- Penn Jillette: [while juggling pins and Teller next to him does tricks with cards] When I was a kid, I took up juggling and thought I was at the bottom of the entertainment ladder. There was no *art* to it, I just practiced. Later I met Teller and realized I wasn't at the bottom of the ladder because magicians are... just faking it. Then we met hypnotists... and realized there was a group even worse off than we were. They can't do anything or even *fake* anything! Audience members just entertain each other. It's no wonder even an *honest* hypnotist needs to bullsh*t himself a little.