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7/10
"Anything is possible"
sveinpa20 July 2011
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I find Detruire dit-elle to lack much of the quality of great films directed by Duras, like Nathalie Granger and India song, but still think it interesting enough to see some times and write a few words about. Perhaps it is its more static feel, stressing a little bit too much that this is a play we are watching, that stops it from being a true cinematic experience. The current print is not very good either, but then the cinematography is also no more than adequate, as if it was a production for TV.

We are presented with a vast hotel and its garden with desolate chairs spread around. There is also a tennis court. Around the garden is the wood, which we only see from a distance but still hear its birds. The entire film consists of conversations between four people, five in the final scenes. Sometimes they talk right outside the hotel, sometimes right inside it. Of the interiors of the deserted hotel we do not see much, and of the surroundings nothing although we are told that there is a beautiful spot nearby. Not even the characters manage to see the spot. They all seem to be waiting or in desire of something, as so are we. This may produce some discontent. We are always denied any sort of visual pleasure, except for watching the characters speak. So what remains to get our attention is the rather complex dialogue, both off screen and on screen. What of it?

It seems to me that the discussions all circle around a game of storytelling. As in India Song, there are first two women commenting the "action" off screen. After a while, when the women are on screen, we hear the men comment. This puts the on screen dialogue in a sort of paranoid position, it is constantly overheard by the off screen voices. The men may speak about love, the women may speak about fear but all the time they are making up little stories for themselves, and for us. It seems that they are waiting also for something terrible, a destruction of sorts, to be brought about by the young. Well then, anything to pass the time. What the stories are about may not be of much interest but the way they go about telling them is.

The two men, both "german Jews"(when is this taking place?), are literary inclined, Stein is, in his own words, "in the process of becoming a writer", and Max Thor is a professor in French, also, according to his young wife Alissa, in a similar writing process. The two starts a strange cooperation: We are told by one of the off screen voices that "Max Thor writes what Stein watches". But we do not see this. So what do we trust, our eyes or our ears? Neither I guess but this is the kind of game I find interesting. We can say "this is not really happening" or "I do not believe what I hear or what I see" but the film is still there. If we play the game we have to see it. It gets a little cruel perhaps, especially towards the older, nervous Elizabeth who is waiting for her man, but she does not seem to mind; in fact she likes it. And I like it too. I like the way the rhythm is slowly working, never cutting scenes too fast but letting the characters rather soft and hesitant voices take effect. They never shout. These may be worried people but the way they worry is rather pleasant to witness, if I may say so.

There are also for our entertainment some, if rather basic, tricks with mirrors and with cards along that way that almost elevates the play into a film of sorts: When points of view shift, the stage at least is benefited by multiple ways of seeing. But mostly it is the talking that does it. Multiple talking, perhaps, but handled with great taste. From the little I have read about the films of Duras, it is the priority of the sound that is most discussed. The way it often is out of synch with what we see. Here there is not any sounds present which we cannot locate by what we see, just the birds and sound of the men playing tennis, but the sound of the voices still does their tricks with us. I find I listen to the voices the way I often, lazy, listen to music, as a sensory experience, without thinking too much about what I hear. The contrast for example between the whispering, lush voice of Alissa, playfully courting Stein; "Stein, mon amour" and his dry, matter of fact response, I find both hilarious and heartfelt, as if they are only playing, but that the playing of it makes it real.

The play gets a little out of hand when Elizabeth's husband Bernard arrives, as he is at first clearly unable to play by the "rules"; he is an alien figure in the play. When Alissa says that they have been very interested in his wife, he first gets upset but then when he learns that the interest was purely "for literary reasons", he is completely bewildered. He claims he does not read novels anymore, because they have ceased to be "stories". He is clearly the odd man out. And when Alissa simply says "Destroy", he is completely lost. But when Stein repeats "She said 'destroy'", Bernard looks like he suddenly is accepting the play, as he mutters "Anything is possible", says he wants to stay but then takes his wife and leaves.

And? The end is dark and surprising. Not to be told, so see (hear) for yourself.
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6/10
She Said, Destroy.
morrison-dylan-fan24 June 2018
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Nearing the end of ICM's best of 1969 movie poll,I took a look at titles which I may have overlooked for viewing. Becoming aware of her being one of the few female film makers of the Left Bank/French New Wave after seeing the superb Hiroshima Mon Amour,I was intrigued to find she had made a film in '69,which led to me finding out what Marguerite Duras asks to destroy.

