I can't add a lot to what the other commenter wrote, except I was enthralled at what it took for modern civilized people to remove 100 years of technology and live in the 1870s, as much as was possible to achieve in 2001. I missed the first episode that set up the series, showing the interview process and how the final 4 were picked. I wish the series was available on DVD, because I'd probably buy it, or failing that, it would be nice to see it broadcast again, but it doesn't appear to be much in demand. I thought it was excellently produced, and gave a pretty good picture of what it must have been like being a pioneer.
20 Reviews
Alot More Preparation Would Have Helped!
stuffworthsaving23 August 2020
No one abused any animals on purpose, as claimed by another reviewer, they just did not have the proper training before launching their settler experience. You could tell they were all very upset when the pig had to be put down. They also could not understand that the horses were starving because they were not getting adequate nutrition. They had put up an abundance of hay and were feeding them well, but the hay lacked sustainable nutrients. The men should have trained in how to plow, plant and harvest before their experience began. Hunting techniques and animal husbandry would have helped too. The women should have learned more about preparing and preserving food. All of them would have benefited by some fire tending experience. Luckily for all, Tim had an abundance of experience in building their cabins and creating furniture, so that part went well for them. I think if they didn't have to learn basic survival skills on the job, things would have went better. I mean, the real settlers would have had all the skills that they lacked. It was still an enjoyable series and I thank all involved.
Really Liked This
genman-0160411 January 2016
I really enjoyed this show. I think there were some great efforts to keep it real. I would have given it a 10 rating but I felt that the show didn't really go deep enough into how the food was provided. Having lived on a mountain alone and having to haul my own water etc. I know that hunting and storing meat is a huge part of the experience. A couple of small deer don't get these folks through the Winter. The fact that they didn't butcher the pig and smoke the meat was something that I didn't understand. I guess that first time settlers could have made that mistake though. All in all this was a great show that I enjoyed very much. I have recommended it to others. I watched it on Hulu.
Truly Reality Television
rhyeking22 July 2003
This was the first of History Television's "Quest" series' and so far the best. The next two were "Quest for the Bay" (2002) and "Klondike: The Quest for Gold". The premise was simple: take two couples and see if they can survive for a year on a farm, 1870's-style. Shot on location, cut off from the general public and their families and friends, the four "pioneers" are roughing it in the very literal sense of the term. A lot of emphasis is placed on everything being period appropriate, from clothing to tools to farming and hunting. What grows out of such an absolute commitment to the reality of their situation is a glimpse of what most settlers went through on homesteads such as this. The two couples, the Logies and the Treadways, are likable and offer insights into their situation through video-diaries. This footage is fascinating, as it often indirectly captures the inner struggle each one has being a 21st Century middleclass Canadian situated in the late 19th Century. Tom Anniko's narration (which is present in all the "Quest" series) is perfectly matched to rest of the show, lending an old-time-campfire-story touch to each episode. This is truly a series to be sought out by North American history buffs and even the casual channel-surfing everyman/woman. A further point of interest, if you catch this series on tv, is that an additional "Where are they now..?" episode has been added, which picks up with the Logies and the Treadways and shows their lives after this adventure. Investigate the other "Quest" series too, despite what I say about this being the best, as they are very engaging in their own right.
Great but Tainted by the Treadways
FrostyCoffee16 July 2013
I watch the entire 9 episodes and the disappointing part of the entire series is that the Treadways were not the the first choice, as it was evident after and during the show, they had only the thoughts of how they could make money from the experience. The original couples were matched for how well they thought alike and could work together. The Treadways,throughout the series always seem to be trying to prove themselves, and in many ways brought far to much of their 20 century baggage with them. Alana and Frank Logie from the beginning truly wanted to experience and absorb the adventures and hardships of the pioneers, There was and it was felt in the show the dislike and almost hatred of the Treadways by Alana, and at times even Frank. Alana and Frank faded away, in some ways I am sure that they felt the time wasted and spoiled by the Treadways, it is unfortunate that the original couple chosen had the issue that prevented them from taking part in the show, I am sure it would of been a deeper experience for those that did watch, as it would of for those participating.
