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10/10
Terrific in so many ways...
fernando-scafura7 June 2014
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I have never written a review so far but now I felt an urge to do so. "The Grove" is simply the best episode of The Walking Dead by far. It caught me and left me thinking about it for days. It is extremely dense, dark and it contains important moral and ethical questionings.

I've been a TWD fan all along but sometimes the series doesn't fulfill my expectations and deviates from the right path. This episode summarizes TWD at its best: great directing, great acting and character development and a great script that focus on moral dilemmas on a post- apocalyptic world. "The Grove" shows how different people react to extreme situations and how a certain code is formed when there are no longer rules to support human relations.

Lizzie represents those people who would escape from reality rather than accepting it. She truly believes walkers are no danger at all (they are just different) and tries to make a point by killing her sister at the most disturbing moment of TWD (in my opinion). She completely lost contact with reality and had no moral boundaries since she grew up in this world.

Her sister Mika, on the other hand, refuses to give up her humankind and adapt to the new rules. She has a strong sense of right and wrong (unlike her sister) and doesn't change even though circumstances have changed. She represents those who believe there is a right and wrong (no matter the environment) and that this should be carried out to the end. Perhaps this is a kind of ingenuity and the reason for her death.

Carol is a very strong character and shows the mutation of a person in a world such as depicted in TWD. Once a weak woman submitted to her husband and haunted by the death of her daughter, she now has full control of her actions and believes she must take action and enforce the rules (in her view) in order to survive. It is interesting to see how her values change over the course of the series and how this was influenced by her experiences. Lizzie's "judgement" is illustrative: she was a loving mother once but now she has to do dark things (such as killing a child, Lizzie) because she believes it with cause and thinks it is for the best of all. She takes justice on her own hands since there is no one else to do it and therefore she must be the one to act (she's lost all sense of moral and has no restrictions at this point). She has adapted in order to survive.

The final scene, when Carol finally reveals to Tyreese that she was the one who killed Karen and David, was perfect. She is willing to be punished and die at that moment, since there has been much suffer and she believes her guilty somehow. Tyreese then shows the most sublime of human's qualities: the power of forgiveness (that he has not lost in the way).

There is no way this isn't a 10/10.
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10/10
I Am Speechless!
g-bodyl3 February 2015
This is the fourteenth episode of the fourth season of the Walking Dead. The episode starts off slow, but boy does it ever finish off with a bang. The ending, controversial in some eyes, was almost too much for me to grasp. This is one of the most dramatic episodes of the series and a turning point for Carol, who had to make some moral decisions in this episode.

In this episode, "The Grove," Carol, Tyreese, Lizzy, and her sister stop at a house along the railroad towards Terminus. There the sanity of Lizzy is questioned as she believes the walkers are her friends. But after a walker attack on the house, some drastic events are now about to unfold.

Overall, this is an excellent episode, even if some people view the ending as uncomfortable. Nonetheless, it is a very grim episode touching upon themes of doing the right thing. This is Carol's episode and I wonder how her character is going to change from here on out. I rate this episode 10/10.
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9/10
Brutal.
joseph_smyth25 March 2014
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Well. That was brutal. Truly. I mean for anyone watching that and not feeling incredibly uncomfortable and a gut wrenching distress at seeing Carol kill Lizzie or Lizzie stabbing her little sister. Seriously heavy stuff. Just when you think you have a handle on this show it sucker punches you. Not sure if I liked it but I guess its trying to illustrate that this is not all zombie killing and food hunts. Its a really brutal existence where inconceivable decisions have to be made. From an episode that started slowly you get pulled right in.

I remain a little unconvinced on the structure of the 2nd half of this season with the group scattered but there are certainly more human questions being asked.
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10/10
Speechless.....
slightlymad221 April 2015
OH MY GOD!! WHAT A HEART BREAKING EPISODE!!

Plot In A Paragraph: We catch back up with Carol, Tyreese and the girls en route to Terminus and they think they may have found sanctuary in an old abandoned house.

