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7/10
Not as true as it could be
delanomino_200927 March 2010
Let me start out by saying, this movie was a wonderfully made movie. As said before, there is a bit of overacting, but in all it is a good movie.

My grandfather, Vern Humphrey, worked on this case a great deal.. much more than the movie portrays. When the writers of this movie interviewed the detectives and officers that worked on the case they interviewed Vern Humphrey, and then John Rule. John Rule told the correct events; however, he did not tell the correct people that worked on the case, hence him being the key 'trooper' in this movie. It is sad that the wrong people were credited in this movie, but there is not much anyone can do now.

I wish this movie was more true to life. So many believe that this movie is spot on. A good movie, good actors/actresses, sets. I am pleased with the quality of this movie and encourage those who know nothing about the murder story to watch it. Just be aware of the errors.
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8/10
Sandy Bird's death
cobi6610 October 2006
I'm originally from Council Grove which is in between where Sandy Bird was murdered and Martin Anderson was murdered. I've heard about both cases all of my life and my parents know a lot of the people that were involved. I've been doing research on this story for sometime now and I'm currently doing an article for Emporia State's newspaper. I work with one of the extras in the movie too. I've been out to the bridge a few times and each time I get weird feelings while there. I don't think enough people know the actual story of what happened either. In fact most of the people I know in Emporia say they have heard of the bridge and the ghost stories but as far as knowing what actually happened many have no idea.
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7/10
pretty good
Ajtlawyer27 July 2002
This is a pretty good TV true-crime murder show. Emporia, Kansas minister Tom Bird takes up an affair with his floozy secretary, played by JoBeth Williams. They pray that God will let them be together by getting rid of their spouses for them. When God doesn't cooperate, they decide to give God some help and murder their spouses.

Keith Carradine is state trooper John Rule who investigates the auto "accident" in which Mrs. Bird is killed. He's not a homicide investigator but he knows accidents and is certain that this was no accident. Rule pushes and pushes his investigation and runs into bureaucratic stone walls. His superiors only get interested in re-opening the case when Williams' husband is murdered along a highway.

The acting in this picture is pretty good and look out particularly for John Goodman, who plays a sheriff investigating the second murder, and future Oscar winner Kathy Bates as a reporter. Carradine plays Trooper Rule with a very plain Kansas doggedness---think of perhaps Sheriff Andy Taylor doing a murder investigation but without any humor or bumbling deputy tagging along.

I've looked up info about the real-life case and the movie. The two killers, Anderson and Bird, served very extended prison sentences but were eventually paroled and then released from any parole restrictions. Both were married and Bird is, weirdly enough, a marriage counselor now. Anderson still insists that it was Bird who killed her husband even though he got acquitted of that murder. Even stranger, Anderson's children are very reconciled to her despite her involvement in the murder of their father.

The movie seems to have been as controversial in Emporia as the murders themselves. The movie came out before Bird's trial in the Martin Anderson murder and the investigators in that case didn't want to participate in any movie lest they ruin their case. So the filmmakers pumped up the role and involvement of Trooper Rule to make him a far bigger hero than he was in the real investigation. The town paper's journalist (the Kathy Bates character) later became mayor of Emporia and she said that Rule's role was extremely overblown and that it was actually a confidential informant who got the insider story to the press, not Rule. Over 25 years later, there still seemed to be a lot of resentment about how the movie portrayed the story. A weird side-note, the then Governor of Kansas appeared in the movie but as an extra, someone walking in at the newspaper office.

None of the Emporia churches wanted anything to do with the movie so the exterior and interior scenes of the church were shot in Lawrence, Kansas. The movie does do an excellent job of picking up and depicting the rhythms of small-town Kansas life. Filmed entirely in Kansas locations, Kansas itself becomes a character in the story in much the same way that the character of the state was the back drop of the earlier true-crime movie, "In Cold Blood". Both movies depict cruel murders being committed by sociopaths and being confronted by the virtuous, pious, quietly hard-working small town Kansans.
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Not bad
wolverine77720022 April 2006
I went to college at Emporia State and actually had classes with someone involved with the case. After watching the movie it made it seem more real and close to home. I would recommend it to those who think all religious people are perfect. This one goes to show even the mighty can fall. The city still has not gotten over the popularity and close knit ties that are still there in Emporia. The movie was a sore spot to a lot of people and to mention anything about the case will draw a lot of undue attention. The places are real and accurate except for the offices where the Sheriff Dept is. I would recommend this movie because it is accurate to a point and very real and really happened.
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10/10
"Endureth All Things, Lorna"
Lechuguilla26 April 2016
One of the best TV movies ever made, this riveting film tells the true-life story of the murder of a preacher's wife in rural Kansas in the early 1980s.