View on the film:

Made for TV, writer/director Marguerite Duras & cinematographer Jean Penzer offer little sign of commercial limitations being placed, with the locations being coated in stark minimalism,barely lit by the thick lines of black shadows. Bringing her own stage show to screen, Duras keeps everything firmly stage-bound via the camera being firmly placed down for minutes at a time,which does allow for an intriguing atmosphere to build of see "live" performances. Left in limbo by the single location of a hotel and the grounds around it, Michael Lonsdale and Daniel Gélin give very good performances as Stein and Alione,with them each balancing between their characters holding secrets back,and a mystified look over the static hold of the hotel,and over what she has asked to be destroyed.
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10/10
Cold summer
I had some idea that this was a Marguerite Duras version of Last Year in Marienbad early on in the film. After all the characters we see are in an existential limbo, a comfort zone, staying in a hotel in the countryside that seems to be outside things somehow. There is the Marienbad feel initially that the characters need to break out by a supreme effort, that they need to have the will to love. They are perhaps Beckettian slouches, avoiding the local forest although they constantly resolve to go there; why go into the forest when we can stay in the park they reason. There definitely is that going on but I think so much more as well.

Further into the film you can start to feel similarities to David Cronenberg's wonderful early movie Stereo (incidentally released in the same year). In that movie volunteers in a blank deserted modernist university have brain surgery to remove their ability to speak but increase their power for telepathy. Some characters in the experiment are dominant and control the others, some resist the melding, but a group identity is formed, hideously psychosexual. In this movie you feel that the inhabitants of the hotel are undergoing the same process. Stein is the master, Alissa his Stradivarius, Elisabeth a psychological weakling, becoming a golem, Max Thor Stein's henchman. At one point Elisabeth's husband arrives and all four of the main characters refer to themselves as German Jews, Stein is in them all. Amongst many merging references is the beautiful line that Stein delivers on the subject of Max and Alissa sleeping together every night, "one day they'll find the two of you shapeless, clotted like tar" The location to go into more detail is a hotel absent of staff, absent of the outside. There is a beautiful grove outside where white sun-loungers are thinly spaced out on the daisy-strewn grass, where white cast-iron chairs with backs made of symmetrical curlicues poise. Max and Stein have a conversation at the start of the movie, "What season is it?" "Cold Summer". That sums up the feel of the place. Another point is that there are no children, this is actually reminiscent of another masterpiece Jens Lien's 2006 movie The Bothersome Man, where the lack is the difference between a world with flavour and no flavour.

After a while the movie becomes very stylised, the shots are static and really close up, the scenes conversational. It took me a little while to realise that what's going on is that I was becoming a hotel resident, being enveloped by the scenes, joining the group. The effect is quite overpowering, I felt like reaching out and touching Max's blazer, like kissing Alissa (I have never felt that way in a movie). During a card game I actually felt like I was holding a hand.

Alissa (Nicole Hiss) is so strange, described as having the hair of a child, with a bearing both uncertain and yet sure at the same time, like a Delphic Pythoness. A tactile women who in a key scene has parted lips through which no words emit.

The ending has more than a hint of Maya Deren's Meshes of the Afternoon (1943). It is no coincidence that this film raises the spectre of so many others brilliant ones.

To keep the mood going after the film is over I recommend playing Charles Ives' "The Unanswered Question".

This played to a very sparse audience at the Institut Francais' Cine Lumiere in London on 25 October 2010.
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10/10
Destroy, She Said
TemporaryOne-120 February 2017
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Book and film: Remains of language. Fragments of memory. Residue of oblivion. Imitation of thought.

Mixed together dialogue from film and words from novella.

Destroy, she said. Silence. Bay windows are open. Overcast. Gone to sleep again. Silence Increasing heat. Sunshine. Brilliant. Seventh Day. Creation done. Silence. About to be destroyed. Silence. Voices echoing. Silence. Stein. Silence. Stone. Neon light. Drained of colour. Lurid lamp glow of last light. Chairs. Empty. Arranged face-to face. Empty. Silence. Voice sharp, almost brutal. Silence. Empty Dining room. Dark. Right through your head and heart. Gleams of light. Day in the garden. Sun shines steadily. Alione. Elisabeth Alione. Pretending. To read. To sleep. Cry out. In the mind. And then there's the forest. Now, suddenly, she looks only at the forest. Yes. Is it dangerous? Yes. How did you know? Elisabeth Alione. Silence. Torn. Bloody. Yes. The voice that just spoke goes echoing through the hotel grounds Thoughts wear one out. Shuts the book. In the empty hotel, who to write to. Two mirrors reflect the setting sun. They look at each other in silence. No one reacts. Silence. Alissa knows, but what does she know. Total Destruction Elisabeth Alione. Fear comes into her eyes. Silence. Nothing. Dusk in the grounds. Forest. Tremble. It's too late. To kill you. The tennis courts are empty. Silence. I think I'm going to lose. You're insane. Silence. Nothing. Leucate. Leucate. Leucate. Time is not important. Trembling uncertainty. I didn't think anything. Elisabeth Alione. I must have known and forgot. It didn't surprise me. It's nothing You don't know anything? Nothing. What does he do? Nothing. Choose. She says nothing? I wish I could wake up.

