17 reviews
I'm currently studying with an exchange guy. He's from Germany and is learning many different languages. A very smart boy and fun to be with; and although he speaks to us in our language, it would be interesting to listen to him speaking German. Watching this film, I realized how that would be. Besides the German language itself, he would probably speak the same way; the expressions, and special words, because this film's characters live in the teenage world. The piece is very brave, and I don't know what the reception was at its country in its time, but director Maria Von Heland is trying to declare: "These things happen
And they happen to teenagers".
In this very real reality, kids go to school and have best friends, hang out with boyfriends, form rock bands, carry on a sexual life and so on. Von Heland's screenplay covers all of these aspects three dimensionally, because it expands them with a lot of knowledge. Best friends are what Kati (newcomer at the time Anna Maria Muhe) and Steffi (Karoline Herfurth). The first has just ended a relationship and the last has a boyfriend named Carlos (David Winter), who is in a rock band. The sexual life of teenage girls isn't something understood, it comes by the person each one is. The movie deals with this letting us know that Steffi and Carlos have known each other for a long time but they still haven't made love.
On the other side, Kati is always looking for chances; going out late, meeting older guys and carrying condoms inside her jeans. All this we learn when we are taken inside her house, where a ruined family clearly lives. In one scene, while Kati's family is having dinner, Von Heland shows with a still camera the faces of each of the members, and it becomes obvious; it's a tense and dysfunctional life. We later experience a father-daughter talk about some discoveries, and Kati and her younger sister praying to God while we listen to their parents' screams. They say: "God, I know you're very busy and all that, but please make our parents divorce soon". There's another strong scene near the ending, where Kati prays by herself.
Strong is about everything in this movie. Steffi also has his family issues, we find out. We know the character and we believe she'd resolve them maturely, but when Tessa (Josefine Domes) comes into the picture, and Steffi resolves, we realize that Kati is probably more mature than her and therefore how contradictory life is. Steffi has her motives for what she does with Tessa and everything she does later, so does Kati when she tells her mom: "This is who I am Look at me!". So does Tessa's mom when she acts, and Kati's mom when she gets mad, and Kati's father when he advices her, and everybody else. One notable thing about the feature is that is difficult to take sides; you understand everyone.
Another very remarkable detail is the use of music, all of it in English, representing each moment of the story with lyrics and songs according to the music people of the movie characters' age listen. Everything that happens to the two friends is something that could occur to any friendship any day. Because when two people are friends since little, it is something given (in my case with my ever best friend Matías), and when they fight they always make up; it is the tough bond that unites them. But the truth is that sometimes there are some much stronger things that test that bond; and that is the time to find out if the feelings are real. What Kati and Steffi live is way too strong for their age, but it is up to them to work it out, while is up to the movie to show us how powerful friendship truly is.
In this very real reality, kids go to school and have best friends, hang out with boyfriends, form rock bands, carry on a sexual life and so on. Von Heland's screenplay covers all of these aspects three dimensionally, because it expands them with a lot of knowledge. Best friends are what Kati (newcomer at the time Anna Maria Muhe) and Steffi (Karoline Herfurth). The first has just ended a relationship and the last has a boyfriend named Carlos (David Winter), who is in a rock band. The sexual life of teenage girls isn't something understood, it comes by the person each one is. The movie deals with this letting us know that Steffi and Carlos have known each other for a long time but they still haven't made love.
On the other side, Kati is always looking for chances; going out late, meeting older guys and carrying condoms inside her jeans. All this we learn when we are taken inside her house, where a ruined family clearly lives. In one scene, while Kati's family is having dinner, Von Heland shows with a still camera the faces of each of the members, and it becomes obvious; it's a tense and dysfunctional life. We later experience a father-daughter talk about some discoveries, and Kati and her younger sister praying to God while we listen to their parents' screams. They say: "God, I know you're very busy and all that, but please make our parents divorce soon". There's another strong scene near the ending, where Kati prays by herself.
Strong is about everything in this movie. Steffi also has his family issues, we find out. We know the character and we believe she'd resolve them maturely, but when Tessa (Josefine Domes) comes into the picture, and Steffi resolves, we realize that Kati is probably more mature than her and therefore how contradictory life is. Steffi has her motives for what she does with Tessa and everything she does later, so does Kati when she tells her mom: "This is who I am Look at me!". So does Tessa's mom when she acts, and Kati's mom when she gets mad, and Kati's father when he advices her, and everybody else. One notable thing about the feature is that is difficult to take sides; you understand everyone.
