Grey Knight (1993) User Reviews

There's no rest for the wicked.

[lost-in-limbo · 5/10 · 2 December 2006]

In the 1860s, during the American civil war. A Confederate regiment is wiped out in a brutal massacre, but their bodies are possessed by voodoo forces from Africa that were harbouring in an underground cave. They form an army of vampire-like zombies that terrorises not just the north, but also the south. Investigating this matter happens to be Capt. John Harling. He and along with some men (and a mute slave) are appointed to go out and take care of the problem. Unknowingly to them they will face something greater than they would believe.

Reading about this particular shoot, I can see that the post-production was quite a handful for director George Hickenlooper and the film that was released was drastically cut by the producers. All of that material turns up in the director's cut labelled, "Grey Knight". This just happens to be the title of the VHS I just recently bought. Although, I've seen "The Killing Box" on TV a couple times, and honestly I couldn't tell the difference between the two. So, I guess I unluckily picked up the original release, which used one of its many titles. That figures!

Director Hickenlooper would be best known for his riveting documentary called Heart of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse, which looked at the making of "Apocalypse Now". On this occasion the results aren't so rosy, but here he still spins up an admirable little supernatural civil war offering. There are some inspired touches to "Apocalypse Now" and even Sam Peckinpah's minor western classic "Major Dundee". Despite the stimulating and rather interesting premise with its crackling voice-over by Pasdar. It just seems to promise more than it actually does hand out and it can get rather blurry in its intentions. A lack of depth and unbelievable reasoning can also add to the real emptiness created. The idea of this African folklore and the flashback imagery set in this unique setting are strikingly filtered into the film, but it can get contrived. Maybe all of this would be better expressed in the director's cut?

The grafting direction isn't much better, with a real lack of flair; guidance and the incompetently staged battle scenes come across like hokey enactments. It really does buckle under its limited budget and comes across like a made for TV feature. Although, Hickenlooper has he moments like effectively demonstrating solid period details and an underling eeriness surrounding the unusual situation. Professionally crisp and showman-like photography makes it seem larger than it is and gives it a bit more scope. Probably too much for this type of production.

Now just looking at the names involved, you'd think well this is going to be great. Not so. Most of the big names didn't get up too much. Martin Sheen and Billy Bob Thornton are nothing more than background features. Ray Wise gracefully hams it up as the crabby Col. George Thalman. Adrian Pasdar is capably sound as Capt. John Harling and his co-star Corbin Bernsen is equally so as Col. Nehemiah Strayn. Cynda Williams is fine as the mysterious mute slave Rebecca. Turning up also are David Arquette, Alexis Arquette and a blink and you'll miss role from Matt LeBlanc.

"Grey Knights" is a very flawed feature that's not very exciting and probably bites off more then it could chew. One thing that bothers me though, was that it seems to lose something each time I watch it. However, the context and atmosphere is what will keep you watching this real quirky opus.

An interesting war/horror hybrid which ultimately fails to hit the mark

[arkanis50 · 5/10 · 5 January 2005]

Set during the American civil war, The Killing Box tells the tale of a Union expedition sent to discover the fate of a group of Union soldiers slaughtered in bizarre circumstances. As the film progresses, it becomes evident that this slaughter isn't just an isolated incident, but rather a series of mass murders of both Union and Confederate soldiers. To complicate the expedition, the Union soldiers have to rely on the aid of a captured Union defector to help investigate the incident. Who or what can be responsible for these grizzly deaths?

The Killing Box takes a fairly well-worn horror/supernatural concept, but turns the concept around by putting the film in the unique setting of the American civil war. The film and its concept had me hooked for the first fifteen minutes, although my attention began to slip away a bit from that point on once the "enemy" was revealed. Quite frankly, the "enemy" were very hokey, and didn't instill any real fear or suspense into the story. I've seen actors at a horror-themed dinner theatre inspire more terror than what the Union soldiers faced in The Killing Box.

Overall The Killing Box tried to be an interesting war/horror hybrid, but fell short of the mark.

5/10

Odd mix of supernatural and Civil War .............