In one long flashback that covers the year before the wife's death in a presumed accidental traffic mishap, the script meticulously evolves the sordid relations leading up to the tragedy and the suspicion of one highway patrolman that this was no accident. In time, an ongoing tangle of lurid involvement between the preacher and his attractive church secretary leads others to the same conclusion.

As the truth of a conspiracy starts to emerge and with law enforcement closing in, the confidently smug pastor, Tom Bird (Terry Kinney) reassures his panicky co-conspirator, Lorna (JoBeth Williams) that everything will be okay. "Endureth all things, Lorna ... didn't God test Abraham in the same way?" Of course, his naïve parishioners stand by their man, no matter what.

On-location filming in Kansas adds to the realism, as does court transcripts of some dialogue. Cinematography, production design, casting, and acting are all high quality. Editing is especially impressive. Yes, it's a long film, but the complex story involves conspiracy, murder, hit men, adultery, and possible incompetence in public office.

The subject matter is unusual in that we don't normally think of a preacher as a murderer. That only happens in fictional stories. Yet the unbelievable is precisely what makes this film so mesmerizing. The events really happened. For that reason alone "Murder Ordained" is worth watching.
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6/10
By their deeds shall ye know them.
rmax30482326 October 2003
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SPOILERS.

A Biblical moral tale. Meaning it has adultery, blasphemy, murder, hypocrisy, money, and outright michigas. It could have been dreamed up by Cecil B. DeMille while on mushrooms except that it really happened.

The story is fundamental so I'll just describe it in passing. Jo Beth Williams is unhappily married to a loud but affable drunk. The local pastor, Terry Kinney, is unhappily married to a star college student who's got money. Williams is bored and Kinney is bored. She comes on to him and he throws down the ten commandments. In fact, at the first opportunity, he throws HER on the office desk. Thereafter they very indiscreetly hold hands in public, disappear for whole afternoons together, and rut in seedy motels like two razorbacks in heat.

This is Emporia, Kansas, a small town in which everybody soon begins to suspect what's going on, except Williams' dull ox of a husband and Kinney's worried but somewhat witless wife. Upshot: At Williams' prompting, Kinney offs his wife by staging the world's clumsiest imitation of a traffic accident.

A bit of insurance money rolls in, enough to make Kinney's eyes glow with pleasure but not enough to satisfy the more practical Willaims. "Is five thousand enough?" she asks winsomely while he grins and blathers on about how this is just "seed money" for the new religious counseling center he plans to build. (Her religiosity bears about the same relationship to the rest of her character as the earth's biosphere does to the rest of our planet. The biosphere has best been described as "a green smear.")

Well, the truth is, that staged accident doesn't look more than usually like a typical traffic accident to the practiced eye of Highway Trooper Keith Carradine. He begins to question his findings at the scene. Just for instance, if she was in her car when it rolled down an embankment and turned over in the river before her body was flung out, then what is a big splotch of the wife's blood doing five feet up on a tree trunk in the wrong place?

The thick plottens. So much for Kinney's trusting wife. But what about Williams' dull husband? They get a middleman to stage a fake robbery on the side of a highway and hubby gets plugged in the head three or four times. Williams claims to have pulled off the highway because she was nauseated and had to ralph. But she takes the car keys with her, crawls far off the pavement, and calls to her husband to help her find the keys. And a masked man appears out of nowhere and just shoots him. It all looks suspicious to John Goodman, another state cop.