Another very remarkable detail is the use of music, all of it in English, representing each moment of the story with lyrics and songs according to the music people of the movie characters' age listen. Everything that happens to the two friends is something that could occur to any friendship any day. Because when two people are friends since little, it is something given (in my case with my ever best friend Matías), and when they fight they always make up; it is the tough bond that unites them. But the truth is that sometimes there are some much stronger things that test that bond; and that is the time to find out if the feelings are real. What Kati and Steffi live is way too strong for their age, but it is up to them to work it out, while is up to the movie to show us how powerful friendship truly is.
- jpschapira
- Sep 25, 2005
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In most movies about teens - at least those made in America - we usually don't have to spend a great deal of time trying to figure out who are the "good" people and who are the "bad." The filmmakers are usually kind enough to do that for us. This is obviously not the case in Europe, however, for in the German film "Big Girls Don't Cry," the adolescents we meet are anything but morally and ethically clear-cut.
The two best friends, Steffi and Kati, seem like fairly typical middle class teens - somewhat mischievous, obsessed with boys, and faintly rebellious against the authority figures of the adult world. They also drink, party and experiment with drugs - nothing too radical for teens anywhere in the world today. However, one night Steffi inadvertently discovers that her father is having an affair. At this point, all hell breaks loose, as Steffi decides to take her anger and revenge out on the innocent daughter of her father's mistress, an aspiring singer named Tessa. Steffi sends Tessa to a potentially dangerous local pornographer, leading her to believe that he is actually a record producer searching for new talent. This single action leads to a series of cascading events that winds up, in some way or other, adversely affecting most of the people in Steffi's life.
Steffi and Kati are both fully realized and complex characters who refuse to be pigeonholed at any given point in the movie. Steffi begins her crusade of vengeance convinced that she is acting strictly out of righteous anger, especially since, in her mind at least, her actions are as much a way of protecting her mother's honor as her own. And if innocent victims have to be sacrificed along the way, well, so be it. What Steffi doesn't realize, until it's too late, is that we can't always control how the human dramas we set in motion will ultimately act themselves out. Kati, who is far more rebellious and far more promiscuous than Steffi, finds herself torn between her loyalty as a friend and doing what she knows is right. It is Kati, the less self-assured one, who, ultimately, becomes the moral beacon that Steffi will be forced to follow if she hopes to survive in the world.
Anna Maria Muhe as Kati and Karoline Herfurth as Steffi give brilliant, well-rounded performances, as does the rest of the talented cast. The acting, writing and directing are so good and true, in fact, that the movie is able to override the occasional implausibility or touch of melodrama that wanders into the storyline.
I just wish American movies about teenagers were this thought-provoking, interesting and impressive.
The two best friends, Steffi and Kati, seem like fairly typical middle class teens - somewhat mischievous, obsessed with boys, and faintly rebellious against the authority figures of the adult world. They also drink, party and experiment with drugs - nothing too radical for teens anywhere in the world today. However, one night Steffi inadvertently discovers that her father is having an affair. At this point, all hell breaks loose, as Steffi decides to take her anger and revenge out on the innocent daughter of her father's mistress, an aspiring singer named Tessa. Steffi sends Tessa to a potentially dangerous local pornographer, leading her to believe that he is actually a record producer searching for new talent. This single action leads to a series of cascading events that winds up, in some way or other, adversely affecting most of the people in Steffi's life.
Steffi and Kati are both fully realized and complex characters who refuse to be pigeonholed at any given point in the movie. Steffi begins her crusade of vengeance convinced that she is acting strictly out of righteous anger, especially since, in her mind at least, her actions are as much a way of protecting her mother's honor as her own. And if innocent victims have to be sacrificed along the way, well, so be it. What Steffi doesn't realize, until it's too late, is that we can't always control how the human dramas we set in motion will ultimately act themselves out. Kati, who is far more rebellious and far more promiscuous than Steffi, finds herself torn between her loyalty as a friend and doing what she knows is right. It is Kati, the less self-assured one, who, ultimately, becomes the moral beacon that Steffi will be forced to follow if she hopes to survive in the world.
Anna Maria Muhe as Kati and Karoline Herfurth as Steffi give brilliant, well-rounded performances, as does the rest of the talented cast. The acting, writing and directing are so good and true, in fact, that the movie is able to override the occasional implausibility or touch of melodrama that wanders into the storyline.
I just wish American movies about teenagers were this thought-provoking, interesting and impressive.
- Movie-ManDan
- Jan 11, 2015
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I don't think that this is a movie just for girls. I'm a guy and I thought it was brilliant. I think it's a movie just for teenagers and the effect that parents can have on their kids. I mean, Steffi goes crazy when she finds out about her dad's affair and wants to ruin other people's lives, and I think it was portrayed beautifully on-screen. I think that people should take a closer look at how they can take care of their kids.