[merklekranz · 4/10 · 19 April 2010]

The creative initial idea of an unstoppable army of Union and Confederate resurrected dead soldiers, gets trampled under the weight of it's limited budget, heavy handed direction, and chop shop editing. Many scenes are way too dark for interpretation of the action, while quite a bit of lines are garbled and incomprehensible. Character development is rushed and not acceptable. Other than the fresh concept of supernatural - Civil War genre mixing, there is little here to like. Billy Bob Thornton is wasted in a very small role, and Martin Sheen seems to be doing out takes from Gettysburg. "Grey Knight" should be considered more a curiosity than anything else, because it is simply too muddled and cannot be recommended as entertainment. - MERK

The Director's Cut is Much Better

[ab-14 · 23 June 1999]

I wrote the alternate versions section, and I'll add here that the director's cut (GHOST BRIGADE on laserdisc, I don't know if you can get it anywhere else) is much better than the version called THE KILLING BOX, which I've seen on cable.

I don't much care for the shorter version because it tries to make the "good guy" better (by skipping his drug habit) and the "bad guys" worse (by not developing them as characters). All it really does is make the whole thing much more flat and the ending less interesting.

See if you can track down the longer version if the idea of a Civil War horror movie, or even another spin on HEART OF DARKNESS / APOCALYPSE NOW appeals to you. The other version's probably not worth your time.

A pitiful effort by George Hickenlooper

[MBunge · 3/10 · 30 November 2010]

This is a movie about Civil War vampires. Or maybe they were Civil War zombies. The filmmakers never seemed clear on what particular breed of undead horror they were dealing with, but that confusion is about the least wrong thing with Grey Knight.

After Union soldiers are found massacred, some crucified upside down, Captain John Harling (Adrian Pasdar) is assigned to ferret out the forces responsible. Signs point to an infamous Confederate squad known as the Alabama 51st but those men were reported killed, with only their commanding officer Colonel Nehemiah Strayn (Corbin Bernsen) surviving. Harling, a student of Strayn's at West Point, gets his old instructor out of military prison to join the search. Teamed up with the extremely theatrical Colonel Thalman (Ray Wise) and a deaf-mute voodoo priestess named Rebecca (Cynda Williams), Harling and Strayn discover that the people responsible for the Union massacre and other killing sprees of both federal and rebel troops are a group of vampires. Or maybe they're zombies. I'm still not sure. After getting the backstory on the vampire/zombies, the backstory on Strayn and his original squad, the backstory on Harling and Strayn, Strayn sort-of-but-not-really becoming a vampire/zombie and a whole lot of extremely lame camera work, we finally get to the standard climactic battle between the forces of good and evil. Can you figure out who wins?

Grey Knight is thoroughly crappy overall, but the very poor direction of the movie deserves its own notice. Think of the most uninteresting, unimaginative, boring and clichéd images and scenes you've ever seen in any film. You'll recognize all the same stuff here. George Hickenlooper doesn't appear to have had the slightest idea what did and didn't look good on screen when he made this. He uses a wide shot when he should use a close up. He uses a close up when he should use a wide shot. The camera is always either too close or too far away from what's going on and virtually none of the action is ever properly centered. Everything's in focus and you never see a boom mic slip into the shot but other than that, it's like the person directing this had never given any thought to how he was filming his story.

There's also a plethora of bad performances on display here. Virtually every actor, except maybe Martin Sheen, has at least one scene where he goes completely off the rails. Billy Bob Thornton spouts much of his dialog in one of the least professional manners you'll ever witness. Watching him, you'd swear he got his role because he was the prop guy's cousin or something. Adrian Pasdar whispers most of his lines like a guy with a hearing aid that's been turned up way too loud. Cynda Williams has no dialog in the film and just repeats the same glare over and over at various characters. Corbin Bernsen, looking like he's been trapped on a desert island for 3 years, apparently thought adopting a bad Southern drawl was all the acting he needed to do. Matt LeBlanc has no lines and is only on screen for a few seconds as a crucified soldier, but he may have done the best job of anyone in the cast.

There are two other things I have to note. First, the soundtrack of Grey Knight is absolutely, I-can't-believe-what-I'm-hearing horrible. The music played in the opening scenes as the slaughtered Union soldiers are discovered is arrestingly terrible, sounding like a bad rip-off of some of the theme music from Friday the 13th: The Television Series. Second, the vampire/zombies don't have fangs. They don't actually drink blood. In fact, there's nothing that distinguishes them as undead, except that they paint their faces red and white. I think the face paint is supposed to evoke primitive tribalism, but I imagine most people would think they were vampire/zombie clowns. For my part, I thought they resembled nothing so much as the Freebirds when they would paint their faces with the Confederate flag for their matches with the Road Warriors. That's a pro wrestling reference and don't worry, most of today's wrestling fans won't get it either.