This reviewer is not ashamed to admit that I was crying at the end of this episode!!

Tip of the cap to both young Brighton Sharbino (Lizzie) and Kyla Kennedy (Mike) who are both superb. Especially Sharbino as the confused yet determined Lizzie. Melissa McBride and Chad L Coleman are both brilliant too!! This episode stayed with me long after the end credits!!
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10/10
Messed me up
timnovak-282407 February 2020
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I had to take a breather for longer than just a moment after Lizzie's best performance followed up with ,"Don't worry. She will come back". And then after Carol instructing Lizzie to "just keep looking at the flowers, Lizzie. Just keep looking at the flowers" I had a few tears and I'm 45yrs. I hadn't cried since my mother died 20 yrs ago. Thanks a lot, writers of The Walking Dead. You know how to really mess up a guy.
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10/10
Could someone give an Emmy to Melissa McBride?
grondonamanu30 November 2020
Amazing episode. Top 5 of the entire series. Her, Tyresse's and the girls' interpretations are superb. Speachless. TWD was robbed by the Academy here.
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10/10
WOW........Look at the flowers
CM-Drunk1 April 2014
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Look at the flowers

Just look at the flowers

Look at the flowers

Wow what a dark shocking and sad episode! Brilliant writing and acting from all of them! This just shows that season 4 is truly the best season yet! The walking dead shows that bad things can happen and that it can really emotionally shock people! More dark but good things to come definitely!

Not been disappointed with any episode at all. Cannot wait for season 5!
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10/10
Speechless....
oliverbjerregaard17 March 2014
This episode was so dark, intense and extremely well written. I'm just sitting here, and i am speechless! This was not the most action packed episode of the walking dead, but yet you sit with the most hollow and empty feeling. At this moment, i feel shaken all the way into my core.......

I cannot speak for the majority of the viewers, but i think this is one of the best episodes in the Walking Dead so far. The acting was executed VERY well, and so was the systematic build-up for "the big moment". Earlier this year Andrew Lincoln was interviewed by Yahoo TV and said: "The Most Controversial Episode We've Ever Done Is Still to Come". He might referred to the Grove...........

Finally, it opens so many ethical aspects and questions, and i think it's an episode everyone - in one way or another - can relate to. Especially if you have children, a sibling, etc.

I hope the last two episodes share the same quality as this episode. This is a solid 10/10 for me. Gut wrenching, touching and very intense! Loved it.
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9/10
Best episode since "Too Far Gone"
mat-gauvin16 March 2014
From the opening credits I knew this episode was going to be different than any other one so far this season. And boy, was I ever right. It's writing was straightforward, without any cheesy side-stories to fill time, and it's cinematography was a lot better than what we have seen these past few weeks.

I'm a much bigger fan of this kind of horror. I like the fact that, even though there are flesh-eating zombies outside your house, maybe the biggest threat will come from where you'll least expect it; inside your house, hidden deep inside the people that you love. It was scary, in a different kind of way, there was no meaningless gore, just slow building tension, surprising twists, moral dilemmas and an eerie soundtrack that would make James Wan proud...

If you were uncertain if you should continue watching this series after the disappointing "Still", it's with a happy heart that I confirm you there is still hope with this show.
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10/10
Most powerful episode of the walking dead yet!!
alexiserey-711-9225401 April 2014
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The amount of emotion displayed in the episode THE GROVE and the way it is shown through the actors is some of the best that I have scene on the walking dead so far.