We've lost the game. Were we really playing? I don't really know. Who knows? I don't really know myself. You must throw it away. You must throw away the book. What will become of you? Nothing. What's the matter? Disgust.

When boredom takes a certain form, when it's become part of a timetable, say, you don't notice it. And if you don't notice it, don't give it a name, it can take some curious turns.

Alissa mimicking/reciting Elisabeth Alione: I'm afraid, afraid of being abandoned, afraid of the future, afraid of loving, of violence, of numbers, of the unknown, of hunger, of poverty, of the truth

Elisabeth Alione - You've just arrived. Alissa - No, I've been here three days. Elisabeth Alione - Really? Alissa - We're quite close to one another in the dining room.

Elisabeth Alione - Do you go into the forest? Alissa - Oh no. Not on my own. Elisabeth Alione - Have you seen it? Alissa - Not yet. I've only just arrived. I've only been here three days.

He's always seem there, yes, either in the grounds, or the dining room, or in the corridors, yes, always, or in the road that runs by the hotel, round the tennis courts, at night, in the daytime, wandering round and round, round and round, alone.

Is it coming from the forest? Yes, from the forest. This time, majestically loud. What pain. What immense pain. How difficult it is. It has so far to travel, so many barriers to get through. It has to fell trees, knock down walls. But here it is. Nothing more to worry about. Yes, here it is.

Fragments of memory. Residue of oblivion. Remains of language. Imitation of thought.

tennis balls - thoughts, emotions, pulse - ping in a liquid dusk, a grey lake, the unconscious, the subconscious, the mind.

tennis - thoughts/emotions hit back and forth and back and forth and back and forth

tennis not allowed while nap time - thought battles not allowed while sleeping, time to rest mind

tennis courts - cages of mind, limitations of the mind.

People always looking at tennis courts. Even when they're empty. Even when it's raining. They do it mechanically. People chewing in thoughts non-stop. Thoughts wear one out.

forest - memory, world of thoughts/emotions, the world itself, the future, horrors of the world, limitations, babel, etc, total mental holocaust, total destruction

Structure torn to pieces, communication torn to pieces, destruction is deconstruction which is necessary for revolution and reconstitution of communication

Absence of camera eye, Durassian gliding from one point of view to another, no primacy of one character over another, all characters the same, interchangeable, camera eye assumes multiple points of view, no fixed role, when point of view shifts sensorial disequilibrium, rare technique

background of absence representing the mind's absence, the mind already in the void

Leucate = Rock of Leucade = jump off the rock and free yourself from love

Leucos - bright; brilliant; white; clear; pale; mineral found in volcanic rock

Elisabeth Alione, ready to explode

Elisabeth Alione. "Alione" sounds like "All alone".

Elisabeth Alione. Lacking the Lion (a = lacking, lione= lion), the vitality, the bravery, the ferocity, courage, to revolt.

Loud crashing and harmonious burst of music through the forest is Elisabeth Alione smashing through the void and Waking Up, jumping off the rock and freeing herself from her loveless marital life, an act of divorce or an act of suicide

Elisabeth = Alissa, Elisabeth = replaying her past, Alissa is herself, Stein the doctor-lover, Max her husband

Alissa also Elisabeth's daughter - Elisabeth Alione's daughter Anita is rude and awkward doesn't want to work, sounds just like Alissa

Alissa shifts from being herself to being Elisabeth to being Elisabeth's daughter

We all feel the same. All four of us.

It's too late. For what? To kill you.

Because she's already metaphorically killed herself.

The earth trembled.

Destroy. What did she say? She said, Destroy. Destroy, She said. Nothing. Silence. The bay windows are shut.
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