The version of this film that I watched was called Grey Knight: The Director's Cut. There's another, blessedly shorter version alternatively titled The Killing Box or Ghost Brigade. But as a rose, by any other name, still smells sweet...this movie, by any name, sucks ass.

It Killed Me.......

[texasjoe48 · 2/10 · 5 January 2006]

I love historical pieces, and this one took what could have been a good premise, and it went south in a hurry. Sorry guys. It was just too weird to follow, or enjoy past the first 20 minutes. The acting wasn't so bad, but the script suffered in the editing. The Civil War has so many interesting TRUE stories on both the Union, and Confederate battlefields. (With brother sometimes fighting brother, and whole families torn apart by the fight.) Also, although slavery was the big issue, the issue of "state's rights," and the Kansas-Nebraska Act tore the south in half. In Texas, many people such as Sam Houston preached against succession from the Union in the Texas Senate. His Governorship was stripped away from him, and he was branded a "Unionist" the rest of his life. Many counties voted against succession, but when the final vote was taken, then militias were raised to meet the call for war. Now there are many stories just right there that would be worth telling, instead of some weird voodoo tale that blames slavery on the south that had a good majority that were against slavery. Churches formed anti-slavery societies called TABOR. So let us try to do better stories worth telling, instead of a bunch of weird mess that stirs up a bunch of hatred, and misunderstanding of a great part of American history...

Low budget to be sure, warehouse stock costumes and state park battlegrounds

[mrfishburger · 4/10 · 13 October 2021]

Lots of celebrities made this movie just to pay the bills. The tv guide channel called it "Lost Brigade", opening credits called it "The Killing Box". Here it's found as "Grey Knight", but the vcr (?) box image shows it as "Ghost Brigade". My guess is that nobody wants to admit involvement.

All that being said, this civil war zombie movie is adequately made for background entertainment while seeing many stars in lesser roles, like watching reruns of Nash Bridges or Macgiver.

No rotten zombie makeovers, just face paint like a Native American, Cajun voodoo mixture.

Ghostly Horrors of the Civil War

[Vomitron_G · 6/10 · 20 March 2010]

The version I saw of this film, was called "The Killing Box" and this film had a whole damn lot of potential, but sadly isn't as great as it could've been. A civil-war movie mixed with a supernatural theme and a most peculiar cast (Adrian Pasdar, Corbin Bernsen, Ray Wise, Billy Bob Thornton, Martin Sheen, David Arquette, Matt LeBlanc,...). It really is a challenge spotting all of them. It's also hard to pinpoint where exactly the movie comes short. The flaws are there, I just can't really pinpoint them. Apparently a lot of the movie ended on the cutting room floor in post-production, so that could explain quite a bit. But there seems to be a director's cut with a much longer running time out there, under the name "Ghost Brigade". In this version the main characters have a lot more depth and should be more interesting. Even the unstoppable ghost brigade should have much more screen time and background-story in this longer version. So someone release this director's cut version on DVD, and I just might pick it up.

Terribly Inept

[denis888 · 1/10 · 2 September 2013]

George Hickenlooper failed most miserably here on all accounts - casting, music, scenery, action, probability, depth and morale. Nothing worked in this mesh-mash of Civil War, thriller, horror flick, erotica, mystical realm exploitation, quasi-psychology, drama and romance. Not a single actor shines here, even such heavyweights as Martin Sheen, Billy Bob Thornton or David Arquette do a very mediocre job here, at least slightly convincing, but generally very disturbing and even embarrassing. The very idea of this ghost brigade immediately slides into sleazy banality and deep clichés start appearing one after another. All those silver bullets, dark scenes, strange dreams, very vapid dialogs and laughable battle scenes make this film a real flop and a bomb. It does not hold, it never works.

Much better than I expected!

[Console_General · 7/10 · 3 January 2005]

I missed the immediate start but too late to see Martin Sheen (The West Wing) in the role of a Union General (Holsworth?), he must have walked straight off the set of Gettysburg (with Jeff Daniels).