SPOILERS The choice carol had to make on how to deal with the whole situation with Lizzy in this episode was one that really makes you think on what you would do in that type of situation. The fact that they also wrote Mika off in this episode was a tragedy but since I read the comics, I knew it was going to happen. What I believe this show is known for is character development and mainly with each characters turning point. Carol goes through one of the biggest turning point of the show. It really makes you want to know how this will change her but the episode shortly ended after the death of Lizzy.
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10/10
The Best Episode of The Walking Dead
kingstoken14 November 2019
Arguably the best episode of The Walking Dead ever, most definitely the best episode not to feature Rick or Daryl. The story is contained to just one small group, Carol, Tyreese, Lizzie and Mika, and I think could be absolutely be watched alone, independently from the rest of the show, most of it has the feeling of a separate film. Using children in horror is hardly a new trope, but the way this episode does it is scary, but ultimately sad, focusing on a child that under ideal modern circumstances would have had a chance to get the help she desperately needed, but in the zombie apocalypse there are no good options. Melissa McBride gives the performance of her career, as Carol having to make some heartbreaking choices. Chad L. Coleman also gives an underrated, but brilliant performance, as a man with a heart who is unsure and conflicted.
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5/10
Still suffers from the same issues TWD always has
Day_ImFivebyFive17 March 2014
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*** FULL SPOILERS ***

Yay, two throwaway characters dead just like that. And this episode had some good unintentional comedy.

"They just want me to change! ...maybe I should make a change." Terrible child acting as always and some of the same mediocre dialogue/behavior the writers/directors want you to believe. Case in point: the scene where Mika and Lizzie are sitting on a bench after Carol and Tyreese tell em to stay put. Mika's like "they'll be OK". Uhhh, what??? Lizzie didn't appear distressed or anything.