I also think it's just a beautiful movie of friendship and how far you'll go to help a friend, without losing yourself along the way, as in Kati's situation. I thought it was just a beautiful movie, and I love watching this on TV. I've seen it about 8 times now and still continue to watch it every now and then. By the way, this is the first foreign movie I've seen fully. Sub-titles usually bother me, but they didn't with this one.
I also think it's just a beautiful movie of friendship and how far you'll go to help a friend, without losing yourself along the way, as in Kati's situation. I thought it was just a beautiful movie, and I love watching this on TV. I've seen it about 8 times now and still continue to watch it every now and then. By the way, this is the first foreign movie I've seen fully. Sub-titles usually bother me, but they didn't with this one.
- AcerbicTriangle987
- Nov 20, 2003
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- Lady_Targaryen
- Mar 28, 2006
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One of those films I advise parents to watch when their daughters become this special age. Although I absolutely adore this film, I think it could have been just as good with a little less profanity and a little more about the implications and results of actions. Especially drug use is somehow displayed a little too carelessly. Anna Mariah Mühe is a gorgeous girl with the most beautiful eyes ever to be seen on a cinema screen. Just for that the film is absolutely watchable.
All together a really good film with many highs, but not advisable for an afternoon with the family.
All together a really good film with many highs, but not advisable for an afternoon with the family.
Kati (Anna Maria Mühe) and Steffi (Karoline Herfurth) are best friends since their childhood. They spend most of their time together, in school and in their leisure time. Kati has a quite hysterical mother, while the parents of Steffi seems to be in permanent love. When Steffi finds her father Hans (Stefan Kurt) with his lover in a night-club, her world turns upside-down. Steffi plots an evil revenge against Tessa (Josefine Domes), the daughter of Hans' lover. Her plan brings serious and tragic consequences to her family, her friends and herself. "Große Mädchen Weinen Nicht" is a powerful drama about reaching adulthood. The story begins like a common teen movie, but later it shifts in a very intense, dramatic and credible drama. The story does not spare any character, showing the consequences of the maleficent action of Steffi not only to her, but to her friends and parents, teaching a lesson without being moralist specially to the target viewers - the teenagers. The soundtrack is also magnificent and I feel sorrow when I see only 287 votes in IMDb, since this movie deserves to be discovered by fans of a drama about contemporary teenagers. This is the first movie I have watched with Anna Maria Mühe, who is amazingly beautiful, and her supportive character is very nice. Yesterday I saw another movie ("Mädchen, Mädchen") of the gorgeous and sexy German actress called Karoline Herfurth and I truly believe she will become very famous worldwide in a near future. My vote is nine.
Title (Brazil): "Meninas Não Choram" ("Girls Do not Cry")
Title (Brazil): "Meninas Não Choram" ("Girls Do not Cry")
- claudio_carvalho
- Apr 23, 2005
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"Big Girls Don't Cry" is a little German gem about two affluent late teen females - best friends since childhood - whose bond of love for each other is tested when life experiences force them to cope with serious matters of character and integrity. The film is a stylish shoot, imbued with the ever present aura of a female auteur, which offers some superb performances by a young cast, especially tyro Mühe, as it wends it way through a somewhat thin story with realism, balance, proportion, and a distinct absence of that most prevalent of cliches - teen angst. A huge kudo to von Heland for this engrossing little foreign subtitled film which will play best with females, especially teens and young adults into foreign flicks. (B)
Note - If you like this film, you might want to give "Bandits 1997" a try.
Note - If you like this film, you might want to give "Bandits 1997" a try.
I'm out of words after watching this film.. It's totally fascinating! The acting by the young actresses is flawless, and pretty much everyone else is also doing a good job throughout the movie. The storyline is also quite harsh but intriguing. It has the features of a coming of age movie, and what not. Someone has said "underrated masterpiece" about this movie before.Well, I couldn't agree more.. Although I'm a fan of German movies in general, I have to say this one was special for sure. Especially the outstanding performance of youngster Anna Maria Mühe adds delight to the film. The only minor flaw about the flick in general is that it should have been some 12-15 minutes longer instead of pacing up through the last moments. Other than that, it meets my criteria of perfection. Go see it NOW!
9/10
9/10
- Exiled_Archangel
- Jan 15, 2004
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- SnoopyStyle
- Aug 24, 2015
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So why was this movie not a big bang ? It should have been. I have no clue what was missing, it was a good story, great acting, everything. Maybe it was the title. But even that one wasn't that bad, surprising for a german movie. Nevertheless it soon left the cinema again, and nobody ever talked about it.
