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5/10
Great action sequences butt up against far less sure-footed storytelling
I_Ailurophile1 April 2024
Sometimes viewers can only take films at face value; elsewhere it behooves us to consider the context of a production, or the circumstances that resulted in something being made as it was, and granting some allowances on that basis. In this case of this flick we must take the latter approach and acknowledge that stereotypically lousy English dubbing isn't specifically the fault of the filmmaker (it's deeply unfortunately that sometimes these are the only versions that seem to be available for a given movie), and it's also possible that an international feature was mangled in re-editing, and in translation of dialogue and exposition, in the process of preparing it for distribution abroad. Only a direct comparison between the international English dub and the original Mandarin release could definitively answer these questions, and that's beyond my capability. What I do know is that 'Shaolin iron claws,' or 'Hawk's fist,' as it exists in the English-speaking world, is all too questionable in some key ways.

It's not that there's no entertainment to be had here. I discern firm foundations in the visuals and direction for a splendid Hong Kong martial arts picture. If it's action you want, it's action you'll get, and the stunts and fight choreography in and of themselves are pretty swell; just as much to the point, the editing and camerawork don't chop up the action as we sometimes see elsewhere. While there's no mistaking that this is not a work from the premier kung fu film houses of Golden Harvest or The Shaw Brothers, there's nevertheless much to appreciate in the sets, costume design, and filming locations, just as we would expect of kindred titles. My concern is with the writing, and whether the blame belongs on the shoulders of the original release or of those who assembled the English dub, the result as it presents is the same. As I see it 'Shaolin iron claws' is rather sloppy about clearly developing its plot, and the story has trouble putting itself together; I recognize commendable elements, but the form they take is kind of dubious. The dialogue is awful, the characterizations are highly questionable, the scene writing is far less than sure-footed, and basic connectivity between beats and ideas isn't exactly rock solid. Attempted humor falls flat; the more clever the narrative tries to be, especially in the back end, the less convincing it is.

What quite comes across is that the roots are sturdy, but one way or another the level of skill, intelligence, and care by which the film subsequently took shape leaves much to be desired. Maybe director Shih-Hao Ko is most responsible; maybe screenwriter Sung-Po Liu is; maybe we should instead be looking at Shih-Hao's co-producers Wu Tung Ku and Hui Fen Ping, or still others involved in some capacity. Were the material handled more mindfully this would surely be a respected or even revered Hong Kong classic; as it stands the value it does boast, and the potential it had for still more, is dragged down by unwieldy storytelling. I don't dislike the feature, and to some degree I wonder if I'm not being too harsh; the action sequences are such a great time that just on their account I almost want to hold the whole in higher esteem than I do. Still, the fact is that the fun that it has to offer is the sort we can also get elsewhere, without the significant flaws that make the viewing experience somewhat tiring. I'm glad for those who get more out of 'Shaolin iron claws' than I do; as far as I'm concerned this is a movie that's best enjoyed on a very lazy day, when you're not particularly in the mood for anything else. You could do much worse, yet for everything else we could be watching, there's not a lot of reason to seek this out in the first place.
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7/10
Above average fights excuse plot and character weaknesses
ckormos11 March 2016
This movie is also titled "Shaolin Iron Fist". The movie opens to a narrator explaining the warlord problem and Don Wong working out. Chan Sing is introduced as the baddest warlord. He uses his iron claw or hawk's fist (his hand is blackened and immune to fire) to kill a man and demonstrate his badness. Don Wong is a police man. He goes about town making sure law and order is upheld and uses his kung fu to that end. There are two idiots that almost ruin the movie. They are the brothers of the hot kung fu chick and Don's love interest. They can't stay out of trouble and do nothing to gain any sympathy from the audience. A valuable letter is revealed and Chan Sing orders that everyone who saw the letter must be killed. The two villains of the movie, Chan Sing and Chang Yi, are conspicuously absent for most of the movie. Nevertheless the underlings provide excellent fights, each fight uniquely choreographed and executed with good focus and power. I rate the movie above average for the year and genre based on the fights and despite the already mentioned weaknesses of plot and character. I recommend it for any fan of martial arts movies from the golden age 1967-1984.
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3/10
Shaolin Iron Claws (aka Hawk's Fist)
jddog13028 February 2015
Warning: Spoilers
At the beginning of the republic, an ex-Ching lord Chin Su (Chen Sing) forces a group of ex-Ching ministers to sign a declaration for the re-establishment of the Ching dynasty. This declaration falls into the hands of a police chief (Wong Tao) and then.....

Chief Commander Hu (Don Wong) and Simon Lee (Li Yi-Min) team up together to battle with (Long White Hair) "Silver Fox" (Chang Yi) when they learn of a plot to overthrow the Ming government.

I'm sure that some would give this a low rating and others a higher rating. Being in my 50's I would be among the people that would rate a little better being that I really enjoyed watching this stuff back in the 70's and 80's. Although being kinda cheesy but also a "blast from the past", I'll split this down the middle and give it a 5/10..
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10/10
Great Movie
sarasbubby2 January 2021
Really enjoyed this movie had a great plot and great fight scenes with exciting characters. Reccomend this movie to all classic kung fu fans a big thumbs up to the people who made this movie possible I've watched it several times and will watch it several more times before it's all said and done...
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