As a whole it was a decent episode if you can overlook the dialogue and human behavior. The plotting, atmosphere, and cinematography were well done, so that's why I'm giving it a 5/10. But, as I said, the dialogue and human behavior still leave much to be desired. This series has been extremely contrived, forcing bizarre shifts in character when they want a character to die or relocate. I get that they were trying to say Lizzie is a psychopath, but the acting just didn't convey that. All this time, it felt more like she was being stubborn or for some odd reason just believed zombies were 'ok'. At one point, I felt like the writers would reveal some past trauma that caused her to believe this, but it never came, and so the huge twist that she's a psychopath killer came kind of out of nowhere for me, and it was really only slightly alluded to when, she provided some unintentional comedy as I called it, just a few scant moments before she murders Mika.
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9/10
TWD continues to shine 👌👏
keraghel_mehdi12 July 2021
-Wow , What a bold , controversial episode -That was a hell of an emotional rollercoaster -This episode came with a very bold subject and the writer wanted us to experience a very complicated , shocking situation that left a huge impact on The viewers and it wasn't easy to go through this Episode 💔 , which made this Episode very unique and unlike anything we've seen before -And everything eventually went perfectly to a massive overwhelming conclusion 📈 -Perfect writing , Directing 👏 -What an Outstanding Acting ! 👏
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9/10
Look at the Flowers if you hate this episode, because The Grove will end with a big bang. The Grove is one of the best Walking Dead episodes ever!
ivyleague92912 September 2014
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This episode was intense. Directed by Michael E. Satrazemis and written by Scott M. Gimple. "The Grove" is the 14th episode of the fourth season of the post-apocalyptic horror television series The Walking Dead; airing on AMC on March 16, 2014. Coming off, the events of "Too Far Gone" season 4, episode 8, Tyreese (Chad L. Coleman) & Lizzie Samuels (Brighton Sharbino), Mika Samuels (Kyla Kenedy), and baby Judith (Played by both Adelaide and Eliza Cornwell) find themselves on the road following the attack on the prison. They found themselves reunited with another banished member, Carol Peletier (Melissa McBride) whom been on her own, since the events of Season 3, Episode 4 'Indifference'. All of them, come across a peaceful house in a pecan grove on their trek to Terminus. Life looks good for all of them, until the past come crawling in it, as the group must learn what to do with the unstably of Lizzie, and how to address the secret that Carol is holding away from Tyreese. Without spoiling too much, this episode is one of the most talk episode of the Walking Dead ever; as people found it very controversy. I don't know why, because it's not the first episode of Walking Dead that had children dying or even children killing other children. Did people forget that Season 3, episode 16, 'Welcome to the Tombs' had kids dying too? Some people think this episode went too far, but in my opinion, it wasn't as brutal as the comic book. Anybody whom has readt the comic book, Walking Dead knew how similar the characters of Lizzie and Mika were to Billy to Ben of Issue 61. The show just took bits of that storyline and use it on 'Welcome to the Tombs' and this episode. I think the show dealt with the taboo issue of children killing children in a tasteful and smart way. The episode remind me of John Steinbeck's novel 'Of Mice & Men', so much with its themes. The acting was amazing from all of the character actors here. Both of the children actresses were chilling in their performance. You'll knew that something was going to happen. There were no limitations to these young actresses. In my opinion, the best acting of the episode came from Melissa McBride. You can't help feeling for Carol, not only having to deal with the problem with the children, but also spilling the beans to Tyreese, toward the end. In my opinion, she deserve the Saturn Award, she got for this episode. The opening to this episode is one of the memorable opening of the series. You really see the disturbing childhood innocent that cannot be warden in a world like the Walking Dead. The only thing, I can do without in the episode is having Tyreese as he mumbles in his sleep due to a nightmare. It's an overused clichés that really got tiresome. We get it, Tyreese cannot get over the death of Karen (Melissa Ponzio). It's too bad that I don't care too much, because the show never explore much of their relationship on camera, before killing her off. Much like the last several episodes, the majority of the characters are absent, but it didn't hurt the episode due to the good writing. Lots of character development and sub-plot closures in this episode. There are lot of symbolism throughout the episode, from Carol's voice-over at the end of the episode is of her lesson about why Walkers are dangerous. The column of smoke that the group sees represent the different in the children attitude between them, toward how they should act in the harsh world that they live in. It can also be an inside joke or hint of the events of Season 4, Episode 12 'Still', where Daryl (Norman Reedus) & Beth (Emily Keeney) burn the moonshine shack. Even the look at the flowers quote, was a call back to Season 4, episode 2 'Infected'. Then there is the deer, that Carol sees that Mika failed to kill that makes you think, why Mika couldn't hack it in this world. Another Easter egg, is the incomplete puzzle seen on the dining room table during Carol's confession to Tyrese toward the end of the program. According to the director, Michael Edison Satrazemis, when completed the puzzle displays a photograph of Carol's long dead daughter who died years. Lot of nature versus nurture themes. It's not all gloom. During The Teaser, the Ink Blots' sentimental 1940 hit "Maybe" is heard as the view from the kitchen window shows Lizzie "playing" with a walker. It's might be a possible Shout-Out to the video game, Fallout, as the same tune is heard during the intro for the first game. After this episode aired, Brighton Sharbino (Lizzie) and Kyla Kenedy (Mika) wrote and recorded a song called "Begin Again," which is based on the events of the episode. So that's worth checking out. Overall: A great morality play. This is The Walking Dead at its finest, when it's prompting its audience to ask difficult questions and providing even more difficult answers that viewers might not want to hear. A must watch episode, indeed.
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10/10
The best bottle episodes in the series and one of the most darkest
MomentIMDB18 September 2019
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The episodes bottles are the least loved episodes, since only focus the plot on three four characters and the plot moves little. but this chapter and some others are the exception. They intelligently used the bottle episode, developing all the characters and creating very impressive moments. Melisa Mcbride is a great actress and her interpretation is impeccable and the other actors also achieved a great performance. As the general plot is very interesting, focusing on what Carol and others will do and the psychology of Lizzie. the best things are lizzie playing with a zombie, lizzie kills mika, carol kills lizzie and tyresse forgives carol for killing karen.
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10/10
A Cetinich Review (#5 - The Walking Dead S04E14 - The Grove) - Best Walking Dead Episode To Date
keelan_ruls17 March 2014
I just finished watching this episode, and I haven't cried like this since the Ozymandias episode of Breaking Bad. I guess you could say I can be sensitive for a guy.

Regardless...

This episode of The Walking Dead entitled, "The Grove," was the best Walking Dead episode to DATE! That's not an exaggeration, folks. If you thought, "Too Far Gone," was good you haven't seen nothing yet.

