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7/10
Powerful Wolf in TV Movie Clothes
Big Man-628 December 2004
Gripping, if flawed, version of the events surrounding Rock Theriault's commune/sect in 1980s Quebec.

Mario Azzopardi's TV training (Stargate, Outer Limits) is weirdly effective in that the look of the film – all 'movie of the week' clichés (flat lighting, static camera) – makes the coarse language and violence all the more jarring and effective.

And if Polly Walker (Patriot Games) does little to dispel this atmosphere, the performances of Isabelle Blais (The Barbarian Invasions) and (in particular) Luc Picard as Theriault go along way to dignifying an otherwise standard and manipulative affair.
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6/10
Made-for-tv made better
Jona-929 April 2002
Savage Messiah is a true story. The story of a Canadian social worker, once beaten by her husband, who discovers the women and children of a small commune are being abused by their leader. This leader, it turns out, calls himself Moses and has made the nine women living with him his concubines, mistreating them in the most violent ways.

This story made quite a lot of noise when it came out during the late eighties, both in Ontario and Quebec, especially because of the cruelty of the acts involved and the outrageous control "Moses" (Roch Thériault) had on "his" people.

While attempting to depict, sometimes with success, how it was like to live on the Church River commune, the movie mostly follows, in a very straightforward way, the social worker who discovers the truth and tries to make everything stop. Thus, it very soon starts to resemble these true stories often seen on tv on Friday night. Of course, the budget here is a little bigger, and the actors quite a bit more talented, but apart from that it just feels like a big made-for-tv movie, very easy to follow, with its few strong emotional moments along the way, but no real character development. And although the advertising prompted the viewer to "be the judge", the movie clearly adopts a subjective point of view. In the end, it's an interesting story, although violent, but a movie that, sadly or not, will not make history.
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5/10
Engage!
Spuzzlightyear16 December 2005
Commune and polygamy cults are always interesting to me, so I was quite interested in seeing 'Savage Messiah', a supposedly true story about a cult-like figure who had his own commune in the hills in the Quebec country. Funny how I didn't hear about this until I watched this movie. Interesting. Anyways, the leader of course, treats his women and kids like garbage, while the women feel this is the price to pay, as he is their God in some ways. The Quebec children's ministry had a different say, and the story is about the fight to rescue the children, and ultimately, the wives, out of there. While this is an amazing subject, the big problem I had with this is Luc "Engage!" Picard's overboard portrayal of Roch Theriault. From the minute he appears on the screen, he's chewing it up furiously as the leader. Everyone else is fine in this movie, but Picard is just annoying. The other problem I had with this, is the ridiculous religious iconography the director chose on certain scenes, especially when Theriault is caught, and he assumes a crucification pose, and his followers are all hunched on the ground. Give me a break. While the rest of the movie is good, (and Polly Walker is great!) I could have done without those two elements.
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Creepy and Disturbing!
stanarthur2 March 2003
The subject matter of the film is pretty gritty, compelling stuff. It was very hard to watch at times. The main character, the commune leader is played perfectly by Luc Picard. He's EXTREMELY creepy, and gets creepier as his world starts to fall apart. The courtroom sequence where one of the little girls tells in explicit detail the kind of debauchery that's been passing for recreational activity at the commune is absolutely disgusting. The cult leader's final attempts to regain control of his commune are deeply disturbing.

