or a stunt double. But it was believable and a lot of fun to watch. It was nicely shot, too — the vibrant visuals had an appropriate comic-book feel, and were better than those that I would expect from this show's companion series, "Daredevil" and "Jessica Jones" (2015).

I also submit that Jones is great in the role of the titular hero. He's a decent actor, he's well cast in the part, and I find Danny Rand to be a surprisingly likable protagonist. I just hope that "The Defenders" new team-up places him in the hands of a better set of writers.
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2/10
Just Plain Dumb
kenhorowitz8 July 2021
I haven't watched many of the movies and so I think I can be objective. In the first episode Danny comes back after 15 years and wants to prove who he his to his two best (at least one of them is) friends. Rather than telling them that he has no tangible proof since there are no close relatives to match with his DNA and that he was never fingerprinted as kid, all he had to do was tell of one thing that happened between them that only they would know. When he doesn't do this and they don't ask for a memory as proof, I was completely turned off. (I am watching the rest of the episodes but even then, I can't rate this too high.
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3/10
Easily one of the worst pilots ever made, and the absolute worse of the Marvel Netflix shows
hitdoctor248 August 2018
The acting is terrible. The writing is terrible. The pacing is terrible. Everything about the Iron Fist pilot (and essentially the whole first season, unfortunately) is just plain bad. I went into this show knowing it got poor reviews and began watching it with the mindset of "maybe I'll enjoy it since I'm going in with zero expectations." But nope. This episode is painful to watch, and sets the stage for all the agony and misery you will most definitely experience if you, for whatever reason, decide to watch beyond the pilot.

Danny Rand is bland. He's foolish. He's naive. He's impressionable. He's soft. He's indecisive. He's rash. He's hotheaded. He's dramatic. He's temperamental. He possesses just about every single trait the protagonist of your show should NOT have. The supporting cast is very weak as well. Only watch this show if you absolutely have to see how it stacks up with Netflix's other Marvel shows. Spoiler alert: it pales in comparison to all of them, even the inconsistent and slow paced Luke Cage. If you do force yourself to sit through all 13 episodes like I did, you will grow to hate yourself and potentially fall into a deep dark pit of despair that can only be escaped with a 62-hour marathon of Breaking Bad.

Save yourself the horrors of this pitiful tv show. If you value your sanity, STAY AWAY. It really is as bad as you've heard.
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3/10
Season one of Iron Fist an enormous disappointment.
jqky11 June 2020
The whole season is a mash-up of different stories that have no clear beginning or end and lead the viewers nowhere. The characters are universally poorly developed and mostly unlikable. The writing is truly cringe worthy. Finn Jones acting sucks all life out of practically every scene in which he appears.

And I really wanted to like this show. I gave it every chance, watching all 13 excruciating episodes.

As the other Netflix Marvel series are all quite good I plan to return and give season two a try. Since Scott Buck was fired from the show after this season I will enter season two with a hopeful attitude.
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5/10
Wait and see
Leofwine_draca8 May 2021
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The next Marvel TV show, after I struggled with the non-starter that was the first season of JESSICA JONES. IRON FIST is even worse rated so I have no idea what to expect. This pilot episode is okay, just okay mind, although they're making a lot of effort here. I don't like Finn Jones at all, didn't like him in GAME OF THRONES even, just finding him really shallow as an actor. Jessica Henwick is a lot better. The plot has some potential and the action's okay. We'll see where this goes.
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5/10
Disappointing Entry in the Marvel Universe
mabbott1024 April 2018
Let me start by saying, I don't hate this series. Obviously, there are serious problems starting with the miscasting of the lead (Lewis Tan would have been a much better choice) & a lack of coherent storyline. Finn Jones is a good actor and might have worked in another role but, doesn't seem to be able to move past the snotty, rich kid aspect of his character. And the scripts don't give him much to work with. Rather than building his character, they focus on twists & shockers designed to make the audience gasp, and that might have been the case if the twists were original. That said, there's a lot to like about the series. Jessica Henwick is very good as Coleen Wing, the supporting cast is quite up to the task, with guest shows from other Marvel supporting players scattered throughout the 13 episodes. David Wenham is particularly good (and should be a front runner for any eventual Donald Trump biopic). Most of the fight scenes are quite good although you don't really get many until a few episodes in. The main problem appears to be with the source material itself. I admit, I never read the original comic book series so, I lack familiarity. However, keeping that in mind, this story should have been engaging and fresh for me. Instead, it was often unfocused and strayed into borrowed tropes far too many times to keep me fully engaged. However, it does add some necessary pieces to the overall Defenders storyline to come and is essential, if not always entertaining viewing in the full series. Again, I'm not saying I hate the show, I just wish I could have really liked it.
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