This is a movie about girls, and for girls. Its much more serious than other attempts for making such a movie, so no dirt jokes like, for example, in american pie 2. Instead it is about the problems and wishes of modern girls, such as love, faith, school, freedom, security and rape.
Maybe that was the reason for its failure. A movie about girls, how uncool ? I don't know, but I can highly recommend this one to anyone interested.
This is a movie about girls, and for girls. Its much more serious than other attempts for making such a movie, so no dirt jokes like, for example, in american pie 2. Instead it is about the problems and wishes of modern girls, such as love, faith, school, freedom, security and rape.
Maybe that was the reason for its failure. A movie about girls, how uncool ? I don't know, but I can highly recommend this one to anyone interested.
- Horst_In_Translation
- Feb 17, 2017
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Germany's answer to 'Thirteen' poses many questions about teenage life. Amongst them the strength of friendship and loyalty, the longing for acceptance and stability and the desire to 'beat' rather than 'be beaten'. Where "Große Mädchen weinen nicht" is poles apart from it's teen-angst predocessors is in the acting, charecters particularly it's secondary players and use of narrative.
Kati and Steffi, the film's lead charecters aren't burdened with mass dysfuctionality or traumas, they are just two typical teens driven only by their on-going friendship. Things change however when Steffi witnesses her father with another woman. What becomes petty revenge, envelopes into tragedy beyond Steffi's comprehension and the loyal Kati having to decide whether she wants to play a part in it all. With Steffi in denial and Kati in guilt and the film's intergral 'revenge' story resolved almost halfway in, the remainder of the film (and it's real heart) is devoted to the complexities of teen-emotion. Steffi's cold controlling aloofness hides her painful insecurities and Kati's delicate need for love becomes secondary to her sense of right and wrong.
Maria Von Helland consciously mentions the girls sex-lifes, even potential drug-use but treats it matter-of-factly. She turns a seemingly complex tale into an entertaining strikingly simple one of teenage friendship. In her two leads, Anna Maria Mulhe and Karoline Herfurth, we have two remarkably gifted actreses, able to convey more with looks and well judged dialoge then scene stealing quirky performances. Josefine Domes and Jennifer Ulrich fare well also, conveying alot over limited screentime, as this is after all primarily about Steffi and Kati. Because of this, male and adult charecters suffer a little, but not in an obvious way and adding complex male personalities into the mix may just have leant the film's delicate balence towards moralising.
Both unique and not particularly European (the film's soundtrack consists of English sung pop), this is aguably every bit as strong as teen friendship classics like 'Stand By Me' and 'The Breakfast Club', more so for it's lack of sensationialism.
Incredibly watchable, instantly appreciated, this is a film to seek out, as well made gems like this on such a well-trod subject can only become few and far between....
Kati and Steffi, the film's lead charecters aren't burdened with mass dysfuctionality or traumas, they are just two typical teens driven only by their on-going friendship. Things change however when Steffi witnesses her father with another woman. What becomes petty revenge, envelopes into tragedy beyond Steffi's comprehension and the loyal Kati having to decide whether she wants to play a part in it all. With Steffi in denial and Kati in guilt and the film's intergral 'revenge' story resolved almost halfway in, the remainder of the film (and it's real heart) is devoted to the complexities of teen-emotion. Steffi's cold controlling aloofness hides her painful insecurities and Kati's delicate need for love becomes secondary to her sense of right and wrong.
Maria Von Helland consciously mentions the girls sex-lifes, even potential drug-use but treats it matter-of-factly. She turns a seemingly complex tale into an entertaining strikingly simple one of teenage friendship. In her two leads, Anna Maria Mulhe and Karoline Herfurth, we have two remarkably gifted actreses, able to convey more with looks and well judged dialoge then scene stealing quirky performances. Josefine Domes and Jennifer Ulrich fare well also, conveying alot over limited screentime, as this is after all primarily about Steffi and Kati. Because of this, male and adult charecters suffer a little, but not in an obvious way and adding complex male personalities into the mix may just have leant the film's delicate balence towards moralising.
Both unique and not particularly European (the film's soundtrack consists of English sung pop), this is aguably every bit as strong as teen friendship classics like 'Stand By Me' and 'The Breakfast Club', more so for it's lack of sensationialism.
Incredibly watchable, instantly appreciated, this is a film to seek out, as well made gems like this on such a well-trod subject can only become few and far between....
