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8/10
You don't always want what you get
paul2001sw-118 May 2023
Brain Jones founded the Rolling Stones. He was shy, sexually attractive (and careless with it), and increasingly unhappy for not being Mick Jagger. Kicked out of the band for a level of drug abuse that made him unreliable, he died young a short while later. Nick Broomfield's film is a sympathetic account of his life that doesn't hide from the fact he wasn't always a nice person to be around, and a sad lesson of the perils of getting what you might have thought you wanted. The film relies quite a lot on Bill Wyman, but Wyman actually provides some perspective that those who stayed in the band for longer perhaps would not provide. It's an elegaic portrait of an ultimately tragic life.
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8/10
an outsider in his own band
ferguson-615 November 2023
Greetings again from the darkness. Nick Broomfield has been making documentaries for nearly 50 years. The list of subjects is quite diverse, yet his interest in musicians seems to recur periodically, but even in these, his focus is mainly on the person rather than the notes on the scale or the performances on stage. A perfect example is his 2019 doc, MARIANNE & LEONARD: WORDS OF LOVE. His latest on Brian Jones again fits the description.

Brian Jones formed The Rolling Stones in 1962 as a British Blues Band. Here we are more than 60 years later and in 2023, the band has recently released a new album and single ... yet very few remember or even know the name Brian Jones. Director Broomfield sets out to tell the story of this enigmatic and talented musician who was ultimately kicked out of his dream band, leading to his much-too-young death shortly after. On the surface it's a tragic rock 'n roll story, but deep down, it's the story of Jones' personality and substance abuse.

Former Rolling Stones' bassist Bill Wyman is featured here and provides a great deal of backstory. For more on Wyman, I recommend the 2019 documentary, THE QUIET ONE, which portrays his obsessive attention to collections and history. Alongside Wyman's input, there is archival footage from Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Marianne Faithfull, and Eric Burdon. Even the older interviews and clips help us understand Brian Jones' difficulty as the band evolved from blues to rock. We also learn more about his ability to father kids at the level of an NBA player. But what really strikes is his problems stemming from an abuse of alcohol and drugs (and women).

Andrew Loog Oldham pushed the band towards commercial success with rock 'n roll and away from Brian's beloved blues. So he lost his position as band manager and his preferred style of music, as Mick Jagger's on stage persona took over and Jagger/Richards compositions filled a role that Brian couldn't. He was fired from the band after the "Let it Bleed" album and prior to the band's next U. S. tour. It is mentioned that Brian lost the one thing that mattered to him ... the band. He lost his life a few weeks later, and kudos to Broomfield for not dwelling on the conspiracy theories around his death.

Included here are interviews and clips of early Stones' live performances that you've likely not seen before. I can't help but contrast Brian's story with that of Robert Fripp in the recent documentary I watched on King Crimson. Two original architects of long-standing bands - one lost everything, while the other remained and rebuilt the band a few times. Two musical geniuses with opposite paths.

In theaters November 17, 2023.
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7/10
Sad Story
crumpytv17 September 2023
I was very interested in this documentary as I knew very little about Brian Jones, his background and his demise.

To be honest, by the end, I think I would rather have been left none the wiser.

Around about the 20 minute mark, Pat Andrews, the mother of one his many offspring, summed him up perfectly. This interview was recorded in 1965, so it was not a matter of hindsight, it was very much relevant and of the time.

Maybe it wasn't possible, but I would like to have seen more about his early childhood with a view to gaining more of an insight into how his character developed and became to utterly selfish and irresponsible.

I can empathise with his feeling of not wanting to be part the monoculture that was so prevalent in the 1950s and early 1960s, I am from that time myself. I feel there must have been more to his relationship with his parents than was presented as he seemed to be effortlessly accepted into oth-er families, only to abuse their hospitality by getting the daughters pregnant. Once is careless, twice is foolish ... five times!! What was he thinking?

His demise was mainly down to being completely lost psychologically and latterly being influenced by the wrong type of women.

The Rolling Stones was the band he put together, it was his band, but he soon found he couldn't write songs as was the new way of things at the time, and Mick Jagger was a more obvious spokesman for the group and he was soon sidelined by manager Andrew Loog Oldham.

You can see in the documentary that he was lost when the Stones were being interviewed.

On the plus side it was good to know how influential he was on the Stones early records.
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7/10
Where are the Stones songs?
hutch209 December 2023
I grew up loving the British Invasion. The Beatles, Stones, The Kinks, and the Who were the soundtrack of my early teen life. When I saw The Stones and Brian Jones was playing at our local "Art" house movie theater, I had to see it. Brian was my favorite when the Stones first hit the big time. Loved his hair and his Vox Teardrop guitar which is featured prominently in the movie.

Quite simply, the writing and the content of the movie is excellent. It covered Brian's life from a child to his unfortunate death in 1969. It would have been nice if some of the remaining Stones would have been available to give the viewer their spin on Brian 50 years on, but that wasn't the case with only retired bass guitarist Bill Wyman talking on camera from a point of hindsight. And when he first appears, my wife and I had no idea who he was! He looked nothing like the Bill Wyman I remember, but we all age.

But the biggest issue with the doc is the producers and directors could not either afford to pay for the rights to any Stones songs written by members of the band or could not get the approval from the Stones to use their songs. For the exception of a few snippets of Satisfaction and another tune or two, only the early covers of Blues standards which was the Stones bread and butter in the early days are featured. I reminded me of the Hendrix movie that came out about 25 years ago that only had Hendrix songs written by others such as Dylan, and other Blues legends. It's about getting rights to the songs that would have made this movie pop.

Some scenes used what I would call, elevator music, as background which was cringeworthy at the least.

Most of the footage was new to me and that was the best part of the movie. The music, meh...
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10/10
Heartfelt Tribute to Brian Jones
TerrorTribble20 November 2023
I got to see The Stones & Brian Jones documentary on the big screen the other night. It was for a film festival and the place was packed. Director Nick Broomfield, Stones bassist Bill Wyman and biographer Paul Trynka definitely made sure Brian's musical contributions were front and center. He really deserved more credit for his contributions to the Stones' hits. The women in Brian's life were also a very strong presence throughout the documentary, which is awesome. And most of all, the lesson I took away is, when you see someone having a hard time in life, be a friend. Say something. Just be kind.
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8/10
a troubled man
MikeyB179313 April 2024
This is an unblemished look at Brian Jones and the band he helped to create.

It shows Brian as a very troubled individual who abused women, was a substance abuser - and essentially lost control of himself.

It was like he couldn't compete and adjust to the fast-paced changes that were part of the Stones during the 1960s.

This is a very personal documentary with many interviews - of the band members, of Brian's wife and girlfriends, plus of his parents. With his parents, he could never find acceptance, and this is very sad indeed.

The documentary also high-lights the musical contributions he made to the band.
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10/10
The Last Word on Brian Jones
atlantic96526 December 2023
Warning: Spoilers
The late Bill Wyman who was closest to Jones during his time with the Stones said this documentary is the truth and nothing but the truth. This documentary is the last word on Brian Jones, and his death. There is a book by the same name which you should buy in addition to this film. This is the sad story of a gifted he had flawed man who I don't think was evil, but very mixed up and misunderstood. There was a film called STONED in 2005 which was based on a book called " Brian Jones - Who Killed Christopher Robin?: The Truth Behind The Murder of a Rolling Stone ", the book like the film is all largely truth and conjecture. This docuentary was professionally done without bias. In the years after Jones death the conspiracy theory industry has been whipping up their withches brew of truth-myth-fiction. This documentary dispels all the myths. An outstanding work. Bravo to the producers.
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