I only wish it was me who was on the homestead!
healy-818 August 2006
This was an excellent series and certainly portrayed what it might have been like for my ancestors when they homesteaded in the 1860's. It was amazing how the viewer was not distracted by the fact that there was a camera there a lot of the time because I'm sure this had some impact on the quality of life for those homesteaders. Eventually I forgot all about the eye of the camera and focused on the events of the day. I've watched this series more than twice now and each time I watch it I see more and more details about the day-to-day activities that was missed initially. For instance, I started thinking about what I would have done with a burning pig - like where was the shotgun and why wasn't the pig used for food - as I'm sure that would have been the case if this was the real thing. I'm a vegetarian so it would have been very difficult for me to survive on a diet of meat protein. I bet the horses were glad to get back to modern day care and also the cow. I love that fact that you let the golden retriever join the group. But the dentist was the most scary part of the whole show. That drill bit was huge and the noise from the generator quite disturbing for all. I loved the landscape and the journey out of the camp each week on the wagon and sleigh. I wonder what they're all doing now back in reality of modern times. Looking forward to another homesteading experience - maybe on the west coast this time.
I LOVED Pioneer Quest!
dapartridge15 March 2012
I watched it every time it came on TV on whatever channel. I am really ticked as it isn't out on DVD yet, there seems to be a lot of people that watched the whole series, I keep checking online but no luck yet. I especially loved the beautiful Christmas that they had with the music, the Treadwells sing so beautifully together, I was moved listening to them.
Also when the two women were learning things like quilting and baking bread. I loved the Hutterite people that wanted to join in so badly and their beautiful voices.People did visit one another and would do so more than normally especially when there wasn't a church in the series for Deanna and hubby to go to.I have read enough books on early settlers in Muskoka to know that people visited.I think the writer of this show should plan another year for us to see again in another province.THEN put it out on DVD! p.s The people of the town that was nearby were absolutely delightful and warm.
Also when the two women were learning things like quilting and baking bread. I loved the Hutterite people that wanted to join in so badly and their beautiful voices.People did visit one another and would do so more than normally especially when there wasn't a church in the series for Deanna and hubby to go to.I have read enough books on early settlers in Muskoka to know that people visited.I think the writer of this show should plan another year for us to see again in another province.THEN put it out on DVD! p.s The people of the town that was nearby were absolutely delightful and warm.
Water for animals
pnealwalley31 January 2022
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I have watched this series over and over. I love it! The only part of the series that upset me was how after walking 4 hrs to their destination, the animals were thirsty and they couldn't find the water in the dark. They decided to wait until morning. They should have given the animals a share of their own water. That was the only thing that upset me. I really don't understand why they choose the Treadway either. But they were very nice people who weren't given a fair chance.
Tainted by Tim Treadway
jjsoltis30 October 2018
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I really enjoyed the idea of this experiment but I feel that Tim should have left when he became ill and received modern treatment. That should have disqualified him. I feel that the producers ruined their chance at the authenticity they intended.
It could have been great, without the cheating and disregard for the animals
chrismegan074 February 2015
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My wife and I are big fans of similar PBS programs. We wanted to like this, but, it was impossible. The disregard for animal welfare was incomprehensible. It become evident to everyone in production and the neighboring community that the "pioneers" would never make it through winter, and that would mean the demise of the show. Poor casting, planning and little training, as the other reviewer said, was at fault here. It seems the contingency plan for only having enough footage for 1/2 the year was to cheat and allow the community to bring the "pioneers" food in exchange for "work" and help with labor in exchange for money or "work". This, as Alana said, ruined the entire experience for her, and for us.
Everyone knows pioneer life was hard. The reason we live a modern life today is because of the earlier generations that wanted to make life better and more comfortable for their children. So, yes, we know there are the obvious difficulties of civilization without luxury, but we've seen all that on Survivor, Colony, and other shows. What comes to mind when you think about pioneers though, and what we thought would make this program stand out, is getting a feel for their isolation; the quiet, the solitude, the bond they shared by common need for survival. The dependency only on yourselves and a handful of neighbors IF you were lucky. That's what made them pioneers...they were the FIRST.