- marxthedude
- Feb 3, 2004
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I agree 100 % with the previous poster that this IS a masterpiece. So underrated it's a crime! Wow! I am seriously shocked how low rated this amazing film is! This is one of the best films i've seen. Just like the tacky shallow big money makers in the music eg Lady Gaga and Rhianna and all that vile rap all the shallow tacky flashy films get the highest ratings no matter what the content, script acting etc. Says a lot about humans and current society.
I'm not going to say much about the content, ill leave you to watch it. I'm sure you won't be disappointed. This film is about friendship and how deep it can run. It's also about broken families and the effects it can have on children and how they get taken advantage off by predators who sense there vulnerabilities. I love the friendship theme, the story plays out how deep friendships can run ad also how they start to disintegrate slowly when you're hurting, but take it out on the people closet to you.. I'm sure this will touch a chord with most of us. I'm a guy from Leeds, UK and this film is in German. But i totally felt it and it made me cry.The acting was that believable and genuine.
A beautiful lush soundtrack accompanies this film.
I'm not going to say much about the content, ill leave you to watch it. I'm sure you won't be disappointed. This film is about friendship and how deep it can run. It's also about broken families and the effects it can have on children and how they get taken advantage off by predators who sense there vulnerabilities. I love the friendship theme, the story plays out how deep friendships can run ad also how they start to disintegrate slowly when you're hurting, but take it out on the people closet to you.. I'm sure this will touch a chord with most of us. I'm a guy from Leeds, UK and this film is in German. But i totally felt it and it made me cry.The acting was that believable and genuine.
A beautiful lush soundtrack accompanies this film.
- mikewilson762-441-871365
- Nov 2, 2012
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What a superb film. I hadn't heard of it until a director friend drew my attention to it. Though it might be regarded by some as a movie for young people, it is much more than that. There can hardly be a parent who doesn't identify with at least some of the problems so accurately, touchingly and acutely portrayed. I was much impressed by the way the director used simple, often brief, scenes to powerfully indicate a shift in character. In addition to the portrayal of a wonderful universal story, it also told us much about the social and economic problems of Germany following the re-unification.
A real shame the film hasn't had a wider audience. See it if you can.
A real shame the film hasn't had a wider audience. See it if you can.
- awillawill
- Oct 1, 2005
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I LOVED this movie SO much. it's my favorite movie and it has been for about a year now. I live in Arizona, and I'm not even German and I speak English. It's still so good even just with subtitles. Carlos is so hot and the plot of the movie really gets me. I just wish there was a soundtrack available because I also love the music in it. (bombs bombs away-the sounds) I think it really has something to do with every teenage girl at that age. I'm in the same general age as them and I deal with the same problems. I just really like the movie, I love the whole general vibe of it and I love the music! David WINTER- PLEASE BE IN American MOVIES. I also love the characters of Kati and Steffi. They're much like me and my friend, and we watched it together and she loves it too. MUST see, good to own. ;-)
This is a German teen movie about two friends (Ana Marie Muhe and Karoline Herfurth)navigating their high school years. When one of the girls finds out her father is having an affair, she vindictively tries to set her father's lover's daughter up with a sleazy photographer, who may or not be responsible for the mysterious disappearance of another girl.
In America these kinds of films are usually pretty juvenile, and pretty much unwatchable to anyone over 25, OR they are overly melodramatic and alarmist ("Kids", "Thirteen). This movie generally avoids either of these extremes. Muhe didn't do much after this, but I'm surprised Herfurth didn't do more (she does have a small part In Brian DePalma's 2013 movie "Passion"). She is really good here as a vindictive "mean girl" who manages to be almost downright evil without ever being entirely unsympathetic (She's also definitely not hard to look at, even here when she was only about 18). This is a little more racy than most American teen movies, but no one is going to confuse it with the infamous, exploitative German "schoolgirl-reports" either (although some aspects of the plot seem to be right out of one).
I guess if you're going to watch a teen movie in the first place, this is a pretty recommendable one
In America these kinds of films are usually pretty juvenile, and pretty much unwatchable to anyone over 25, OR they are overly melodramatic and alarmist ("Kids", "Thirteen). This movie generally avoids either of these extremes. Muhe didn't do much after this, but I'm surprised Herfurth didn't do more (she does have a small part In Brian DePalma's 2013 movie "Passion"). She is really good here as a vindictive "mean girl" who manages to be almost downright evil without ever being entirely unsympathetic (She's also definitely not hard to look at, even here when she was only about 18). This is a little more racy than most American teen movies, but no one is going to confuse it with the infamous, exploitative German "schoolgirl-reports" either (although some aspects of the plot seem to be right out of one).
I guess if you're going to watch a teen movie in the first place, this is a pretty recommendable one