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7/10
Despite having its release pulled, the movie isn't just. It just, unfortunately, tries to balance out the mother's personal drama with her trans son.
Amari-Sali2 January 2017
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Trigger Warning(s):

Transphobia (One Scene of Bullying but mostly misgendering)

Noted Actor(s)

Ray (Elle Fanning) | Maggie (Naomi Watts) | Dolly (Susan Sarandon)

Characters & Storyline

Ray

Since Ray was 4 he knew he was born in the wrong body. Now 12 years later, after a lot of therapy, and dealing with his feminist grandma trying to convince him perhaps he was just a butch lesbian, it is time. However, in order to transition to becoming a male it requires not just his mom signing off on the various paperwork, which would include getting testosterone, but also the father he hasn't seen in almost a decade.

Maggie

Your daughter is becoming your son, you live with your two moms and the one who is your biological mom seems to make snide comments about your life all the time. It's a bit much to handle and no amount of books can really prep or help. But life happens and despite how uncomfortable things are, you have to learn to adapt right? If you don't it could negatively affect your child and at the end of the day, that's who matters the most right?

Highlights

A Different Perspective

Whether it is I Am Jazz, Redefining Realness, Star, Orange is the New Black, Gun Hill Road, Tangerine, Paris is Burning or countless other media out there, more often than not the focus is masculine assigned persons transitioning to women. Rarely is there anything about someone transitioning the other direction, outside of the various roles Elliot Fletcher (who pretty much corners that market) has played, that character on House of Lies, and Cole on The Fosters. Be it because less of an eye is bat when someone assigned a girl transitions to a boy, or because there isn't the same curiosity and ability to sensationalize. Either way, it was nice to get a taste, just a taste mind you, of the issues FTM trans people go through. Be it boys who misgender you and bully you for it, girls who you have feelings for not seeing you for the man you are, your family adjusting and maybe some of them even feeling betrayed you'd leave the ranks of womanhood to become a man, much less your parents coming to terms with the change.

Susan Sarandon

A part of me wishes that Sarandon's character was raising Ray as opposed to Maggie. If only because, as noted below, Maggie's drama almost seems like it wants to compete for attention and eclipse the movie's central topic. But it isn't just because of Maggie's drama I'd prefer Sarandon playing the parental role but also because Dolly, her character, brings something different to the complicated matter of a family member transitioning. She is the one which helps push the difference which comes from dealing with an MTF transitioning person vs. an FTM. Also, she is basically the comic relief but without making herself, or rather the character, a joke in the process.

Criticism

Maggie

Parents play a major role when it comes to the lives of trans people. They are perhaps one of the most important figures in finding acceptance and of course learning what it means to be a man or women. But the problem here with Maggie is as the movie tries to craft a life for Maggie it adds all this eye-roll inducing drama in terms of Ray's father and her relationship with him. Which, at first, you're OK with since we are invited into these characters' lives while they are in their late teens, in Ray's case, and likely the 40s of Maggie. However, slowly but surely, it seems like Maggie wasn't there to share focus with Ray's or even have her story-line support Ray's. At a certain point, it seemed like Maggie's story-line was competing with Ray's for prominence and it was more about Maggie's troubled relationship than her son trying to complete their transition and start a new life.

Overall: Mixed (Home Viewing)

You know how most MTF movies solely feature that character, their relationships with people, and tries to disillusion the viewer on their experience. Yeah, this movie kind of does that but then focuses too much on the mom and her drama, her relationships, to the point it makes it so while you may have watched this movie to learn about Ray, you end up learning a hell of a lot more about Maggie. Which would have been fine if that was how this was marketed, and maybe why the title was changed to Three Generations, but no one cares about Maggie. Maggie's story is tired and old. Which is why this is being labeled Mixed (Home Viewing) because you come for Ray, to learn about his life and what it is like to be a young man transitioning, which we don't really see except in supporting characters. Yet, instead, get another story about a privileged white woman trying to avoid responsibility and making things about her.
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5/10
Misses the Mark
larrys314 June 2017
Ray (Elle Fanning) is a 16-year-old who was born as Ramona but has felt for years that he's a male inside a female body. As he tries to begin the medical transgender process, it will open up much family angst and discord. Additionally, because of his age, Ray will require the parental consent of his absentee father which will lead to more emotional upheaval and the uncovering of some hidden family secrets.

Although the film's heart may be in the right place, I thought the dialogue often came across as contrived, strident, and melodramatic, which made it a difficult watch for me. The movie does have a poignant and uplifting ending though.

