Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (TV Series) Gnothi Seauton (2008) User Reviews

Getting new identities

[Tweekums · 8/10 · 23 January 2010]

Having travelled five years into the future Sarah, John and Cameron need to get new IDs, it shouldn't be a problem as Cameron knows that another group has been sent from the future to assist them but when she and Sarah get to their safe house they find them all dead... along with a terminator who is playing dead. After a fight with Cameron he gets away. With their preferred source of IDs dead they are forced to go to Enrique, Sarah's old supplier, he claims to have retired but has a cousin who will provide them... for a price. While Sarah and Cameron are out trying to get IDs it becomes clear that the terminator which was pursuing them in the past is still operational; somebody finds the head which travelled through time with them, this reboots and somehow summons its headless body.

There is plenty of enjoyable action in this episode, as to be expected this nearly all involves Cameron; Summer Glau is great in the role. She also appears in a shocking scene where she executes somebody who may have been an informant, this made it clear that she was the sort of terminator who will kill those who endanger her mission.

Gnothi Seauton is another pretty exciting episode of "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles"

[tavm · 8/10 · 16 January 2008]

Having sent herself and the Connors ahead to 2007 by a computer that was hidden in a bank vault at the end of last week's episode, Cameron, after three days, now tells Sarah about getting new ID's. Sarah and Cameron go to an old friend named Enrique who tells them he's now retired and sends them to his nephew, Carlos. Carlos agrees to make the fake cards for $2000. Meanwhile, tired of being a "statue" at home, John goes to a mall where he goes on computer to find about events that happened between 1999 and the current time but gets interrupted by an employee there before he finds out about his mother's death of cancer in 2005. He does find out about Charlie Dixon, Sarah's fiancée, and sneaks into his house where Dixon's pleasantly surprised. John hits him before he can get any closer and leaves. Later, Charlie's wife asks him if he's all right. He says yes but his face reveals otherwise when she leaves. When the Connors and Cameron go to the safe to get the money, they hear footsteps. It's the "teacher" terminator from the previous episode! They escape. After paying the money and getting their ID's, Sarah, knowing Spanish, overhears Carlos reveal his uncle as a rat. She goes back to Enrique who tells her he did not betray her. While she pointed her gun, it's Cameron who shoots from behind as Sarah cries over Enrique's dead body. It's later revealed from an FBI hidden recording that he lied to Sarah...Another exciting episode of "TTSCC". Loved seeing Cameron do exact movements and attitude of a lady next to her as she stood outside while Sarah was dealing with Carlos. Also cool seeing her get knocked out by a car and thrown outside a window several stories down and then get back up several seconds later as if nothing happened! And finding out that the wife of Charlie was also Penny of "Lost" from a TV Guide blog was another thing that was awesome! Both episodes, while having some action, were slow in plot pace but next weeks preview shows the program should up the excitement considerably. So until next time... Update 1/24/08-Correction: The terminator after the Connors and Cameron at the safe was not the teacher from the previous episode (he was still in his skeletal phase with his head missing which he recovered here) but a different one entirely. If the two out of five that didn't find my comment useful was because of that mistake, I now stand corrected.

Terminator:The Sarah Connor Chronicles-Gnothi Seauton

[Scarecrow-88 · 7/10 · 2 January 2011]

Sarah, John, and Cameron successfully fake their deaths in the bank security vault but need money and fake Id's. John of the future sent human freedom fighters into the past so that the trio could be supplied with items they need to survive. Enrique(Tony Amendola), a Spanish friend who used to supply Sarah with the fake Id's, has claimed he's retired, sending her to his gangster nephew, Carlos(Jesse Garcia)into a dangerous Latin American neighborhood(there's a funny scene where Glau imitates Carlos' girl, a lookout with an attitude). Some language in Spanish, however, informs Sarah that Enrique might've betrayed her. Meanwhile, John visits the home of EMT Charley, the man Sarah was engaged to giving away his secret of being alive. Sarah prepares to send John back to school and a former Terminator(the one destroyed in the bank vault)reassembles itself when the separated head is triggered on by a cat. There's also another Terminator on the loose, the one responsible for murdering the freedom fighters Sarah and Cameron were supposed to meet. For his own protection, Sarah insists John stay inside the house until the proper documents are in order which has his nerves on end. As in other episodes, Glau once again must combat a T-1000, this time when both go out a window, the killer machine evades her because she is a cybernetic model he isn't familiar with..cool moment is when Cameron is hit by a car and tells the occupants inside not to freak out while her head is through their windshield!

Terminators through Time

[starsmore · 21 February 2008]

The movies establish that only biological material can transfer (and I guess mimetic alloy that looks like biological material for the T-1000) back through time. Hence why they show up naked, and hence why the terminators are metal wrapped in a meat shell to transport. So yeah, it's still a plot hole that Cromartie's head bounces through after Sarah zaps him.

Of course, if it was Cromartie's severed head with the biological covering still on there, it might slide.

Of course, the bigger plot hole is what about the rest of his body? What happens to it for 8 years? One would think that the cops would find a headless body, do an autopsy and figure out he's a tin man...

Cromartie's Head Time Travel Explained.