There are a series of foul ups and the investigation seems to be getting nowhere, to the extent that it hasn't been buried completely. This frustrates Carradine who continues to plug away at the case. His persistence in turn irritates the state bureau of investigation who understandably don't want to turn out looking like quasi-moronic dolts for having done nothing, in case these incidents turn out to be homicides.

Well, they do so turn out. The hired assassin rolls on the preacher and his floozy. The preacher is convicted of conspiracy to murder Williams' husband, and he goes to jail. Then, upon the further gathering of evidence, they try him for his wife's murder and he's convicted of that too.

That amounts to a lot of time in the slams for him, as far as Williams is concerned. She has proved herself to be a thoroughly impatient, bored, nymphomaniacal housewife given to taking joint baths with local Romeos. Besides, collecting insurance is out of the question after Kinney's conviction. The best scene in the movie is when she attends church again at the urging of her imprisoned ex-lover and makes eye contact with some guy singing in the chorus. She practically radiates willingness as she smiles at the poor guy, tears forming in her eyes, begging for spiritual guidance and a vigorous roll in the hay. I couldn't stop laughing.

In fact, Williams is pretty good. She demonstrates a fine range of control here, sending out all sorts of mixed and unmixed signals. Kinney is good too. He's pale and blonde, like William Hurt in "Body Heat," and looks innocent. (Compared to Williams, he's a babe in the woods.) But his eyes are very close together and they are lighted so that they appear shadowed. It's as if they were an expression of the tragic flaw he's got going for him, like Coriolanus' ambition.

The whole production is professionally done. Everyone, the director included, seems to know what he or she is doing. It's a longie, of course, but it doesn't drag, as it so easily might have had we been given more quality time with the children of the various families. Christmas celebrations, kids crying and needing to be comforted and reassured, hugs galore -- the sort of thing that might make you too pull off the road and boot in the grass. Not that family life is ignored. Just that it keeps its proper place and is never a distraction, let alone a substitute, for this generic tale of unlikely deeds on the part of unlikely people.
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9/10
Pretty close to fact!
charlenelv4 December 2005
I spent ten years working at the correctional facility where both Tom Bird and Lorna Anderson did their time. Lorna was transferred when the female inmates were all sent to Topeka, but Tom Bird remained at Lansing Correctional Facility for his entire incarceration. The resemblance between the real Tom Bird and the actor was amazing. However, the children, especially the youngest girl could have been related. I remember one time feeling especially bad when the children flew in from another state to visit their father, I was working the visiting room at the time, and saw that the movie was playing on a local channel about the time the kids probably got to their motel. They would visit their father for 5 days in a row since they were so far away. The actors that played Tom Bird's parents were uncanny in their looks and actions as well. I suppose this did much to explain my high marks for the movie. I have seen many docu-dramas depend on sensationalism, but this one played it close to the vest, and really did get the point across about the relationship between the two. Unfortunately the movie was made before Lorna Anderson was convicted of her husband's death or before Tom Bird re-married. He was paroled just last year. I am hopeful there will be no cause to make a sequel about the murder of yet another Sandra Bird. Keith Carradine and Kathy Bates were excellent as well in the movie. Their performance was every bit as good as a huge production rather than a made for TV movie. They should all be commended for such good work. It is just sad that no studio will release this excellent work on DVD and the only way to see it is to catch it on late night TV.
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9/10
This movie, I believe is true
terry439716 November 2006
I think this movie is excellent. I have followed this case for many years now and I have spoken to Dave Racer thru e-mail who wrote the book about this case and he was strongly trying to get me to see the other side. I read the book, I have seen the movie and I still feel the movie was accurate. I often wondered what the trooper, John Rule thought of the book caged bird and I just finished reading a newspaper article from 2004 that stated he did in fact read the book and he said he was even more convinced of what he believed to have happened. I warred with myself for years over Tom Bird's guilt or innocence and I personally believe he was somehow involved if not directly. The movie is dramatized in places but I think anybody can tell by watching it, that some places are speculation and not fact but I think it was pretty darn accurate even with the dramatization.
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1/10
Tom Bird is innocent!
Skillman8519 December 2008
He was released. He is not guilty of this crime. It was his "girlfriend". This movie twisted the facts way out of line with what really happened. What happened here is a terrible tragedy, for the murder victims and the victim of false imprisonment. This man served 20 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. While in prison, Tom established marriage counseling for inmates and their spouses, coordinated a fund-raiser for the Ronald McDonald House, led Bible studies and helped establish a half-way house for inmates' spouses. If you want to know the true story, read the book, Caged Bird by Dave Racer. Tom Bird and Dave Racer have also co-authored a book, "In the Shadow of Joseph," which was released June 7 2004. Kothe said the book features 27 letters from Bird discussing his daily life in prison.
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10/10
For anyone that is interested...
nonexistant_0818 February 2008
I know Tom Bird personally, he has been going to my church since he got out on parole. It came as a shock to me that we had a convicted murderer in my church when i found out in early high school. I don't know about Lorna, but Tom currently works at a catering business owned by a couple at church. He and his wife were also teaching the Sunday school class for high schoolers, i haven't been for a while so i don't know if they are still doing that or not. His wife is also the principal of the private school at the church. It is up to you to decide if he is innocent or guilty, and i don't have all the information, i haven't even read the whole book or seen the movie, but he is a very very weird man and i would not doubt he was guilty. He gave me the creeps from the very first time i met him, even before i realized who he was. It is some pretty freaky stuff to have a felon in your church.
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5/10
A long languid affair with slow moving characters and plot
qneill1 March 1999
An okay movie for a long afternoon. If you can, record it and fast forward through the slower parts. JoBeth Williams puts on a credible performance. The characters themselves are sometimes exasperatingly imprudent and reckless.