Instead, our "pioneers" were constantly talking to the crew as friends, who gave them security and companionship. One of the cast even said they had no worries, and this pioneer life - aside from hard work - was great because of that. In REAL pioneer times there was probably never a minute they weren't worried. For their safety, their children, their crops, having enough shelter, enough to eat. Our "pioneers" were jovial, laughing most of the time and cracking jokes. The women didn't stay in pioneer attire at all times, as they should have. Yes, it was really hard to live in a long skirt and do the work they did, but that's what women did. They also wore bonnets every day, not bandannas, and they never EVER wore gold hoop earrings. Seriously?
Many pioneer families were given land free or almost free to settle it. No matter how they came upon their land, they were large parcels with no one around for miles. We had thought there would be two camera crews and two homesteads, with the couples able to work together and help each other, but not share one homestead, let along one tent! If this wasn't feasible budget-wise, it would have been better to have a large family with several children then, rather than two couples. It was already unrealistic to have two unrelated couples living together. How would the land be divided among their children? Every pioneering family's land was their heritage and it belonged to ONE family.
Also, not having children cast in the show took a lot out of the experience away. For as much as the couples received help at every turn, it would have been perfectly safe, too. Children would have both helped and hindered, and brought so much more reality to the pioneer struggle. Keeping them safe, teaching them, worrying about feeding them, and the toll it would have taken on the women to have even MORE to deal with than they already did. There would have been more cooking, washing, an endless amount of work, and we would have been able to experience, REALLY experience, what it was really like, with a child born nearly every year, likely in poverty, with most of the weight of their care on the mother.
Instead, we got two couples that didn't get along that well. This was totally unrelated to a pioneer experience and just like any traditional reality show like Big Brother; you stay in the game and win money. In reality, it didn't much matter if pioneers didn't like each other. They were happy for the occasional company, the much needed help, exchange of food/gifts, and news.
In the 1870's, which is when the show was set, people weren't getting visits every day (they were busy working their land/hunting), they weren't riding in parades and having their photos taken like celebrities. In giving our "pioneers" constant reminders of reality, all they had to do was endure and wait for their paycheck. They aren't really experiencing anything other than early farming with deplorable living conditions, and we didn't either.
Lastly, pioneers valued their animals as family. Without their animals they'd never survive, and they treated them with care and respect. Allowing the chickens and roosters to be crated for days, fighting; not building proper shelter or taking proper care of the cow and horses; allowing the pregnant sow to catch fire, absolutely unforgivable. The animals didn't sign up for the show and weren't rewarded for being in attendance. They should have been a top priority for the producers at all times.
There should be a warning before the start of each episode, especially for children. There was nudity (the older man's behind); talk about sex (the older couple having sex in the tent with the younger couple inside, etc); graphic slaughter of animals with no camera cut-away as they do in most shows; the pig burning and being shot, etc. These were probably intended to be the "real" moments in the show, but felt more like they were there for shock value and ratings.
And, if it failed, it failed. Better to make it a mini-series instead, than a sham. The second couple to arrive saw a way to manipulate the show, the neighborhood, and the viewers; and the producers allowed it to happen so everyone could make money, choosing instead to rob the viewers of a true experience and their time.
Shameful. Expected better from PBS.
Everyone knows pioneer life was hard. The reason we live a modern life today is because of the earlier generations that wanted to make life better and more comfortable for their children. So, yes, we know there are the obvious difficulties of civilization without luxury, but we've seen all that on Survivor, Colony, and other shows. What comes to mind when you think about pioneers though, and what we thought would make this program stand out, is getting a feel for their isolation; the quiet, the solitude, the bond they shared by common need for survival. The dependency only on yourselves and a handful of neighbors IF you were lucky. That's what made them pioneers...they were the FIRST.
Instead, our "pioneers" were constantly talking to the crew as friends, who gave them security and companionship. One of the cast even said they had no worries, and this pioneer life - aside from hard work - was great because of that. In REAL pioneer times there was probably never a minute they weren't worried. For their safety, their children, their crops, having enough shelter, enough to eat. Our "pioneers" were jovial, laughing most of the time and cracking jokes. The women didn't stay in pioneer attire at all times, as they should have. Yes, it was really hard to live in a long skirt and do the work they did, but that's what women did. They also wore bonnets every day, not bandannas, and they never EVER wore gold hoop earrings. Seriously?