[Perfect_X_SOLDIER · 10/10 · 25 September 2008]

Josh Friedman made an official comment about it on Feb 11th, 2008 on his Producer's Blog.

http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Producer%27s+Blog?t=anon

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"Please be assured that I am VERY familiar with the rules of time travel as explained by Kyle Reese in the first movie. When Cromartie's head goes through the time bubble, THERE IS FLESH ON IT. If you can't see it, that's because a) it's burning off very quickly and b) certain people don't like it when we show burning flesh, cyborg or not.

(Historical note: The first person to ask me this head/bubble question was Jared in Props--a year ago while we were shooting the pilot.)"

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The only thing that is non-organic in any way that's been capable of time travel, and has not yet been fully explained in the entire Terminator Series is the "liquid metal" AKA mimetic polyalloy. This may be due to how it replicates and mimics substances that it comes in contact with. It may be explained later in the series.

Interesting

[Littleman95 · 8/10 · 7 January 2021]

John keeps acting like a child (thinking about it in Terminator 2: Judgment Day was grown up, right? surely more than here, in my opinion) while the girls are trying to set identity problem right. And this is needed to live their lives.

I've spotted a mistake but it is negligible, nothing really bothering.

Know Yourself

[claudio_carvalho · 6/10 · 14 January 2009]

Three days after their jump to 2007, John is completely bored at home while Sarah and Cameron are seeking new identities. They visit the forger Enrique, an old acquaintance of Sarah, but the man tells that he is retired and indicates his nephew Carlos that demands twenty thousand dollars for the business. Meanwhile John visits Charley Dixon in spite of Sarah's recommendation to stay at home. Later the trio gets the necessary money for the IDs in the safe of a group sent from John from the future to help Sarah but eliminated by a terminator. Cameron explains the fate of Sarah if they have stayed in her timeline. When Sarah and Cameron overhear a conversation of Carlos with another gangster, they suspect that Enrique is a snitcher, and Cameron takes a decision against Sarah's will.

The second episode is actually a sequel of the "Pilot", with Sarah, John and Cameron settle themselves down in 2007 and getting new identities. The travel of the Cromartie's skull to the future apparently contradicts the explanation of time travel of the first episode; there are people studying the lines and trying to explain it, but at least for an average viewer like me it is not clear and seems to be a plot hole indeed. The relationship and attitudes of Sarah with Cameron are ungrateful and unjustifiable. My vote is six.

Title (Brazil): "Gnothi Seauton"

Cromartie's Head and the time unit

[neostobai-1 · 10/10 · 8 March 2008]

This goof has been bugging me too. Just to clarify, only organic tissue can utilize the time displacement equipment (time unit). I pulled this quote off of the Internet Movie Script Database:

Reese: You go naked. Something about the field generated by a living organism. Nothing dead will go.

Silberman: Why?

Reese: I didn't build the f&#*ing thing.

Silberman: Okay. Okay. But this...(consults his notes) cyborg...if it's metal...

Reese: Surrounded by living tissue.

So how did Cromartie's head got through? One hypothesis is that the time unit that "the engineer" built can allow non-organic material through. To explain this, let me first iron out another detail. In Terminator, Reese says:

We captured the lab complex. Found the...whatever it was called...the time-displacement equipment. The Terminator had already gone through. They sent two of us to intercept, then zeroed the whole place. Sumner didn't make it.

Silberman: Then how are you supposed to get back?

Reese: Can't. Nobody goes home. Nobody else comes through. It's just him and me.

Now does this mean that you can only go in one direction, the past? Not to include it as "fully-canon" but the T2-3D attraction at Universal Studios allowed it. The bank vault time unit also allowed our heroes to travel 8 years into the future. My secondary hypothesis is that different, more-advanced time units that have been created (due to the ripples in time that the Terminator, Reese, Sumner and all the others made) have overcome some of the obstacles of the original time unit. Certainly if something like Judgment Day can be postponed, if not thwarted, then technological advancements are possible.

This leads back to my first hypothesis that "the engineers" obviously more-advanced time unit can allow non-organic material to be transported.

My only other concern is that Reese's quote on not being able to return is because they "zeroed" the original time unit. However, being that you don't require an arriving device, this really doesn't matter. He couldn't have gone back because he doesn't have the equipment available, nor the skill to create a time unit, like "the engineer."

No Place to Hide...

[Xstal · 8/10 · 8 August 2022]

Establishing a basis, is harder than you think, when the people you need help from, will betray you and be fink, with your presence clearly noticed, won't be long before you're found, and the binaries are counting, that your numbers will be downed.

The "Goofs" Section is WRONG

[srasberry-1 · 25 January 2008]

The IMDb "Goofs" section states:

"Plot holes: Despite restating in the first episode that only organic material can travel through time, the second episode opens with a terminator skull flying out of the time vortex." The episode never says (nor do the movies) that "only organic material can travel through time." The episode merely says that "you can't bring anything with you" when you time travel. Non-organic material must be able to travel through time or no terminators would be able to travel (as they are mostly non-organic). So this is not a "plot hole." The "goof" should be deleted and the author needs to check his/her facts before pointing out incorrect "errors."