There's something unique about Canadian films. The early Cronenberg films had it... like Rabid, Scanners and Videodrome. Strange Brew had it. This movie has bags of it. It's kind of a 16mm vibe. There are also scenes that are simple and yet brutally honest that are used to develop character, break the tension and probably fill out a lean script. For instance, there's a scene in a bar where a group of women are hanging out. One of the women begins to tell a story about going out to find a man for the night. She's pretty obnoxious about it, using a lot of colorful language to describe her sexual needs. This story goes on and on, much longer than it would in any Hollywood film, but therein lies the real entertainment here.
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7/10
Very well done
anthromayer26 November 2002
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Very well done for a Canadian film. The film captured the true reality of these children and women whom suffered greatly! Sort of disturbing to know that this is a true story. The only problem that I had with the movie was that I couldn;'t figure out what province they were in. *SPOILER* Roche and his family (if you can call it that) have french accents so there is an assumption this is where it is talking place. When the police show up to do their business they are in OPP cars yet when the movie is finished they literally blurt out that this happened in Nova Scotia.
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7/10
Worth watching
mikelaurie10 March 2003
Luc Picard gives a convincing performance as a crazy leader of a small Canadian cult. Based on a true story a crazy cult leader who views himself as a messiah, and brain washes nine women into being his wives and slaves. A local children's aid worker takes on the cult leader to the save the children and women he is abusing.
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5/10
Just another crazy cult leader story.
=G=8 February 2003
"Savage Messiah" tells the story of the rise and fall of a mad Canadian cult leader (Picard) who maintains a wilderness commune with assorted concubines and children whom he abuses. A serious, earnest, straight forward docudrama, "SM" tells its story factually with the superficiality of a news story, the "feel" of a budget conscious teleplay, and tethered melodrama making it only of marginal interest when compared with the likes Charles Manson or Jim Jones. "Savage Messiah" should be an interesting watch for anyone with a specific interest in Roch Theriault story but a ho-hummer for all others. (C+)
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10/10
Outstanding drama about a Manson-like cult
jobla4 November 2003
This excellent drama is one of the best films about a cult that I have seen since the early eighties (SPLIT IMAGE and TICKET TO HEAVEN spring to mind from that era). The supporting performance by Quebecois actress Isabelle Blais is Oscar-worthy. Her portrayal of a brainwashed woman who finally sees the light is the film's most memorable aspect, but all of the performances are top notch.
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8/10
This movie is based on a true story.
jacey_7603116 August 2008
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Roch Theriault was a charismatic leader of a tiny religious group near Burnt River, Ont., between 1977 and 1989. His religious cult became increasingly bizarre and cruel, however, and soon social workers and police were investigating reports of abuse of the women and children and eventually the death of an infant. Theriault chopped off the hand of one of his concubines and killed his wife by disemboweling her. Theriault, who wanted to be called Moses, was brilliant at manipulating both the legal system and vulnerable individuals, but he also had a maniacal streak that triggered brutal punishment and even torture. He is one of the craziest and sickest criminal(s) in Canadian history. He is serving a life sentence after being convicted of murder in 1993.
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Excellent Film
nyugrd20 June 2003
An excellent, thought provoking film. Well acted throughout, disturbing at times, you feel for the characters. The theme of spousal/partner abuse is primary here, and I do not believe I have ever seen a better description of the "battered spouse" syndrome on film.

While this movie obviously didn't have a 50 million dollar budget, the results do not suffer. Brilliant and highly recommended.
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8/10
An intelligent and disturbing drama
moviesleuth25 December 2009
Periodically, we hear of religious cults gone wrong, leading to the deaths of many people. The Peoples Temple, the Branch Davidians, and Heaven's Gate are just a few of the infamous cults that have destroyed the lives of many people. However, there is a psychological factor in both the people who join and the people who lead these cults. "Savage Messiah" bravely explores these areas in an intelligent and thought-provoking way.

Paula Jackson (Polly Walker) is a social worker for Children's Aid, a government program dedicated to protecting children (and wives if applicable) from abuse. One day, she is visited by a group of women who live in a commune with a man named Roch (Luc Picard), whom they believe is the prophet Moses. The women ask for assistance in protecting the kids from the upcoming Canadian winter. She agrees, but after an infant from the commune dies, she begins investigating. What she discovers will lead her in an uphill battle to save the lives of the women and the children in the commune. And perhaps her own.

"Savage Messiah" is being marketed as a thriller, and that's not true. This is a dramatic film with little or no suspense in the way that we normally think of it. To be sure, this is a dark and at times disturbing film, but it is a drama. To be more specific, it's a mix between a detective story and a courtroom drama.

The acting is great. Polly Walker, an actress whom I've been a fan of ever since I saw her unforgettable performance in HBO's "Rome," gives another terrific performance. She's like Erin Brockovich, only less abrasive. She knows there's something going on at the commune, and nothing is going to stop her from finding the truth, even if it puts her life in danger. Although this makes her courageous and valiant, it sometimes has devastating consequences.

