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8/10
Lessons Lost: GI's Speaking Truth to Power During the Vietnam War
roland-10430 May 2006
By 1968 the civilian anti-Vietnam war movement was beginning to expand, young men were escaping to Canada to avoid the draft, and former combatants were starting to protest the war. Like most Americans, I had no idea that at the same time there was a snowballing anti-war movement taking place right within the ranks of active duty military personnel.

Awareness of the disconnect between Pentagon and White House rhetoric, on the one hand, and realities on the ground in Vietnam, on the other, especially our massive extermination of civilian lives, began to seep through every pore within the military, prompting protests that were strikingly varied, creative, and, while often made up of small, localized actions, collectively impressive. To the point that by 1971, as one army colonel put it, the active GI anti-war rebellion had "infested the entire armed services."

David Zeiger, writing and directing his first feature for the big screen, does a splendid job of pulling together the stories of participants in this unprecedented, diffuse, largely unorganized, multicentered movement. There are plenty of talking heads, but they aren't experts, they're people reminiscing today about their personal antiwar activities 35 years ago while on active duty. (We also see old shots of these same people when they were young and in uniform.)

We hear from participants in actions as diverse as the following examples indicate: Proliferation of forbidden antiwar newspapers on military bases; Passive refusal to participate in antiriot actions at the 1968 Chicago Democratic Party Presidential Convention; Boycott of a chain of jewelry stores located near military bases that pandered to men about to go to Vietnam (Their selling point: the prospect of dying in Vietnam made it urgent to buy a bauble for your wife or mother now, before you go. The ads were juxtaposed with photos of soldiers who had recently died).

And more: An Air Force Intelligence group based in Thailand that refused to transmit further intelligence because it was being used as a basis for undisclosed Cambodian bombings; A group of active duty Army personnel that swore not to fight, rioting after their mass arrest and incarceration in an overcrowded Army stockade; A physician - a dermatologist - who refused to continue training Special Forces medics to treat skin infections of Vietnamese children – part of a "win the hearts and minds" campaign – once he learned that we were killing untold thousands of civilians by napalm bombing of villages; Pilots refusing to fly bombing raids; The first major mass public testimony by former combatants about atrocities against civilians, at a 3-day conclave in 1971, in Detroit (memorialized in the film, "Winter Soldier").

These stories and many others are told here, involving officers as well as grunts, from every branch of the service. What is so compelling is that the passion of these people has not ebbed despite all the years that have passed, and the many sacrifices and punishments they absorbed consequent to taking a stand. Perhaps there are also people out there who stood up against the war from within the ranks and later regretted doing so. We don't meet any of them.

We do meet Jane Fonda, who reminisces with evident conviction today, about her participation, along with Donald Sutherland and other entertainers, in the unauthorized "FTA" variety shows they conducted near military bases during the Vietnam war, antiwar shows that roused huge crowds as they mocked the Bob Hope tours.

The men and women – inside the military and among civilians throughout this country – who bravely spoke truth to power during and after the Vietnam war gave the U.S. peace movement its best opportunity since the Civil War to acknowledge the costs of war and seek a better way. Western Europe figured it out. But we didn't. Lessons learned became lessons lost. And, God help us, look where we are today. My grade: 8/10 B+.
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9/10
You're all ridiculous
dsallen-218 January 2007
Did any of you see this film? It was moving and spectacular. How can you compare it to a Michael Moore film? It is all about veterans and contains countless interviews with veterans and is an accurate portrayal of veterans who opposed the Vietnam War. These men risked their lives defending your sorry asses, and all you can do is condemn them as Hollywood liberals. Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland are not the focus of this film; it's about the men who fought in Vietnam and then opposed the war, in Vietnam and at home. Not only are they war heroes, they are also champions of free speech and civil rights. I highly recommend this film.
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9/10
"Welcome Home; thanks for your service..."
pgruendler-120 June 2006
"... to your country!" With these words I shook hands with Jane Fonda at the Atlanta showing one recent Friday night. Attendance was excellent, the audience was mostly older but there was a smattering of very young - some of whom asked questions of Jane and David and a Vietnam veteran up front between shows.... Yet, I could have answered those questions, too; I am a Vietnam combat infantry vet who was an existentialist then; I am a Christian now. I wanted to ask Jane: "Ms Fonda, do you love Jesus?" - but it is obvious she does. She shook hands with me - a huge, ugly guy in a "Vietnam Veteran" ball cap, not knowing me from Adam, and there was nothing but love and a hint of sadness in those beautiful eyes. Yes, we all made mistakes in those days.... it was cathartic for this vet to watch and regret and weep and mourn the live not lived, the sacrifices needlessly made by the thousands... but the movie has seen the light of day and for that I will ever be grateful. See it with a vet. Thanks to all fellow vets and Welcome Home; your service is appreciated!
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10/10
Real
marta204625 February 2007
I thought I knew a lot about the Vietnam War protest movement, but obviously, not enough.