Many pioneer families were given land free or almost free to settle it. No matter how they came upon their land, they were large parcels with no one around for miles. We had thought there would be two camera crews and two homesteads, with the couples able to work together and help each other, but not share one homestead, let along one tent! If this wasn't feasible budget-wise, it would have been better to have a large family with several children then, rather than two couples. It was already unrealistic to have two unrelated couples living together. How would the land be divided among their children? Every pioneering family's land was their heritage and it belonged to ONE family.
Also, not having children cast in the show took a lot out of the experience away. For as much as the couples received help at every turn, it would have been perfectly safe, too. Children would have both helped and hindered, and brought so much more reality to the pioneer struggle. Keeping them safe, teaching them, worrying about feeding them, and the toll it would have taken on the women to have even MORE to deal with than they already did. There would have been more cooking, washing, an endless amount of work, and we would have been able to experience, REALLY experience, what it was really like, with a child born nearly every year, likely in poverty, with most of the weight of their care on the mother.
Instead, we got two couples that didn't get along that well. This was totally unrelated to a pioneer experience and just like any traditional reality show like Big Brother; you stay in the game and win money. In reality, it didn't much matter if pioneers didn't like each other. They were happy for the occasional company, the much needed help, exchange of food/gifts, and news.
In the 1870's, which is when the show was set, people weren't getting visits every day (they were busy working their land/hunting), they weren't riding in parades and having their photos taken like celebrities. In giving our "pioneers" constant reminders of reality, all they had to do was endure and wait for their paycheck. They aren't really experiencing anything other than early farming with deplorable living conditions, and we didn't either.
Lastly, pioneers valued their animals as family. Without their animals they'd never survive, and they treated them with care and respect. Allowing the chickens and roosters to be crated for days, fighting; not building proper shelter or taking proper care of the cow and horses; allowing the pregnant sow to catch fire, absolutely unforgivable. The animals didn't sign up for the show and weren't rewarded for being in attendance. They should have been a top priority for the producers at all times.
There should be a warning before the start of each episode, especially for children. There was nudity (the older man's behind); talk about sex (the older couple having sex in the tent with the younger couple inside, etc); graphic slaughter of animals with no camera cut-away as they do in most shows; the pig burning and being shot, etc. These were probably intended to be the "real" moments in the show, but felt more like they were there for shock value and ratings.
And, if it failed, it failed. Better to make it a mini-series instead, than a sham. The second couple to arrive saw a way to manipulate the show, the neighborhood, and the viewers; and the producers allowed it to happen so everyone could make money, choosing instead to rob the viewers of a true experience and their time.
Shameful. Expected better from PBS.
The Poor Animals.
hogwarts_13-291-85227111 November 2018
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Once I saw the poor rooster have to go through a beheading with an inexperienced person wielding the ax, I felt sick. I then came on here to read the "did you know " section and read what the poor pig ends up having to endure. I know animals get killed and eaten, but the inexperience of these people and their blatant disregard for the poor beings just sickened me. They should've had expert butcher training or something, I don't know, but it ruined the whole show for me.
Not sure I'm gonna make it
bettymk23 November 2019
Horrific Pig Torture
gmrammer23 February 2019
Disappointing with no historical or viewing value
craigwacoex12 November 2014
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The only reason I gave this show 2 stars is for the young couple who toughed it out. This show was obviously an idea that was taken and launched without proper research and preparation. The show doesn't really include pioneers, it is a take on settlers who have so many safety nets that the show is totally unrealistic. First, the people are not prepared for the task at hand...they seem to have no real knowledge of priorities or basic skills, and are given only a small amount of time learning to harness and command horses. Next, they have no real isolation, and are regularly visiting neighbors and walking/riding down paved roads. They have an allotted money supply which is constantly used to take care of issues that real pioneers would have had to handle themselves. The production company didn't supply everything that was needed and had to keep bringing in goods (for instance the pioneers only had summer footwear and had to stay a winter in Canada) Furthermore, the pioneers and producers had no idea how to take care of livestock so the horses has to stand in the harsh winter with no shelter, were not given enough nutrition, and were eventually treated by a vet. The people in this show did an admirable job, but the show itself was too flawed. The day to day work and relationships were even glossed over or didn't develop due to easy outs. I love the idea...prepare better and do it over.