All in all, although I felt for Ray, who seemed the only one who was not conflicted about what he wanted to do, the movie itself did not seem like the best of vehicles to bring transgender issues to the forefront.
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6/10
some weakness in writing
SnoopyStyle6 January 2018
Ray (Elle Fanning) wants to transition to being a boy. He's 16 and needs parental consent. His mother Maggie (Naomi Watts) has to track down his biological father. They live in NYC with Maggie's gay mother Dolly (Susan Sarandon) and her girlfriend Frances. Dolly would rather Ray be a lesbian.

This is tackling an advanced edgy issue. It needs some better writing. The actors are top notch. The story needs to move but it's stuck in molasses. The dream girl probably needs more screen time and played by someone more charismatic. Quite frankly, she needs to be played by somebody like Elle. Ray's flailing attempts at romance is the most compelling story opportunity. There could be love triangles and unrequited love. The bio dad is not that compelling. Despite any weakness in writing, the actors carry the heavy load well especially Elle.
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6/10
Complicated
fmwongmd27 June 2020
A twisted complicated situation with moments of pure comedy. Elle Fanning is good!
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6/10
Teenagers
Nina6616 August 2020
It's a fascinating story about a fragile girl whose only desire is to be a boy and the ramifications this decision has on her family. Ella Fanning displays great teenage angst - throwing tantrums, manipulation, sarcasm, selfishness, it's all there.

Naomi Watts is the stand out, struggling to support her daughter's situation while juggling her own interesting relationships with her ex partners and mothers. Everyone performed their parts well, Susan Sarandon has a minimal presence throughout the film yet is memorable.

I'd have liked to have seen Ray/Ramona's mental instability addressed in the film as you never really understand why she wants to be a boy other than she's merely wanted it so since she was a little girl. Maybe that's all there is to it?
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7/10
Don't blame the movie for not being what you expected
PaxtonMalloy31 December 2020
I was baffled that neither the metascore nor the user rating was very high. So I read the reviews from both critics and users. And basically the criticism is that it doesn't focus more on Ray showing more of her struggle or her transformation even saying it lacks the focus on that.

So basically the movie get's blamed for not being what was expected. Well even if it isn't the first time this happened you can't do that. The movie is called "3 Generations" even showing the the three main characters not just one. A filmmaker can choose whatever he wants the focus to be and so she decided to show rays pain but also how the decision affects her mother her father and her grandmother as well.

So here are the facts. This is real good story with Sarandon, Watts and Fanning being at their best. How Fanning doesn't get awards nominations for this is beyond me. Since this already is a heavy emotionally loaded topping with a lot of pain, sorrow director Gaby Dellal as well as writer Nikole Beckwith wrote this very good and funny dialog. A banter between the three main characters that will put a smile on your face on many occasions. Great script, great actors and well directed make this a very touching and moving film.
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Well-told dramatic story of a girl who intends to transition to be a boy.
TxMike24 September 2017
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I watched this at home as a Netflix streaming movie.

The story here involves a heated topic in many circles, the idea that a person may be born into a gender that is not appropriate for who they really are. Many on the "conservative" side, especially of they are also fundamental religious, firmly believe that if you are born a girl that is what you are supposed to be, learn to live with it, wanting to transition to a boy should never be an option.

Many on the "liberal" side firmly believe that a person needs to be true to themselves and if that means switching genders then they are supportive. In addition there are whole bunches of people who don't care either way.

This movie was written and directed by women, one of them is a formerly married mother of three. The core story involves a 16-yr-old girl who has felt for most of her life that she was really a boy born with female parts. She pilots her skateboard, she dresses like a boy, she cuts her hair short. And now as the story confronts us she is requesting her mom's permission to enter a program to "transition" to a boy. She wants to get a fresh start at a new school and as a boy.

A wrinkle is that her dad, whom she has no contact for the last 10 years or so, has to sign the form also.

Elle Fanning who otherwise is good at glamour type female roles is really good here as Ray, I found myself really believing this girl could want to be a boy. Her grandmom is played well by Susan Sarandon as Dolly, who supports her daughter, loves her and wants her to be happy, but just doesn't know how to react to her daughter's request. And there is Naomi Watts, good as the mom, Maggie, also mostly puzzled about how to react. In an interesting additional role Linda Emond is Frances, the lesbian partner of Dolly.