Her co-star, Luc Picard, is suitable for the film's purposes, but nothing more. He makes Roch into a credible psychopath, and we believe that he's dangerous, and how he can use his charisma to get insecure women to do what he wants, but he fails to be "go the extra mile." He doesn't really arrest our attention, certainly not in the way that Walker does. Still, he makes the movie work.

The other important character is Lise, one of the women from the commune. The actress playing her, Isabelle Blais, is also very good. She has that almost demented belief in her cult that is typical of someone in her position. But through Polly's persistence, she begins to realize how much Roch is hurting her and the people in the commune.

Mario Azzopardi attempts to give the film a dark and menacing atmosphere, but budget constraints clearly hamper his efforts. Still, the film is well-told, although there's nothing special about the way he presents the material. The film moves at solid pace, and all loose ends are tied up by the end.

"Savage Messiah" is not always an easy film to watch, but it's well worth it.
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9/10
Luc Picard at his very best...
BigStick8830 April 2002
This movie touched me very deeply. Without no doubts the best performance from Luc Picard. I really think that he deserves a Jutra for that part; he really was."The Savage Messiah" for me; the kind of man you would be afraid of.

Thanks Luc. Nine out of ten.
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No Horror Movie is scarier than one that is a True Story !!
roly23815 November 2003
There is no words that can adequately define the impact that this movie will have, its the sort of movie that you watch once but will stick with you forever simply due to the fact that such a horror movie could not be imagined if it was not True !!.

This is such a powerful yet darkly disturbing movie that my advice is don't watch it alone or if you are easily upset.

Marvelous performances by Polly Walker as the emotionally invested social worker will have you Loving her, and Luc Picard as the what can only be described as a Perverted and deeply destructive Cult leader. Make this a very rarely seen master piece that deserves to be watched just to applaud the womens strength in facing there Demon.

I hope you get as much from this film as i did, but i wont say enjoy it because you truly shouldn't enjoy this story.

Roly
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10/10
Savage Messiah , great film.
msayles_1980-127 October 2008
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Oh my god!!! I bought a DVD of this film cos it was on special and i am a fan of true crime /cult stories .As most of the big ones ,like ....heavens gate ,Jim Jones ,waco Texas ,etc...happened prior to my leaving high school. I have to say i was horrified with what this man had seemed to be allowed to get away with and decided to look him up and find out some more info.

Now i am grateful the film was quite tame in comparison to some of his antics.....he was an awful man .....who manipulated people he was supposed to love ,like a common trashy spouse who abuses their partner.

This film was a remarkably well filmed ,well directed piece of film and my hat has to go off at Luc Picard for his portrayal of "moses".....he made me get chills in some scenes . In particular the bar scene with the backache...ugh!...i will not divulge further for risk of entering a spoiler]. I urge all true crime /cult researchers like myself to watch this film as it was a rather gritty and well told story of a very sick individual .

And as always ....it left me wondering how some people can let someone con them so blindly and treat them so badly ? How can someone be so desperate to be loved ....to take what he dished out ?? God doesn't condone these acts !
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8/10
Disturbing, based on fact....
MarieGabrielle14 October 2006
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This is a very good film which should get more exposure due to its pertinent subject matter.

Luc Picard as Roch Theriault, a charismatic cult leader who ran a commune in the Canadian wilderness; Polly Walker portrays the social worker who exposes his abusive practices, and having experienced marital abuse herself; at first intuits that something is awry in the commune, which the social service agency must first check out.

When the board of assessors approves Theriault, and vindicates him, she went on record as objecting, but it unfortunately took a lot longer to finally expose his crimes against humanity. Toward the end there is a most disturbing scene as he is drinking with his numerous wives, partying, and suddenly takes a knife and casually grinds it into one of the women's hands, letting her sit there until she passes out from the intense pain. Then he removes it, and tells she she is lucky he can fix it, as he comes toward her with an ax.