I knew some soldiers had thrown their medals on the congressional steps and gone to peace marches, but not that thousands of American soldiers were actively involved in ending the war from within. And not because they were afraid to die or get hurt, but because they realized that the Vietnam War was immoral, illegal and they were killing people in a country who had never done anything against the United States THEY are the ones who deserve most of the credit for stopping the Vietnam war, not the civilians at home. The soldiers risked beatings, imprisonment and even death to protest the lies and atrocities of the Vietnam war, not for financial gain or glory, but to preserve their sense of morality.

They showed true bravery--saying "NO MORE!" and were able to stop the bloodshed--for at least a few years. Thanks, guys!!!!

This documentary also discusses the lie spread by right-wingers that protesters spit on returning soldiers, even ones on stretchers. A former Vietnam Vet investigated it thoroughly-- it DID NOT happen!

Every American soldier in Iraq should see this. It's from the mouths of thousands of their own.

On a technical level: The rare vintage footage is mastered at a very high level--audio is clean and clear. Interesting soundtrack, not the "Oldies" I'd expected, but modern, edgy--which was the perfect choice.

And, oh, yeah, just in case you don't get the message from the cover, this is not a pro-con view of the Vietnam War. This film is definitely Anti-war.
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10/10
Excellent documentary on the hidden history of anti-war soldiers and vets
nealrob1717 May 2007
Warning: Spoilers
I thought that I was aware during the 60's and 70's regarding the War in Vietnam. Clearly I was not. I completely missed this exceedingly important part of the protests of U.S. involvement in Southeast Asia. I had thought that the student protests were a big part of our finally leaving Vietnam. It appears that is probably highly exaggerated as it was the actual soldiers who rebelled against the war, how it was being waged and the many, many lies we back in the States were told. And, this was at a time that the press was not the lapdog of the government as it is now with the Bush administration.

A truly amazing moment, though small (spoiler here), was the myth after the war that returning soldiers were spat upon at the airport. A brief and interesting discussion about this leads me to believe that it was another Hawk-led bit of propaganda to continue trying to embarrass and shame those who opposed the war.

Bottom line is that this excellent documentary shows us some incredibly brave heroes who sacrificed a great deal personally to oppose the War in Vietnam. And, that our soldiers are really a wonderfully brave representation of the best in our country. Bravo to these great vets, and of course, to those involved in this present war.
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10/10
A "must-see" documentary!
Red-12519 November 2005
Sir! No Sir! (2005) written and directed by David Zeiger is the "must-see" documentary of 2005. The film tells the story of the GI resistance movement during the Vietnam war.

I'm a Vietnam-era veteran, and I was peripherally involved in the military-based resistance to the war. Although I certainly wasn't an important player, I knew enough about what was happening to attest that the depiction in "Sir! No Sir!" is accurate and balanced. (Most of my own anti-war activity took place when I was off duty and could participate in public peace demonstrations. The GI's who opposed the war when they were on active duty took much greater risks than I did.)

Jane Fonda played a pivotal role in the anti-war movement, and she has a pivotal role in this movie. It's interesting that Ms. Fonda has--no doubt under pressure--retracted some of her statements and apologized for some of her anti-war activities. In the film she is not apologetic about her actions, and she clearly believes that what she did was right. I'm not sure which persona represents the real Jane Fonda. I hope it's the unashamed activist who was trying to save lives--both US and Vietnamese.

The movie spends quite a bit of time discussing the famous story about returning GI's getting spit at by peace activists. I had always accepted this story as true. All the civilian peace activists I knew were in sympathy with the GI's--we opposed the generals and the Commander- in-Chief, Richard Nixon, as well as his chief adviser, Henry Kissinger. However, I assumed that a small splinter group of peace activists really did harass returning GI's.

The film takes the position that the spitting episode never happened--it's an urban legend. I don't know the truth of this matter, but the fact that it may not have happened is certainly something worth thinking about.

I was interested that the word "Iraq" never appeared in the film. However, the implications of this movie are obvious. We are again bogged down in an unpopular war that cannot be won. Before the war on Iraq started, many of us in the peace movement said, "It's going to be another Vietnam. U.S. GI's and Iraqis will die, and the country will be divided." The rest is history, as they say.