I think there is no doubt about the leanings of those who made this movie, but regardless of a particular viewer's own leanings the movie can be appreciated for the story it tells, there is no running away and sticking heads in the sand, the transgender issue is here and it will stay and this movie gives an excellent view of the landscape.

I enjoyed watching it, good movie.
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6/10
Performances stand out in earnest drama about trans teen.
punch8710 September 2019
This film's generational awareness is a welcome change from the mainstream media's usual treatment of LGBTQ issues as different than other, traditional sexual concerns.
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4/10
Meh
JamieTheRelentless24 October 2021
As a trans guy, I was trying really hard to relate to this character. Like really really hard since there are hardly any movies about the ftm experience. The actress really tried, but they just didn't seem to get it a lot of the time. Like when he said he wanted to be an astronaut instead of a princess or something. Those are gender roles, just because your child doesn't want to wear a dress doesn't mean they're trans. I also felt we didn't get to know much about Ray as a person. In the first part of the movie there were scenes at school and of him hanging out with friends, but it wasn't much. I wish we could have seen more of what his life was actually like instead of all the dad drama.

At least they fixed the ace bandages thing, thank god. I was already yelling at the screen but he got an actual binder. How he only just got that after having been out for years and how none of the therapists they talked to ever asked about it is another question.

Like everyone has already pointed out there was too much focus on the mom. I really liked her at first, but then she kept being so selfish and honestly immature at times.

I really wish they would have tried harder. I'm sure there are trans actors who would love to have played this role, who actually know what it's like.

This movie is not terrible. It's not unwatchable. But it's also not the amazing trans movie I've been looking for.
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7/10
Memorable or not
elosomagenta27 May 2018
A memorable script, three unmemorable main performances. Without a doubt it is a fantastic story rich in power and encouragement to the transgender kids.
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5/10
Could have been a lot better
alejaduque12318 December 2017
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Even though the main point of the entire movie was focused on Ray's mother, who was struggling with getting Ray's dad consent for Ray to finally start his transition into a boy, i think the movie could have been a lot better if we actually had the chance to see the actual transition, or at least part of it. Was I the only one waiting to see her starting on T and completely changing her life??.

The acting and production of the movie wasn't actually bad, I just think there could have been a lot more story than a mother who wants to get some papers singed for a transformation that we never actually get to see. Excuse me if I am missing the whole point of the movie, I KNOW, there's a lot of things behind whole story line, for example, acceptance, family issues, secrets from the past, personal struggles in the characters, I GET IT. But how exciting would it be to actually get to witness Ray's transformation?.

This movie just left me with a lot of question. How will testosterone going to change him? Did he gets the girl at the end? Will he be happy after his transition? Will Ray's mother end up with her former lover? I guess we will never know, because the movie actually ends up when Ray gets the green light to start the treatment. Which is such a cliffhanger, not fair.

Don't judge me, but i actually think this could have carried a lot more history that it had already, and it could have been a lot more exciting in my opinion. I wish i would have liked this book better.
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10/10
This is an incredible film and is what true story telling is all about.
Boristhemoggy18 January 2017
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The story is complex: Ray is a boy who was born into a girl's body. Craig and Matthew are his biological and emotional fathers, Frances and Dolly are his grandmother and lesbian lover, and Maggie, his long suffering Mum who tries to manage the whole family. Ray is going through the process of becoming a boy and the film follows him through part of the journey with all the pitfalls and emotions there is. The dialogue is genuine, the direction is superb, the acting is first class, even from Naomi Watts who plays Maggie, an actor I don't really like but she takes on this role competently. Elle Fanning shines out like an acting sun, eclipsing everyone around her and becoming the hinge pin that the entire story revolves around. She displays almost every single emotion a human is capable of and acts far, far beyond her 17 years. She earned £65,000 from this movie, that's a pittance for her performance, it's probably one of the 10 best I've ever seen. Don't miss this, it will stay in your memory for a long time.
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1/10
Don't watch this if you're actually trans/queer
AlexErzen22 January 2017
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I was over the moon about this movie, since it's not often Hollywood produces something like this. We don't have many LGBTQ+ movies, and we sorely lack representation.