Martin is favourite for me and Adrian Pasdar I had never heard of. In fact I thought Adrian was Jeff Fahey (Lawnmower Man) because of the distinct voice and beard. And Corbin Bernsen whom I haven't seen on screen for ages plays his role very, very well.

For a very different horror movie with the Union and Confederate army both being on the same team this is an enjoyable movie. You could do a lot worse than The Killing Box (some sort of tactical field manouver).

Ya might wanna skip on this one, fella...

[paul_haakonsen · 2/10 · 26 November 2020]

Right, well I had expected more of an American Civil War movie, so it was with some disappointment that I came to realize that "Grey Knight" (aka "Ghost Brigade" or "The Killing Box") was laced with supernatural elements to the storyline.

And believe you me, those elements did not make for a good story. In fact, I gave up 1 hour into the foray that is this 1993 movie, out of sheer and utter boredom. I didn't really care an ounce for the storyline, much less the characters in the movie, as they were bland and pointless.

When I saw the movie's cover, and saw that the likes of Martin Sheen, Ray Wise, David Arquette, Billy Bob Thornton, Matt Leblanc and Corbin Bernsen were on the cast list, I assumed that with such names, then of course the movie would have to have some level of decency to it. Yeah, except it didn't actually, and the movie just downright stank.

I will say that "Grey Knight" is definitely in the top 5 of worst American Civil War-based movies that I have had the misfortune of stumbling upon. And if you have any interest in that era, do yourself a great favor and skip on "Grey Knight" like it was last month's carton of milk.

Granted, the costumes and props in the movie were adequate. But they could do only so little for a total lack of interesting storyline and faceless characters.

My rating of "Grey Knight" lands on a more than generous two out of ten stars.

Great civil war tale

[pumaye · 8/10 · 24 May 2004]

This is a rare gem, probably covered by dust on many video retailers shelves. It is a civil war tale mixed by supernatural tones (with a sort of demonic unit, made up by deceased Union and confederate soldiers possessed by a demonic entity that had reached America a couple of century before on a slaver ship), with a very good cast (Adrian Pasdar, Corbin Bernsen and even a cameo by Martin Sheen - that in the same year was General Lee in Turner Television masterpiece Gettysburg) and a script that is better than you may think for such a low budget production. Director Hickenlooper was able to get all the horrors of the real war (in particular during the first minutes of the movie, when you see the atrocity of the Union field hospital) and mix them with the demonic ones. All in all, a very good movie that is, as usual, mostly unknown to the masses of horror fans out there. search it and enjoy.

Civil War Zombies - because the Civil War wasn't already horrifying!

[JoeB131 · 6/10 · 6 January 2013]

Okay, a better movie than I thought. Apparently, this has been released under a bunch of different titles, including "Ghost Brigade", "Lost Brigade" "Killing Box" and the one IMDb prefers to use, "Grey Knight".

The plot is that a Confederate Regiment thought to be destroyed a year earlier is back as undead, and slaughtering Confederate and Union soldiers indiscriminately. A union troop seeks to hunt them down with the help of a captured Confederate Colonel who previously commanded the troops.

Also along with this band of misfits is a mute slave girl who is part of a the tribe that imprisoned the evil spirits to start with.

This movie is made with the help of a lot of Civil War recreation buffs, and overall it looks pretty good. It had a decent budget, and good actors.

There's some choppy editing, and some things the characters do make no sense. (Such as why bring the mute girl along to start with if you don't know she can help? Why handcuff her to the POW Colonel and then forget about doing it again later when he escapes three times?) The battle at the end when they figure out that the zombies can be killed by silver, and they just happen to have a whole wagon-load of silver that was looted by some fleeing Rebels... Wow, that was convenient!

Post-Production Tampering 101

[NoDakTatum · 4/10 · 4 November 2023]

Clocking in at eighty minutes, this weird horror effort shows classic symptoms of post-production tampering, leaving the viewer wanting a whole lot more from an interesting idea. During the Civil War, Union Captain Harling (Adrian Pasdar) is recruited to investigate a series of crucifixions by a renegade band of Confederate soldiers. He enlists the help of his old mentor, now a captured Confederate, Colonel Strayn (Corbin Bernsen). The two join a squad, along with a mute runaway slave girl, the only living witness to the renegade band's attacks, and they all go searching for the criminals. These are not your ordinary Confederates. These men, remnants of Strayn's old brigade, have somehow fallen victim to an African curse. They cannot die, despite all the Union's firepower. However, they also cannot tolerate silver (like sunlight to a vampire), and they cannot cross a body of running water. The rebels soon enlist some Yankees into their ranks, and the motley soldiers go about killing everyone in their path in order to win the spoils of war for themselves.