Very disturbing and interesting commentary on the psychology of commune life, brainwashing, and how people become involved with cults in the first place. 8/10.
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Good story and great direction
info-59021 August 2003
I happen to know that this film was shot in about 18 days and was extremely low budget. This makes you appreciate even greater the talent of the director who obviously had very few tools to play around with, except for the actors. This is a powerfull film which has been powerfully directed. My marks are 8+ out of 10 and the only reason why I do not give it full marks is because it deserved some more money to be put on screen, and then it would have been so much greater I'm sure.
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8/10
very creepy
watcher201921 June 2020
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Charles Manson was no the only man to run a commune ensnaring people particularly women. This is a very sad and ultimately creepy story of a man who believed himself to be a messiah and so did the women who followed and adored him and some still do to this day. He of course was a horror and should have served the rest of his natural life in prison. The social worker who herself had been a victim of domestic violence( not sure why we have to tag violence with the word domestic as though it is less violent) recognises all the signs and persuades the women to work with her. She is justas brave as his victims . This should be shown to anyone thinking of joining any kind of commune. Well done and brilliant acting.
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8/10
Good Canadian Film
JudyLuft13 April 2003
Canadian films are often lambasted for being arty and full of weird sex. This has been perpetrated from the likes of Atom Egoyan films. Savage Messiah does not stray from this, but it walks the line in an honest way, that is very creepy. The cinematography looks like it was shot for nothing, as it most likely was. The performances, however, almost make you forget that sloppy camera work. Few films can really creep out my media-jaded generation, but this one certainly got through to me. I will not be able to forget it. This film makes up for a lot of Canadian films that have lacked the balls to really send a message. Good on ya.
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Disturbing, but very well done film
Katatonia8 April 2003
This movie is quite disturbing and not exactly pleasant to watch. However, that is not to say this isn't a very good and important film because it is.

There's a reason why Religion produces more pain, conflict and death than anything else in the history of mankind. It is used as an instrument of fear and power, and of course the weaker minded will always have gravitate towards the unknowable, and those who claim exclusive access to it. Not to say Religious concepts have no meaning or good qualities...and if humanity survives well into the future without destroying itself due to conflicting faiths, it will surely look back upon most Religious concepts as nothing more than unnecessary barbarism and tools for a weaker civilization.

Case in point...Savage Messiah. A psychotic and truly evil cult leader who tortures, kills, maims, molests, abuses...all in the name of "Love" and "God". Obviously this man was a complete lunatic, yet quite brilliant in some perverse ways. It's amazing that a few people still are loyal to him despite all the hard evidence against him, and even his ad hoc confession of guilt. Total brainwashing is a very easy process with some people it does seem.

As for the movie itself, it stays quite close to the known public truth about "Roch" and his self-proclaimed entourage. It is well filmed, realistic, and most importantly has some excellent acting performances by Polly Walker and Luc Picard. It's a movie that is important, even though most people won't ever get the chance to view it.
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8/10
good, but disturbing
anaspyder8 February 2003
This movie was well done, if you are able to tolerate a movie that is so disturbing. There is an incredible amount of abuse of women and children, so if you are a person who cannot take this, do not see the movie. If you think you can, I would reccommend it. It isn't a fun movie, although there is a little bit of comic relief in teh beginning. It definately makes you think, especially because it is based on a true story.
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10/10
The 2nd Best Serial Killer Movie
jmcgee-119 January 2004
Ed Gein is still the first,but this is the best so far.In this unheard story about the Manson family.

A small town investigator is destined to find out the truth to this so called friendily Moise.But what she will find out is more than what she bargen for.Not only will she reveal the truth,but also the dangers of his wives and several children.Are you sure you what to see the truth of the man they call Moise.

A breathtaking film and performance by everybody on this film.
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Savage Messiah
andre_linoge-116 March 2008
Although I have yet to view this movie, the comments tell me that it is a "must see". I am a writer in the horror genre, and, in order to write horror I must research for my works. In my personal opinion, Charles Manson, whom I've read about in many books and have seen the movie Helter Skelter, is an altar boy in comparison with many of the serial killers who have come and gone. This Roch Thériault seems like the person that Manson wanted to be but didn't have the cajones to be. Alain Légère aka the Terror of Miramichi is another Canadian serial killer that makes Manson seem like a boy scout. I will have to rent this movie to get a better understanding of Roch Thériault - the man.
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