Brilliantly written and the acting was damn well executed. I was worried going into the episode that with only four actors for the whole thing it was going to be another character development episode. It's far, far from that. At the end of this episode you will find so much out, and learn a lot from the season that left you questioning for a while.

This episode will leave you speechless, and I am looking forward to the season finale in a couple of weeks time.

10/10.
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10/10
Extremely disturbing
kevinpaul199917 March 2014
Just a quick look through, A deeply disturbing episode that can stand out of all episodes after the mid season finale. It has to be like everyone is saying one of the darkest episodes of the walking dead. Throughout the episode Lizzy is an unbearable character , you'd probably be yelling at your TV actually saying "shut up already" . After the mid season finale episodes were mainly focused on character development . With the previous episode 'Alone' it seems to be the last this season which continues character development . I'm guessing the show is gonna take a quick change of pace for the final three starting with this one . I'd say this was a really good episode dark and disturbing . A few people were disappointed with the episode 'still' which was pure character development . This episode and 'alone' have made up for it . All I can say is , be prepared for a thrilling finale at the least which will build anticipation for season 5.
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9/10
Insanity, Decision, Revelation and Forgiveness
claudio_carvalho18 March 2014
Carol and Mika find a house in the woods with water and deer around for hunting and Tyresse believes that it might be a good place to stay with Lizzie, Mika and Judith, instead of going to Terminus. Mika shows that is mature for a girl, but not tough while Lizzie seems to be confused playing with walkers like they were different human beings. Carol and Tyresse go hunting in the woods and when they return, they find a tragedy and Carol is forced to take tough decisions.

"The Grove" is one of the most dramatic episodes of this series. The insanity of Lizzie is not well explained despite she is the one that fed the walkers with rats in the prison. She is annoying and hysteric in this show and there is no explanation why she starts to consider walkers as her friends. I feel sorry for Mika, a promising character. It was important the revelation of Carol to Tyresse and his forgiveness to make forget the fate of Karen. My vote is nine.

Title (Brazil): "The Grove"

Note: On 16 April 2016, I saw this show again.
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10/10
yeah, i cried
citadelens18 February 2020
Brilliantly dark, looks at how the horrors of growing up at the end of the world can place strain upon and sometimes break the fragile minds of children. this is probably my favourite episode of the entire show so far.
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10/10
An amazing episode of television
J2thK19 December 2019
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This is an incredible episode of television. In my top 10 of all time, of any show. It is a masterpiece. A work of art.

The writing, direction, sound, acting; the acting was superb. It only focused on 4 characters and they all did an amazing job. Especially Carol and Lizzie.

From the opening scene to the ending credits I was enthralled. And it may even be better on rewatch. The most haunting line I've heard came from Lizzie, "Don't worry, she'll come back". Such a fantastic delivery from a young actress. In that moment you knew something was different.
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5/10
Unrealistic but Shocking
Sankirna17 March 2014
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Everything went on like the rest of the season-talking and more talking(read character development), a few zombies dying until I saw a still Lizzie with her bloody hand holding a knife. That was a WTF moment which was both shocking and unrealistic at the same time. One does not simply kill your own sister just to show that they will come back. Mika was as smart as Liz was stupid. Alas they both couldn't make it.

But my point is, the plot doesn't move at all. I guess we can just watch the season finale and find everyone who survived at the terminus with a few characters in and out.

I'd rate it a 5/10 for the first half hour and the last 5 mins where Carol reveals the truth to Tyreese which was intense.
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10/10
Best Episode Yet
jesseesau7 September 2014
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Honestly, the second half of the fourth season hasn't been the best. For sure there have been some great moments, but it has seemed like the road to Terminus is all just a big set up for the finale. This episode is the first since the mid season finale that seems to be living in the moment rather than hyping us up for later.