But I was severely disappointed. Firstly, the movie isn't actually about Ray. The protagonist is Ray's mom, an 18-year-old in the body of a grown up (at some point she complains her lesbian mothers are breaking up with her, because they suggest she might move out of their house). She is trying and mostly fails to support Ray in transition (which is odd, since she mentions years of therapy with him), misgendering him several times throughout the movie and expressing doubts about the authenticity of his experience. She acts completely immaturely where Ray's father(s?) are involved, which is a major subplot for some reason. The biological father and one of the grandmothers often misgender him and direct transphobia at him. In addition, a lot of Ray's own experience of gender, conveyed through his videos, seems to be based off gender roles (him saying he'd rather be a race-car driver or a cowboy than a princess) and that made me doubt the writers actually did any research on trans individuals and gender identity.

The fact is that the creators of the movie had an amazing opportunity to bring out an interesting story of someone that is often overlooked in film and thus can offer a new perspective to the viewer. Instead, they chose to push Ray into the background and focus on the emotionally immature mother and her weird love triangle. A FILM THAT WAS MADE TO HIGHLIGHT THE EXPERIENCE OF A STIGMATIZED AND UNDER-REPRESENTED MINORITY DEVOLVED TO THE POINT WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE Plot line IS WHITE/RICH/STRAIGHT/CISGENDER CHARACTERS' DRAMA THAT CENTERS AROUND FURTHER STIGMATIZING/DISENFRANCHISING THAT SAME MINORITY. To me, the movie felt plastic. I don't know what it was trying to do, but it felt like the story was just an afterthought. If it ends up raising awareness somehow, great. But in the end, it's just a bad movie.
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5/10
Not the trans movie they've been waiting for
kinseydude15 February 2020
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So, as a forysomething cis gay prof who sometimes teaches gender studies to college students, I'm watching movie portrayals of trans family experiences, and searching for a trans protagonist whom a majority of those communities could find honestly, acceptably portrayed. If such a character even exists in film, at least when played by a cis person, this film's central figure, Ray, just isn't him.

3 Generations disseminates the melodrama unevenly among grandma Susan Sarandon and partner, mother Naomi Watts and the two brothers she vaguely dated 16 years earlier, and son Ray, who transitions but needs both rents' signatures on a form for gender dysphoria treatment. We spend most of the film waiting for the form to be signed, and the melodrama derives from a grandmother who doesn't understand why Ray can't be cis lesbian instead, a mother who has to go find the paramour whom we're led to believe abandoned girlfriend and child years before, and the long lost father, who's gone on to form a second, more perfect family in the meantime. If you've got all that, you're only beginning to follow this movie's overdetermined, forced, and unfelt twists and turns. Without a real emotional center for all viewers to relate to, we were intended, one supposes, to follow whatever avatar fits with your generation as a viewer. What results is a lot of trans and old-school lgbt sturm and drang, but not a movie that will change many minds, offer any new angles on a struggling middle-age and single mom at the center of what could be a rom-com, or come close to pleasing many in trans communities (as referenced in other reviews). Even the last dinner in the film's final scene feels forced and Hollywood, as none of these characters has viewers anticipating good cheer and camaraderie at this point, especially with this knot of twisted family relationships. 3 Generations was going for something significent, but in my search for transcending trans protagonists, I'll just have to go on looking.
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5/10
not deep or moving not really about transition
jamiegarcia-5603917 April 2017
About Ray (3 Generations) had the potential to be something great. Im a trans teen myself and I have been waiting for this movie for a long time. unfortunately it missed the opportunity to address the struggles trans teens face. instead focusing on more traditional family drama and ray happened to be trans.... the writers missed a huge opportunity
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8/10
It is a feel good movie that shows that family can overcome anything together, no matter how dysfunctional.
alyssahurst21 September 2015
About Ray is a fresh take on a family drama that most people can relate to in some way.

All families have their problems, and this family is no exception. They show a glimpse of what it is like to have to live in a body that you don't identify with and the complications that go with it.

It is a feel good movie that shows that family can overcome anything together, no matter how dysfunctional.

All of the lead actresses are amazing, and the set is really one of a kind.

Check it out.
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2/10
Not a good representation of trans people
grahamsmellslikebeans14 April 2020
Very clearly a cis person who doesn't know much about trans people who thinks they know a lot about trans people's interpretation of what being trans is like. They never talked to a single actual trans person to create this film. It had potential but they ended up doing almost everything wrong and low key transphobic. If it was a play there is a 40% chance I would boo. Boo!
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3/10
Binary
zicteban30 March 2017
Very disappointing despite very good acting performance from Fanning. Indeed, bunch of clichés, clumsy storyline, very week script make it hard to watch till the end. Furthermore, far from being and open-minded thoughtful movie about a very complex and sensitive issue, it turns out to be much to much right-minded in a very dull, binary way.
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1/10
What a waste
wdmgq11 November 2019
A great example of Hollywood letting kids be kids... Some of the actors were okay, but the director of this film must be giving his unbridled thoughts of young teenagers and the way they act...