In summary, this is an important documentary, whether or not you agree that the GI resistance movement was the correct and proper response to the war in Vietnam. See it and decide for yourself!
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10/10
a must-see for vets and dodgers alike
Rick NYC-221 April 2006
I sat in my college dorm room in 1972, after student deferments had been discontinued under political pressure, and I watched TV with my roommates as the man pulled birthdays out of a bowl in order to put them in numerical order to determine who would get called up first, second, and so on, according to their date of birth. Some of us drew lower numbers and started to sweat, not knowing if we would end up running to Canada, maybe forever, or if we would try to find a doctor who would give us an out (flat feet, allergies, homosexuality), but the medical excuses were getting harder and harder to pull off. By 1972, the draft boards were getting tired of everybody claiming to be gay or psychotic, so they drafted the weirdos and sissies anyway. It was a time when the fear became so palpable, that it drove me bats insane, so I hope people can understand why some of us protested, even violently. Now, to see that soldiers in Vietnam resisted the war even after they had been sent over there comes as something of a revelation because that fact has been glossed over by revisionist historians working for the power elite. This documentary shows how some guys resisted fighting and were court-martialed for it, in some cases being put on trial for treason, with a possible death sentence. Then there were the underground presses. Tons of homemade newspapers were circulated under threat of dishonorable discharge or even court martial for merely having a copy of a rebellious rag. The GI's who published these things were heroes in the truest sense. Jane Fonda, who is mostly remembered for her visit to Hanoi, was actually in Nam entertaining the troops in a bizarre parallel to Bob Hope. He would put on "patriotic" USO shows while Fonda and her troupe were invited by soldiers who liked her politics better. And it drove the officers crazy, but they couldn't stop her from going where she was invited. God has blessed me by allowing me to meet Ms. Fonda. She was presenting this film in NYC, and she hung out at the cafe in the IFC movie theater, where it is now playing. I pulled out my draft card, which I have been carrying in my wallet for 34 years. I asked her to autograph it, and she said, "Oh, cool!" Her signature is on the card right above that of S. Witherspoon, the local draft board administrator. Email me if you want me to send you a jpeg of this little artifact of history.
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10/10
awesome film
drunkenduncan2 April 2006
i had the opportunity to see this film in advance to write a term paper, it uses good evidence and is well done. if you want further information look up "Soldiers in Revolt" by David Courtright from Haymarket Books, and "The American War: Vietnam 1960-1975" by Johnathan Neale from Bookmarks. both of these books are invaluable resources and are well researched, Neale is based in large part from Courtright, but is a good summary of the situation in Vietnam throughout the French period, and into the American war, and it ends with a look at Vietnam today. Courtright is an in-depth look into the GI revolts, and the anti-war movement surrounding it.

The film Sir No Sir builds on these books and gives a compelling argument concerning the end of the Vietnam War.
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Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die
valis194918 May 2011
SIR! NO SIR! demonstrates the unbelievable scope and power of the anti- war movement within all branches of the American military during the Vietnam War era. This documentary serves as a reminder for those of us who lived through this turbulent period of American history, and provides a cogent and factual historical record for those who were not yet born. Contemporary American pundits on the Far Right would like to see these truths silenced...permanently. The film shows that anti-war sentiment and anti-war activity permeated all sectors within the American Military establishment, and many brave men sacrificed their careers, and their very lives to stop our country's unnecessary and immoral war in South East Asia. One thing that struck me while watching the film, is that today, huge media conglomerates are being owned and operated by fewer individuals and groups, and how easy it has become to suppress and distort America's long history of dissent. These days, any critical examination of this country's involvement in foreign entanglements is perceived as disloyalty to the troops. Nothing can be farther from the truth, and SIR! NO SIR! shows that the genesis of this particular heresy began in the 1960's as those in power attempted to silence opposition to one of America's most unpopular wars. The film also boasted many Special Features which helped to reaffirm the theme that there was a concerted and intelligent opposition to the war in Vietnam , and this view was shared by a significant portion of this nation's fighting forces. Great film.
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10/10
A must see especially for younger people today...
MarieGabrielle22 February 2011
Who are returning from Iraq, who have questions and no answers.

I was interested in this film because Jane Fonda (demonized by the recent influx of right wing media hate mongers) clearly was proud of her position against the Vietnam War.

There are so many officers and people who lived through this. The doctor who protests being a trainer for new recruits, he mentions how dermatologists were used by the army so they could aid the Vietnamese to thinking the U.S. was helpful, even while bombing their villages. Victims were women, children, and the elderly. It is sad to me that no one hears the truth in todays corporate media.

Anyone who was born in the 70's or 80's must see this film to get a real picture of what was happening at that time. The My Lai Massacre and other atrocities. The only way I became familiar with the resonance of destruction was having read poet Anne Sexton's "My Lai Soldier" and I was interested to read and research what actually happened in Vietnam.

It is so important since we are yet going through more troubled times as a nation, the wars and what they do to humanity should be understood, and learned from. Noteworthy also, I don't recall being taught about Vietnam in honors history, American History taught the colonial days and founding fathers. Something young people should be learning about as they are at a recruit-able age in high school. Highly recommended to anyone wanting to learn the disturbing facts and reality. 10/10.
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