Animal abuse and fakery
amity13823 December 2019
This show is nothing more than 9 episodes of increasing animal abuse. A pregnant sow Gets set on fire!!! Horses are faltering and slowly dying because of mistreatment. Everyone involved in this should be charged with animal cruelty, neglect, and anything else possible under Canadian law. There is no roughing it, as they are freely and consistently given supplies. This is the equivalent of a highschool student film project, only I think a kid would know to be more prepared
Good idea, boring implementation.
DylanMcChillin9 September 2019
As Unreal as any other "reality tv"
steelmagnolia5818 December 2018
The first episode or two made the premise seem quite promising, indeed: Viewers are introduced to the concept, and the selection of participants/contestants is explained. The producers expect to put 2 couples into a primitive situation where they'll build a homestead using the materials, tools, resources, and techniques in common use in the late 19th century.
Things get off to a less than promising start, however, as the first couple chosen is forced out of the competition before it even gets fully under way. The alternates join the production, and seem from the outset to be a poor match for the pair already hard at work and committed to living the pioneer way of life. Let the audience manipulation and manufactured conflict begin.
The foursome are required to share supplies, even sleeping quarters, and appear to have signed on to the project for very different reasons. That is, the younger couple are anxious to learn, grow, and to arrive at a deeper understanding of what life must have been like for those who originally settled the land. The replacements appear to view the quest as a social experiment. They spend a lot of time socializing with neighbors, and even discussing their sex life with the production crew.
The production crew are always present. The couples produce nightly video journal entries, and the 21st century with all its electronics, conveniences, tools and trappings is in evidence 'round the clock. These 4 are doing anything but living in the 1870s.
They don't travel to the village to purchase or barter for supplies. They (and their film crew) travel to a crossroads where they meet others from the crew & collect supplies, necessities, and sundries.
The sound and lighting are much too sharp to ever let the viewer believe we've re-entered an earlier way of life.
Things get off to a less than promising start, however, as the first couple chosen is forced out of the competition before it even gets fully under way. The alternates join the production, and seem from the outset to be a poor match for the pair already hard at work and committed to living the pioneer way of life. Let the audience manipulation and manufactured conflict begin.
The foursome are required to share supplies, even sleeping quarters, and appear to have signed on to the project for very different reasons. That is, the younger couple are anxious to learn, grow, and to arrive at a deeper understanding of what life must have been like for those who originally settled the land. The replacements appear to view the quest as a social experiment. They spend a lot of time socializing with neighbors, and even discussing their sex life with the production crew.
The production crew are always present. The couples produce nightly video journal entries, and the 21st century with all its electronics, conveniences, tools and trappings is in evidence 'round the clock. These 4 are doing anything but living in the 1870s.
They don't travel to the village to purchase or barter for supplies. They (and their film crew) travel to a crossroads where they meet others from the crew & collect supplies, necessities, and sundries.
The sound and lighting are much too sharp to ever let the viewer believe we've re-entered an earlier way of life.
The things wrong with this show are plentiful.
clfuller-042807 August 2022
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Producer claims he planned for 3 years for this production and yet they are given effectively everything they need to build, eat, travel, and the older, supposedly religious couple, are inhumane to God's creatures. She laughs when she fails to kill the rooster and they act as if the preggie pigs torture is just life. At least Alana had regret over being the cause of its demise. I am not done with series so Lord only knows how man more poor creatures will suffer at the hands of these incompetent morons. These people and production company should have had animal cruelty charges brought against them. They do very little, they have immeasurable intervention and it all is literally so far removed from authentic and pioneer living its insane it ever made air. Even in 2000. To call this reality is laughable.
Enjoyable, but not authentic
hms_jellybean2 May 2020
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This was filmed right around the same time as a show with a similar premise in the US, and I was curious as to how the two would compare as well as whether there were any differences in pioneer life in Canada versus the US. That said, this review isn't a comparison of the two, but just observations on this one.
The interactions and overall grit of the two couples, both together and separately, are really nice to watch. Both are committed to sticking it out for the full year, they're fairly upbeat even when things get hard, and even when the two couples have disagreements, they still work together cooperatively and treat each other with respect. The show does not thrive on the drama between the couples or on the relationship issues (of which there aren't many) within the couples. However, the premise of two stranger couples homesteading together seems weird...was that a thing in Canada in the 1870's?