The first confusing item here is the narration. While it sounds very true to the time, it is being spoken by Pasdar's character. The problem is he sounds just like Martin Sheen, who has one scene early in the film. For a while, I was not sure who was doing the narrating. The film also apes "Silence of the Lambs," as Harling visits Strayn in prison, with a "case file" as it were, for Strayn's advisement. I do not remember that Clarice had a bucket of urine thrown on her by Hannibal Lecter, though. The film seems to want to explore so many more avenues to the story, but never gets to fulfill its wishes. Once in a while, Harling is shown sitting under a tree during camp, sleeve rolled up, and I assumed he was a drug addict shooting up morphine. This weird sequence is never touched upon. Bernsen is also a little too colorful as a Southerner. The film tries to balance the sympathy between the two sides, but this again feels forced and half thought out. As I wrote, Sheen has one scene and quickly disappears. Billy Bob Thornton, David Arquette, and Alexis Arquette also have small roles here. Matt LeBlanc's name appears in the end credits, but for the life of me I cannot remember him in the movie. Hickenlooper's direction is pretty good, he does better with dream sequences than war footage. The original idea is an interesting one, we do not see many Civil War era ghost stories . I am just very disappointed at whoever decided to take the film and "fix" it, then release it. "Ghost Brigade" is not a terrible film, it is actually entertaining, but it plays like what it is: a chopped up attempt to make some money on the straight to video market at the sacrifice of the audience's seeming lack of intelligence. I really hate when Hollywood decides to dumb something down for me, assuming I would not "get it" otherwise. Known under quite a few other titles and running times.

Surprisingly effective Civil War supernatural thriller.

[Infofreak · 21 September 2002]

I didn't expect all that much watching 'The Killing Box', but was surprised at just how involving and interesting this Civil War zombie tale turned out to be. Corbin Bernsen ('L.A. Law') and Adrian Pasdar ('Near Dark') co-star as former friends turned enemies who have to join together to hunt down a mysterious group of renegade soldiers. Ray Wise ('Twin Peaks') is fine as a hard-ass Colonel, and the supporting cast includes Martin Sheen, Billy Bob Thornton and a couple of Arquettes. The film is not without a few flaws, which presumably are from post-production editing (a director's cut under the title 'Ghost Brigade' is apparently available), but overall this is an effective and atmospheric thriller that is well worth tracking down.

A beast attacks soldiers in the civil war

[BAS/NL · 7/10 · 13 September 1998]

What could have been a good horror-movie is infected by a often to weird and confusing story. The acting is good, the filming locations are beautiful. The film also has a special 'supernatural' sphere, the supernatural elements in the movie are in a good way connected to the story. The function of the narrator of the story is good. It's a pity that the story is a such a mess, but watching the movie is certainly recomended.

The perfect soldiers are the ones who cannot be killed.

[Hey_Sweden · 6/10 · 16 August 2021]

In this Civil War tale that takes place in the spring of 1863, Adrian Pasdar stars as a Union captain named John Harling, who must discover who is slaughtering their troops. The culprits actually turn out to be supernatural soldiers who are butchering troops on BOTH sides of the conflict, in the name of "resurrecting" America. Going along on the journey is a Confederate prisoner of war named Nehemiah Strayn (Corbin Bernsen) who was once Harlings' mentor at West Point, until the war broke out and they chose different sides. Also present is a runaway slave, Rebecca (Cynda Williams), who is mute and who may have the key to defeating the antagonists.