This movie has the nutritional value of a big bag of popcorn - it starts out nice and buttery, but it's too filling, not very nutritional, and leaves lots of popcorn hulls in your teeth.
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Movie is so true to life
mkr-112 July 2003
This movie, I feel, is so true to life. It is one of those movies that grips you so deeply that is stays with you long after you have seen the movie. I keep wanting new information on the real people who committed this crime and I feel a movie that causes someone to do that is excellent. I thought some of the acting in it was a little over done, but all in all I think this movie deserves a 10 rating.
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10/10
A Christian's point of view
pchad213 April 2006
As a Christian, I found this movie's portrayal of a fallen pastor quite convincing. When the opening says that it was based upon a true incident, I want to really know more, and how much of this movie has been embellished. Temptation is all around us, and it has been around us long before James Baker and Jimmy Swaggart. This makes the long life and ministry of the Reverend Billy Graham so much more marvelous. Imagine the temptations that man has had placed before him for over 50 years of public ministry around the world. I know that his prayer life must be powerful. I felt that this was one of Keith Carradine's best movies, and the investigation part of the film was excellent. JoBeth Williams was so seductive in her role. It was great to see future Acadamy Award winner Kathy Bates. Great movie, great plot, great acting--sad story. Christians should remember one thing: If Satan had no problem tempting the Lord (3 times!), why we're just a "piece of cake" to him. We need a powerful prayer life.
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10/10
Good story
drruley17 March 2005
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For those of you curious still

John and Loraine Rule are still happily married, and both retired.

Tom Bird and Lorna are both on parole now. Feel free to do an internet search. I believe Tom is a family therapist. Go figure.

There was a book written "Caged Bird" I think. John Rule read it, "I am even more convinced he is guilty now" Everyone needs a cause though and I guess Tom Bird was theirs. Good luck to them, we was trust once before. Did not work out too well for Sandra.

Jason Rule "the youngest son"

And no, the part with the window never happened.
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10/10
This movie grabs hold of you and will not let go. Very good Movie!!!
alley-516 September 2000
I think this is one of the best movies I have ever seen. It keeps you glued to the Tv the whole time and hating any interruptions. It is well made and I think it is even more fascinating just how it seems to stick in a person's mind. Alot of people on the internet have become so involved with the real life case as a result of this movie, that they are constantly looking for new information on this case. This movie literally makes you hate to see it end and I love watching it over and over again.
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8/10
Good made-for-TV crime movie
bmks29 May 2005
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This is one of the better made-for-TV movies about a true life crime. Yes, it is predictable, but it is a good story. I have it on VHS and am hoping that soon it will be put out on DVD.