As a comic reader, this episode was even more satisfying, as Lizzie and Mika were perfectly similar to Billy and Ben in the comics. I remember watching, and it wasn't until Lizzie humanized the walkers that I realized where this episode was going. This story is one of my absolute favourite moments in the comics, and since the show doesn't have the characters of Billy and Ben, and it has also strayed far away from the source material, it was a nice surprise to see a comic story acted out on screen.

The changes they made were all fantastic, and really added to all four characters in the episode. The character of Tyreese has been slightly disappointing, and this episode really showed that he was more than just the new token African-American cast member, as the scene where he forgives Carol for what happened at the prison added so much to his character.

My favourite change to the comic version is that it was Carol who took over Carl's duty in the books. Honestly, if it was Carl who killed Lizzie at this point in the show, everyone would be calling him a psychopath, especially after the season 3 finale. After everything Carol has gone through with Sophia, watching her tell Lizzie to look at the flowers was so perfectly heartbreaking. Carol has one of the best story arcs on the show so far, and has come so far from being the abused wife, then the mother who lost her daughter, and was completely defeated, into this incredible, ass- kicking mother figure in the group.

Stale acting is something that TWD has struggled with since the first season, and an episode featuring an eleven year old actress in the leading role was doomed to have some rough acting, but I was blown away by the performance that Brighton Sharbino gave. I was actually pretty disappointed that she couldn't have been around for any longer, since great child actors are hard to come by. Kyla Kennedy also did a good job as Mika, and although he didn't have too many scenes, Chad Coleman did great, specifically in this scene with Melissa McBride, who proved that she was one of the strongest performers on the show.

Character development has also been hit and miss, and for Carol and Tyreese heading into the future, this was a definite hit. 10/10
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9/10
Amazing
wilsonhernt201431 March 2014
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This week's Walking Dead took the post-prison group I least cared about and gave them the most surprisingly intense and emotional story of the bunch.

I never anticipated this episode going as full-tilt as it did. And I certainly didn't expect to have the feels I felt. Because, man, that was rough and shockingly hard to watch. In a good way, of course.

So I'll just jump right into it. That scene where Carol shot Old Yeller, sorry I mean Lizzie was excruciating. It was the right enough of coldness on its own, and they could have played Lizzie as being way more toned down emotionally than she was, but instead they had her cry and scream that she was sorry. That she was sorry and "Please don't be mad at me!" That's right. She wasn't pleading for her life. She was bawling because she didn't want Carol, of all things, to be mad at her. She had no idea what was about to happen.

Not only was Lizzie's death a powerful scene, but so was Carol and Tyreese discovering Mika's dead body. With Lizzie having killed her sister to prove to them that she'd come back and wont hurt them. Add to that the fact that Judith was next in line was chilling. The excellent work by Melissa McBride as Carol had to somehow not act completely traumatized by the sight of Mika's body so that she could calmly convince Lizzie to put the gun down and go inside.

She can't be around other people," is what Carol kept telling Tyreese over and over until he understood what needed to happen. Because Lizzie and Judith couldn't be together, and if they separated into two groups they'd all be done for. He now understanding that sometimes we're called upon to do monstrous things in the name of survival. So he allowed himself at the end to forgive Carol for killing Karen.

If Carol had confessed to killing Karen in the scene she and Tyreese had together ten minutes earlier, when Tyreese was holding the gun and we weren't sure if he secretly knew it was her or of she'd be guilted into revealing the truth, he probably would have killed her.
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10/10
Best up to date
oskarft4 April 2014
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Second part of season 4 has a build up in the emotional plane, have not experienced in a long time in any show on TV. The writing keeps getting better and this episode is the peak until now for it.

Finally we get back to the real sacrifices done to characters for the story a all darabont days of first season. not just kill them off but deaths so emotionally powerful.

This episode is art in a zombie landscape.

I hope they keep it up to finale, and onto the next seasons and wrap it up like BBad.

Now going to watch ep 15. fingers crossed.
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10/10
one of the best
maggiesimdb29 September 2021
This episode is truly bone-chilling, it stays with you for a long time. Different in a good way, it adds something to the entirety of the show.
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