However, the show lacks authenticity. The couples are "roughing it" in the fact that they live in the middle of nowhere without modern conveniences, but they receive regular supplies every two weeks from the film crew, including comforts (like snow boots) that may or may not have been available for real pioneers. It undercuts the idea of having to survive on their wits and their skills when there's no real stakes to be had. They're also working with the latest, up-to-date technology for the 1870's, including the "latest" in plows, tillers, wood stoves, shovels, etc, which seems unlikely for a homesteader in rural Manitoba. They also regularly trade work for supplies with neighbors and the neighbors do the bulk of the work at times around the homestead just to gain experience of what it was like back then; while working with neighbors would be authentic, having droves of them come over to do work is not. This is given lipservice in the series, but is never addressed to the point where it would be close to period authentic.
And then there's the treatment of the animals, which is...problematic. I'm not sure whether the homesteaders weren't trained enough or what, but it's concerning. It rains for the first several weeks after the couples arrive, and a shelter is not built for any of the animals until much later. The chickens are kept in their cage for weeks, and the horses and cow are left to hang out in standing water. The emphasis is put on the growing season, and the couples dedicate several days to things like plowing and planting before even thinking about building shelters for their animals. While complaining the chickens won't lay. They build smudge fires to get rid of the bugs but don't bother to make sure they're put out properly in dry weather, which causes the barn to catch fire and their pregnant sow to die a horrific death. The horses are kept in a simple lean-to in deep snow and temperatures that drop to -45 degrees F, which the homesteaders are told by locals is "fine." Yet the horses begin to drop weight from the energy it takes to stay warm coupled with the lack of nutrition in their feed; nobody notices until the horses' ribs are showing, all the while using them to pull a sleigh that took four men to move. The horses were eventually treated and recovered, but the lack of concern for their wellbeing is appalling.
All in all, a fairly enjoyable watch. If you like shows like this for their authenticity, this is not the show for you. If you watched the American series and didn't like the drama, you'll like this one.
The interactions and overall grit of the two couples, both together and separately, are really nice to watch. Both are committed to sticking it out for the full year, they're fairly upbeat even when things get hard, and even when the two couples have disagreements, they still work together cooperatively and treat each other with respect. The show does not thrive on the drama between the couples or on the relationship issues (of which there aren't many) within the couples. However, the premise of two stranger couples homesteading together seems weird...was that a thing in Canada in the 1870's?
However, the show lacks authenticity. The couples are "roughing it" in the fact that they live in the middle of nowhere without modern conveniences, but they receive regular supplies every two weeks from the film crew, including comforts (like snow boots) that may or may not have been available for real pioneers. It undercuts the idea of having to survive on their wits and their skills when there's no real stakes to be had. They're also working with the latest, up-to-date technology for the 1870's, including the "latest" in plows, tillers, wood stoves, shovels, etc, which seems unlikely for a homesteader in rural Manitoba. They also regularly trade work for supplies with neighbors and the neighbors do the bulk of the work at times around the homestead just to gain experience of what it was like back then; while working with neighbors would be authentic, having droves of them come over to do work is not. This is given lipservice in the series, but is never addressed to the point where it would be close to period authentic.
And then there's the treatment of the animals, which is...problematic. I'm not sure whether the homesteaders weren't trained enough or what, but it's concerning. It rains for the first several weeks after the couples arrive, and a shelter is not built for any of the animals until much later. The chickens are kept in their cage for weeks, and the horses and cow are left to hang out in standing water. The emphasis is put on the growing season, and the couples dedicate several days to things like plowing and planting before even thinking about building shelters for their animals. While complaining the chickens won't lay. They build smudge fires to get rid of the bugs but don't bother to make sure they're put out properly in dry weather, which causes the barn to catch fire and their pregnant sow to die a horrific death. The horses are kept in a simple lean-to in deep snow and temperatures that drop to -45 degrees F, which the homesteaders are told by locals is "fine." Yet the horses begin to drop weight from the energy it takes to stay warm coupled with the lack of nutrition in their feed; nobody notices until the horses' ribs are showing, all the while using them to pull a sleigh that took four men to move. The horses were eventually treated and recovered, but the lack of concern for their wellbeing is appalling.
All in all, a fairly enjoyable watch. If you like shows like this for their authenticity, this is not the show for you. If you watched the American series and didn't like the drama, you'll like this one.
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