Since the movie was made, Tom Bird has been released on parole (in 2004) but Lorna has NOT (even though another review says otherwise). Here is a link to her online inmate record: http://docnet.dc.state.ks.us/kasper2/offender.asp?id=14525 I believe I read that she will be released on parole in Nov. 2005 or 2006.

(I am happy to have read that the Rules are still happily married). I would love to hear how well the children of the Birds and the Andersons are doing. I hope that they have done well in spite of what has happened in life.

Bonnie
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FOR LOVE AND MONEY - SPOILERS
MISSMOOHERSELF28 April 2003
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Married minister Tom Bird, the father of 3 children becomes attracted to and has an affair with Lorna Anderson, the local Jezebel, herself married and the mother of 4 (including a set of twins) girls. At first, Tom hires her to be his secretary, knowing her husband is a drunk and abusive. But then, one thing leads to another and Tom and Lorna begin a torrid affair. Meanwhile, Sandy Bird, Tom's wife, is a workaholic, seeming to care more for her career than her family and Martin, Lorna's husband, is an abusive alcoholic. To solve their problems, Tom and Lorna figure they could kill their spouses and be together with their 7 children. The crimes would have been perfect had it not been for the absolute determination of traffic officer John Rule, who suspects Mrs. Bird's automobile accident was anything but. Bird was convicted of conspiring to kill Lorna's husband and eventually was found guilty of murdering his wife. He beat her almost to unconsciousness, pushed her over the bridge until she dropped into the water and then put her body into the car and rolled the car off the bridge. What a vicious way to murder the mother of his children!

This is an excellent movie and one I've seen many, many times. JoBeth Williams as Lorna and Terry Kinney as Pastor Tom Bird are particularly well-acted. Ms. Williams' performance reveals the immature, promiscuous needy woman behind Lorna and Mr. Kinney's performance shows the hypocricy and pride hidden just beneath the veneer of the good pastor. It also shows the transformation from a wholesome, excellent minister to a greedy, prideful conniving man.

The only drawback is that, since it was made in 1987, the same year Lorna was eligible for parole, we have no idea of what has happened to the cast of characters. Tom is in jail and their children are living with their uncle but what about Lorna? Is she still married to the choir singer she met? Are John and Lorraine Rule still together? How are the Bird children doing today - 20 years after their mother's murder? Perhaps this movie isn't the place to find the answers to those questions but I still am curious about this.
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9/10
Well-developed main characters great acting
nyobatusa13 January 2020
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Such a delight watching this movie, that helps you understand the motive and reasoning of the main characters the deadly couple placating themselves with 'god's approval' and entitlement, selfish and self-indulgent individuals meet at last and their legal spouses start dropping like flies. To a great suprise the pastor's dumb flock wasnt a deterrant to stop the justice taking place. The pastor was surprised again when his parter in crime dropped him like a potato for a bigger and better deal. Not a surprise to anyone watching. Greatly recommended to watch this movie, especially because of great acting over all with a bonus of having the lovely and super talented Kathy Bates.
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10/10
Really Good
erotikissscrewd8 August 2022
Great acting of principle characters played by Jobeth Williams and Keith Carradine. A lot actors from the day. Good story about an actual crime. If that trooper didn't feel hinkie that case may never have been solved. Its truly a sad case.
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10/10
A Bird in the Hand is a Bird to Beware!
JohnHowardReid3 November 2015
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Although it runs no less than 185 minutes, this made-for-TV drama really holds the attention and never let's go of the tension from start to finish. Partly this is due to the evil fascination of the real-life story itself, partly to the superb acting of an absolutely faultless cast, and partly to brilliant writing and direction by Emmy award- winning TV specialist Mike Robe (who has, to date, never worked in any other medium but television). I could run through the entire cast, giving ticks here, there and everywhere – the courtroom exchanges and characters are absolutely brilliant – but, like almost everyone else, I fasten my attention on the brilliant performance of Terry Kinney who, despite the fact that he's listed way down the cast list is actually the screenplay's principal character, the real-life Pastor Bird, a charismatic but totally evil preacher. Available on a superb RAAM DVD.
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