On paper, this must have seemed quite intriguing: a strange, murky blend of the Civil War and horror genres, complete with lots of literate dialogue. The film is fairly entertaining if not all that satisfying. The viewer does get plenty of exposition to at least give them some idea of WHY all of this is happening, but the demonic killers are just not that intimidating. Plus, most of the characters are not fleshed out to a great degree. Still, this feature (also known as "Ghost Brigade", "The Lost Brigade", and "The Killing Box") remains something of a curio, with its mix of atmosphere, violence, and surrealism. Unfortunately, night time scenes are too dark for us to see much of the gory mayhem (devised by the boys at KNB). It also has strong echoes of "Apocalypse Now", since Martin Sheen has a cameo as the general who sends Harling on his mission, and the director is "Heart of Darkness" documentarian George Hickenlooper.

The ensemble cast at least does ensure some interest. Pasdar is nicely under-stated as the hero, while Bernsen has one of his best roles (and gives one of his best performances) as the colourful Strayn. Ray Wise is likewise a standout as a jut jawed Union colonel. The supporting cast consists of a number of familiar faces and stars-to-be: Roger Wilson, Jefferson Mays, Billy Bob Thornton, Dean Cameron, David Arquette, Alexis Arquette, Matt LeBlanc, Josh Evans, Peter Sherayko, and Brent Briscoe. Hickenlooper appears on screen as a painter; adding a degree of unreality is the fact that Thomas the drummer boy is actually played by a female, actress A. J. Langer.

This material had some potential, so it might be interesting to see someone take another crack at it (and hopefully be afforded a larger budget than what these filmmakers had to work with).

Monte Hellman was one of the editors.

Six out of 10.

Corman's 'Uncivil' War Vampires

[masibindi · 10/10 · 6 July 2007]

I saw auteur George Hickenlooper's director's cut of this movie under the title "Grey Knight". Spooky, world-class, polished performances delivered by Cynda Williams (tremendous in "One False Move" and an ex-Mrs. Billy Bob Thornton), David Arquette (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 8 Legged Freaks), Roger Wilson (Vampire Recruiter Extraodinaire), Matt LeBlanc ("Monsters: "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bites", "Showdown", "Lost in Space") and Martin Sheen ("The West Wing", "The Departed"), with Adrian Pasdar ("Near Dark", "Desperate Houswives") and Corbin Bersen ("Star Trek: the Next Generation", "Tales from the Hood") at each other's throats. Intelligent treatment, killer script, eerie atmosphere, and eye candy actors. Encore!

Surprisingly enjoyable

[kirachloe · 7/10 · 16 February 2023]

This was well worth the time to watch.

I will admit I am not overly fond of the intro ... but bear with it. Once you get to the meat of the story the script provides a very nice mix of Civil War action without an overbearing amount of the supernatural. Very good acting, with believable and relatable characters.

The script is consistent with the realities of the war without relying on cliches or wasted dramatic interludes. I was also impressed by the locations, directions, and the lack of relying of phony CIG effects ... no need for a bunch of wasted frivolity on something that happened in the simplistic times on the 1800's. Great cast, and balance between the lead roles. Great call on getting Ray Wise, always appreciated his style.

A strange mixture of horror elements that works on most levels

[vampiresan · 15 September 2002]

What at first seems like a civil war flick turns into a reasonably good horror/supernatural film with better than average production values. The strange mix of Vampire folklore, Voodoo and Zombie elements aside, The Killing Box manages to rise above many horror films and put forth a powerful anti slavery message for good measure. Definately recommeneded though unlikely to be found easily except on late night TV.

Zombies in Gettysburg?

[searchanddestroy-1 · 8/10 · 30 September 2022]

I was not expecting at all to see a historical film about American Civil war mixed up with a horror topic. It was very improbable, horror is usually more used on more modern wars, with ghosts and zombies. So this one is a real good surprise. This story could easily been made for Hollywood by a director such as John Mc Tiernan for instance; a topic with a strange resemblance with 13th WARRIOR, though the periods are not the same at all, but the overall melt of history and horror - dark fantasy - can match between two films. The TV frame is maybe not the best option for such a scheme, but I don't regret watching this film. A hit in the face for me.

Worth watching for the performances

[tvcarsd · 9/10 · 28 October 2021]

The plot comes in a distant 2nd or 3rd in this movie, just watching some people run around in the wild, it ends up feeling a lot like a stage act. The uniforms and accents are decently portrayed. Martin Sheen does a great job at narration which adds much needed depth to the events and characters that the weak storyboard fails at. The directing and music isn't bad and at times I found it easy to nod off. But when you consider the general entertainment value instilled in this movie its still good.