Sat all the way through this, and was thoroughly disappointed...
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10/10
the new family
lee_eisenberg21 October 2017
Gaby Dallel's "3 Generations" drew criticism for the casting of a cisgender person in the role of a transgender character. While that is an issue, the movie itself is worth seeing. It shows how the different family members deal with the news that the daughter is transitioning to male. In fact, the lesbian grandmother has the hardest time dealing with it (I've noticed that a number of gays and lesbians, while fighting for their own rights, have ignored transgender rights).

I wouldn't call the movie a masterpiece, but I think that it addresses some good issues. It's the sort of movie that could only get released in the 2010s, when understanding of gender-nonconforming people became widespread. I recommend it. I guess that the distribution by The Weinstein Company now looks unpleasant due to the ugly revelations about Harvey Weinstein, but that doesn't change the movie itself. Really good one. As expected, Elle Fanning, Naomi Watts and Susan Sarandon all turn in fine performances.
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4/10
Had Potential
westsideschl10 July 2017
Had potential to address the subject of gender identification and its challenges, but just turned out to drag on about dysfunctional family life. Usual matriarchal extended family substituting for divorced mom with a challenging daughter/son. Just droned on (and overacted), in that typical NY writing style, about unhappy households with their endless arguing. That region of the country has an unhealthy fixation with stereotypical rom/coms; drinking parties for singles or wannabe singles; dysfunctional families; hooking up with the emotional attachment of rabbits. Ending was rather hokey, everyone is at peace with each other. How nice! Kudos to Elle Fanning for how she presented her character.
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1/10
What a lame character development
mfaitels17 April 2021
The whole film is about a child who is privileged to have a home and food and clothes to wear. Personally I believe the "Ramona" character, she overdramatized the role. It seems like she's just immature and selfish. I haven't heard someone say "I" so much. I just hated her character. In any other country in the world she would be lucky to have this problems of I don't want to wear a dress. There's people who don't even have anything to wear at all. Rude story and rude characters.
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3/10
too modern a family
phd_travel28 June 2017
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The fine actresses drew me to see this movie. And they do act well. As for the story - that's another thing. It seems like some indie films are trying to outdo each other in finding the most bizarre and novel family combination possible. This one has lesbian grandmothers, unwed mother who slept with 2 brothers, and the central focus a girl wanting to transition to a boy. Didn't really get much insight into the mind of a transgender. The little melodrama is more on the contrived side.

Elle Fanning is a strange choice to play the central character. She still acts and looks very feminine with her sweet smile and delicate features. K Stew would have been better in this role. Naomi Watts can act anything well and she kept me watching a rather tiresome and unsympathetic character. Susan Sarandon is fun to watch.

Not really worth watching.
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9/10
Very well done- an emotional topic
vintagebydesign29 August 2017
This movie tackles a difficult subject very appropriate for today, with drama but also mild humor. The network of family this teen is growing in, is a diverse cross section of modern families. And though they are living a more progressive lifestyle, this goes to show how difficult this transition period can be for any family. With ties to a child's birth gender and realizing the changes that come with a decision to honor one's own feelings of who they are, families struggle no matter how open minded they may think they are. Or how imperfect they see themselves. This was done with amazing sensitivity to the fact that families are comprised in many different ways, showing the emotions that come when people choose to love, take risks and work towards supporting one another. This may become a cult film as the world catches up with this very real struggle, and the love that overcomes the fear.
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3 Generations
Maryjnberry11 January 2018
While the review that is on the IMDb movie page about this movie is rather a persons feeing about the ending of a generation, of this family, that this movie should have explained that, I don't agree. This movie is about change, but also about love....the love you feel for your child, worry about their future, and how your (transgender) child will be accepted and able to cope in a world that is identity centric, and often negative toward LGBTQ? persons. The actors treated this difficult, controversial subject with love toward their now grandson-realistic feelings of confusion, worry, about their own acceptance of Ray, everyone's thoughts about Ray's identity crisis, his worry about acceptance, being able to start his life in a new situation as himself, rather than being known formerly as Ramona, then his change made his life difficult with the others at school, in his neighborhood. This subject was dealt with in a very realistic and loving way.
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